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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court.  Join the discussion.

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April 28, 2007, 11:01 pm PDT

beyond obsession

I  have never seen a husband so obsessed with his wife and who would go to such great lengths to keep her under his thumb.   From tracking devices to checking her computer, it was all so freaky!!!!!   I can see how she would be very scared to leave, because the man is very unpredictable.  He has already proven he would go to great lengths to keep her at bay, but I also couldn't understand why she would keep emailing these men and having pictures of herself in bathing suits on her myspace.  I say this because, in my eyes, by her doing this,she is just giving him a motive to go on, I am not saying what he is doing is right.  It's definitely not!!!!   But she knows how obsessed her husband is and she has already stated she had affairs and that she dines with men.   I don't understand her side either.  I am married and I have been married for 10yrs and I would NEVER email a man nor would I be displaying myself on myspace in a provocitive way.     

 
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April 28, 2007, 11:24 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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There are two main issues but I don't agree with slapping both in face. He has been very controlling and it did not mention how his behavior was before she cheated. It wasn't said that it was orwas not a good marriage.Was there things already going on that the need for being wanted  was her problem. There are many things that drive that feeling of wanting to feel needed or wanted or if you feel like a ice cube in the marriage. No I am not giving her a excuss for cheating. I don't know what her's was but you want to travel down that lane you need to find out IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM that started before the cheating. I am very glad that Dr. Phil got him into treatment. He really needs this and I don't think anything can move to another step untill he does get some help. They both need help but he needs it first before that marriage can go ahead another step. I have been down the abuse line and people who haven't been there need to be more carefull of how they talk about what they don't know about.   
I  agree with crafty. I believe there is more to this problem that has not been discused.  The wife said she was not diserable to other men when she was with child. Maby I am old fashion.  I didnot know married women were worried if other men found them  desirable.  The husban does have serious problems.  I do not believe the wife will stick with him even if he changes completely.  Wonder how long this problem has been going on.  I did  not see the 2nd program so may have missed alot of information. 
 
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April 28, 2007, 11:40 pm PDT

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  I am confused & worried, this guy appears to be somewhat unhinged. I am puzzled how she coped for 11 years, it's a wonder she isn't a basket case. I don't know if this situation can be fixed but one way or the other she definitely needs a breath of fresh air. This guy might need a magician instead of a therapist.  Good Luck Dr Phil!

He has needed to have Power/Control over her from the minute they started dating.  In the beginning, he would do something crazy , apologize and promise to NEVER do it again.  Jeffrey admitted he started taping her phone conversations when they had only been married 2 months!!  He would start putting her down and eroding her self esteem.  He would lie about his intentions.  He would deny what he had done and make her feel as if she is crazy.  He began engineering her dependence on him by getting her pregnant and making her financially dependent on him.  She coped for 11 years through several methods of self protection and because of some of the things that he has done to her. 

 

1.  She divides herself into compartments.  All the bad stuff that he does is shoved into a compartment that is locked up and rarely opened because it is so painful.  Selective amnesia going into pandora's box.  This is why she appears unemotional.

 

2.  She "goes along to get along".  She keeps the peace by stepping back and allowing him to get away with what he does.  It is easier on the family if she puts herself last or denies herself completely. 

 

3.  She becomes the perfect wife, perfect mother, perfect everything.  If she does everything like he wants her to, maybe he will stop what he does.

 

4.  He isolated her from her family and friends.  She has no one to talk to.  No one who can help her through the crazyiness.  This is his "gift" that keeps on giving.  At a point, she will not even try and make friends because of what he will put her and them through.  She can ONLY have secret friendships now.

 

5.  At the 2 year mark, when she was at her wit's end trying to deal with all his crazyness, she has an affair.  A person to talk to......because he has cut her off from family & friends.  A person who treats her well.....Because she has been living with this emotionally abuse man for 2 years.  She has a way "Out".... Because, If she gets caught, surely they will divorce and it will put an end to the misery he has created in their life.

 

Everything that he does is classic verbal and emotional abuse.  If you read through the posts, you will have seen multiple times that other women have said "It was like my story on the show!"  A few changes here and there, but it is the same story, different names. 

 

Is she safe?  Well, that is possibly the PRIMARY reason that she stays!!  She DOES NOT know if she and her children are safe.  AND WHY WOULD SHE?  He has been doing unbelieveably crazy things from the very beginning.

 

You would be SHOCKED at how many of us are out there, just like her. 

 

Signed:  Just Like Her

 

 
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April 28, 2007, 11:55 pm PDT

Yoo Hoo...Jennifer...

RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN, RUN!!!

 

Leave skid marks if you have to, but get away from this lunatic if you ever want to see old age.

