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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 27, 2007, 2:19 pm PDT

Obsessive Jeffrey

I am happy that Dr. Phil offered Jennifer a partner and promised to get her the help and resources she needs.  I understand Dr. Phil's explanation as to why he asked Jennifer to wait before she files for divorce, but I honestly feel that Jeffrey is beyond help.  He will need years of therapy and proper medication, but his behavior is extreme and I fear for Jennifer's life and her the lives of her children.  Nothing she has done justifies the evil and sick things he has done.  His behavior I am sure did not just start with her infidelity, these are deep rooted psychosis.  No matter how much intense therapy he gets, as long as he is in her life he will be obsessed!  Dr. Phil, you better keep a close eye on this one!
 
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April 27, 2007, 2:19 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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The  young woman with the  obsessive husband needs so get away from him ASAP.  Someone like that could snap and kill her.  He seems like a dangerous and insane person to me.
I totally agree!!!!
 
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April 27, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

Jennifer

To all you people that have harsh words for Jennifer:

 

Listen up, she married Jeffrey when she was 19 years old.  He started his controlling behavior from day one.  It is very subtle, and seems sweet on the surface.  As the years go on, it builds into this horrible situation.  For all of you, men and women, who think women like to be mentally or physically abused you are wrong and you are stupid for even thinking that.  Abuse doesn't happen overnight.  Also, normally after the abuse there is a "honeymoon period" where the husband is overly nice and concerned, lulling the wife into a false sense of security.  I fear for Jennifer's safe.  I watched this program with my husband who felt the same way as I did.  Men that are caring and kind could see right through that freak. 

 

I have to say I am so angry that people today still think that a battered woman (emotionally or physically) likes it.  You are so wrong.   My mother was physically and mentally abused throughout her 12 year marriage.  She divorced my dad when divorce was not really acceptable.  She had nowhere to turn, there were no shelters back then.  He through me across the room when I stopped him from hitting her, so you have no idea what the wife and the children go through in an abusive household.  I saw my mother bleeding from the forehead (because he threw a glass at her), he strangled her, shot at her with a gun, tried to suffocate her, so please at no time did my mother enjoy any of it.  He threatened to kill her and take me and my sister.

 

So in the future, shut up unless you understand the situation of abuse.  My prayers are for Jennifer and her children, I hope they get out.

 

Terri

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

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I think everybody is forgetting the reason this man has become more and more obsessive over the years!  SHE IS A CHEATER!  I understand that this man has gone WAY TOO FAR, but why isn't he getting the help he came for?  He has been completely honest the entire time and he is repeatedly saying, "I want to stop."  I am beginning to feel sorry for him. Why do we have to slam him down to the ground when he obviously knows how stupid and crazy he is?  He is the one that wrote the letter to get help...for what? To be put down even more?

 

Again, I am not saying that what he is doing is right. He's crazy! I just don't understand why she is becoming the only victim.


Needless to say, I lost all respect for her when I found out that she had been cheating. They should have been divorced years ago!  He should have divorced her for cheating.

Maybe she's a cheater, but first and foremost, she's an emotionally abused woman who married a mentally ill man at the age of 19.  We have no idea of what he may have put her through as she was coming into adulthood.  I'd guess he started isolating her immediately.  I think that's why the Dr didn't "take her inventory".  No point right now; she needs to get away and get ongoing therapy.  People in her situation can make HORRIBLE decisions.  I know, because I did, too - it's a sick cycle.  You want "out" in whatever way you can get because you feel so bad, and it just makes things worse, and you feel worse about yourself, and he makes you feel worse, and you take another opportunity for anything, and so on and so forth.