 

Do It NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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April 28, 2007, 11:58 pm PDT

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Those were crocodile tears cried by all abusers  You gave him just what he wanted.  You got her to stay with him.  Do you really believe that he deserves another chance because he is not an "evi"l person, he has just done evil things.  So if he kills her and his kids and then himself, is he better because he is a nice guy?  His poor wife was painted into a corner on your stage, delay her own life for even longer until he gets some help.  How could she say no?  Some women could have, but then those women don't stay in abusive relationships for 11 years.  The only good thing that came out of this is getting him out of the house long enough for her to pack up and leave (hopefully that is the real plan).  That woman and her children are in grave danger.  I hope you can help her get to a new place where she can restart her life, without him.  I know that two parents are usually better than one.  I don't believe in summarily dismissing a father, but he has had enough chances.  I do not want to read about the death of this family on the news.
That's essentially what I said several posts back.  You are absolutely right.  I, totally, agree.  I feel he is a very dangerous man.  You read about his kind all the time.  It usually ends in murder/suicide or him killing just the wife & he goes to prison or he kills the wfe & the kids.  She needs to get the kids & run as far & as fast as she can go and NOW!  The law won't do a damn thing about him until he kills someone.
 
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April 29, 2007, 12:22 am PDT

A really bad case of separation anxiety

Guess it turned out this man has he worse case of separation anxiety you can get.  Instead of washing his hands a hundred  times a day he has chosen to watch his wife 24/7.  Keeps his anxiety under control to control her.

 

This may be a better diagnosis then others he could have had.  I hope the anxiety center can help him get a handle on why he is the way he is.  Meds and behavioral therapy will help him tremendously.  He needs to substitute his obsession with his wife with rational thinking.

 

What if she leaves?  He needs to learn life will go on and his exsistence does not depend on keeping her under his watch around the clock.  I'm glad Dr. Phil go to the bottom of this and maybe now some healing can occur.

 
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April 29, 2007, 12:32 am PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

I am currently in a marriage with a man who is verbally abusive and obsessive.  He accuses me of sleeping with anything that moves, he is very suspicious of everyone.  He is very insecure and I think he is unstable.  I am in the process of preparing to leave.  This man is not only abusive to me but he is abusive to his own child.  He was abused as a child and now he is repeating the behavior.  The only good think I can say about him is that he is not physically abusive (not that he hasn't tried to be).  I pray that he gets help because he really needs it.
 
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April 29, 2007, 12:45 am PDT

i feel sorry for jen

 

i was in almost the same place when i was 19 yrs old. but i got out a yr after we was married he tried to kill me with his bare hands. jen if i was you i would go for the divorce and dont give him another chance cuz he will not change for you or anyone he has to change for himself. but any ways the police in my town didnt do a thing about my ex hubby. they let him walk away.which is bad cuz it is letting some killers stay on the streets. he also broke my hand and at that time the police still didnt do anything. but i got smart and put him out on the street. i had a female friend move in with me to help me with the bills and pay my rent since i couldnt do it on my own. my ex hubby if he coudlnt get his drugs watch out. i would leave my rent money with him while i was working and then when it was time for me to pay the landlord the rent money was gone.i felt so stupid. i couldnt go any where and if i did i had to go with his dad since we didnt have a car at the time. after i did my errands i had to come right home and after right home. i couldnt talk to anyone on the phone or if i seen my friends on the street i couldnt say hi and stop and talk to them. but thank god i never had any children with him. i finally was able to move from where he knew where i was to another place that he didnt know where i was. this is to all the people out there that get abused by hitting or with someones mouth u need to get out fast cuz it dont stop there.if u dont do it for you please do it for your kids and yr family and friends that love you so much.

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April 29, 2007, 12:50 am PDT

Sin in the Camp

I feel that Dr. Phil did a good job and that if the possibility of a saved marriage, then it should be saved.  Sending him to counseling is good.  But they both have issues of sin and both have wronged each other.  They both have areas they need to repent from and ask God to help them, and heal their marriage.

 

There is always hope on the other side, and if they repent and turn to God, then God can turn their marriage around.  There is hope......  I am married after 53 years of being single and I also married a virgin.  My point is that if GOd can bring a virgin man into my life in this day and age... which is a complete miracle that we are the same age..,....after waiting so many years and going through many many years of depression and if there was hope for me ........  then there is hope for this couple.  Christitans on this message board ask your churches  and intercessors to pray for this couple... first that there is true Godly repentence and secondly that God will heal their marriage.  I know God has done a miracle in my life and God can do it for them.  If you them personally have them read my posting.  Blessings to all.....Laverna

 
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April 29, 2007, 1:23 am PDT

Surprised / shocked

I too am very surprised Dr Phil told her to hold off on the divorce.   The lady NEEDS intense therapy, and a lot of other help.     I too am worried that her husband will harm her one day.    The witness protection plan sounds like a great idea, with the help of therapy, and financial help.

 

I know Dr Phil will do the right thing.

 
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