 

He doesn't want help so much as he wants to keep his wife.  Dr Phil already recognizes how sick this guy is.  I think the Dr evaluated just how sick this guy is with his hard-hitting questions, and now his goal is to separate them and get this guy help before he completely looses it and hurts her, the kids and himself.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

That is what I am trying to say

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I agree that this man is obsessive but he has been truthful throughout the show about want he has and has not done and has been asking for help. Instead of trying to help him Dr. Phil just keeps trying to bury him and destroy him further. Does everyone have selective hearing? For instance they keep harping on him locking her in the basement. If you listened to the conversation closely you would realize he did not lock her in the basement the way it sounds. They were both in a finished basement when she went off and started screaming at him and hit him, he ran past her up the stairs and held the door for a minute to keep the argument from the kids. He did not lock the door the way Dr. Phil is letting it sound. They both agree that in 11 years he has NEVER physically abused her. He is obsessive because from the first year when he started watching her he discovered she was cheating and she has been cheating and acting improperly with other men, strangers, co-workers and anyone else she can ever since. All the surveillance he has done keeps showing proof of infidelity. He is in love with someone who constantly cheats on him and has become obsessed as a result. Most people including Dr. Phil are not acknowledging this. I agree they should split up because the damage is too much. He will never trust her even though he loves her and she will never be faithful to him or anyone else because that is who she is. His actions are a consequence of her unfaithful and improper behavior and it has damaged the entire family. Open your ears and eyes and see that it took both of them to get to this point and she is NOT innocent.

I hear ya.  I have been trying to write this since day one, but for some reason my messages have not been displayed!!!
 
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April 27, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

Obsessive Love show

Hi, I'm new to the board as I'm usually at work when its on, but I caught the last two day on Jennifer and Jeff .  

 

Before the break preceding Dr. Phil's final comments, I saw her reach out to Jeff, touch his arm and ask him if he was ok..........that is something I will keep with me for a long long time and I wish I could personally thank her for that. .  She is a sweet woman and I wish her the best.

 

Susie H.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

Oops!

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You are just like Jeffrey--insecure, scared, and abusive.

Bottom line, no matter what a woman does---no matter what--they do not deserve to be treated like a DOG.  If you are unhappy, just walk.  Walk away with your self-dignity and respect still intact.  Believe me, if the woman was doing all these terrible things in the marriage, it will come out later in some other way.  At least the children will have ONE parent that is not acting crazy. 

 

I think you meant to respond to bestinlife instead of me.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

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this guy is a wimp.

the fact that he has to abuse girls in any way to feel in control is disgusting.

 

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:22 pm PDT

Help for Jeffrey is important no matter what

I wish you all the best with this man, Dr. Phil.  Him gaining control over his destructive emotions will be important no matter what happens in his marriage.  If they stay married (of which I am doubtful - Jennifer looked as if he's killed any love she had for him) his getting help will make him a better father toward his 3 children.  And if they divorce, he will be a good co-parent with Jennifer.  The last thing Jennifer needs is to worry about what is happening to her children on the weekends Jeffrey has them.  She doesn't need a phone call from 5 states away saying he has the children and she will never see them again.  The one negative thing I kept hearing Jeffrey say was "I want to be married and have a family".  I didn't hear him say "I want to be married to Jennifer and I want these children."  That bothered me very much...because I've been there...under the control of a man...in my first marriage...in the 1970's long before there was help.  I know what Jennifer is feeling...I stayed for 7 years.

 
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April 27, 2007, 2:22 pm PDT

Thank you, Dr. Phil!

Thank you, Dr. Phil, for helping Jennifer and Jeff.  I'm so impressed with the way you handled this situation, and the words of wisdom you spoke.  You were so wise to get Jeff help without letting him go back home, and to ask Jennifer to wait until he went through treatment before taking action on divorce proceedings.  Otherwise, we all know that Jeff would have refused to go to the treatment facility -- and that's a very scary thought, because now he feels even more out of control.  It will be interesting to see if he actually stays in the facility.  If he doesn't stay, Jennifer needs physical protection.  I believe that if Jennifer files for divorce before Jeff becomes more stable that he will kill her. 

 

My father is extremely abusive.  He is very controlling and manipulative -- just like Jeff.  My mother left him after 25 years of marriage with only the clothes on her back.  A friend loaned her the money to fly to a secret location over a thousand miles from my father.  She still lives in fear of him.  I hope and pray Jeff will become emotionally stable, but if not, I hope Jennifer will move far, far away to a top-secret location. 

 

Dr. Phil, you never cease to amaze me.  I get so much from your show, and I thank God such a good man of integrity, intelligence and common sense was found by Hollywood.  You've made us a healthier, better nation.   

 

God bless you and precious Robin.  I adore both of you.

 

Best regards,

Lori

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