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Topic : 04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:40:41 pm

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Jeffrey and Jennifer's shocking and complicated story continues. During their 11-year marriage, Jeffrey has become so obsessed with Jennifer, he watches her every move. He has installed a GPS system in her car, taps her phone conversations, takes inappropriate pictures of her and watches her while she sleeps. Dr. Phil probes deep into Jeffrey's mind to find out why he acts the way he does. Is there any boundary Jeffrey won't cross when it comes to controlling his wife? Then, how are Jennifer and Jeffrey's three children being affected by the madness in the house? Their eldest child has been an eyewitness to his father's schemes. And, while Dr. Phil speaks one on one with Jennifer, Jeffrey has a total meltdown backstage, becoming physically ill. When Dr. Phil confronts him about his anxieties and offers a solution, will Jeffrey choose to make a change? Don’t miss the second part of this dramatic and emotional story, and find out if this family is on the path to healing or headed to divorce court. Join the discussion.

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callisto

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May 5, 2007, 11:06 am PDT

Physical Abuse

I had this episode taped, and just watched it, and was struck by something that the wife said. I know she didn't mean to come across as she did, but she sounded very flippant about physical abuse ("I'd rather just get punched and it be over"). The problem is that physical abuse often doesn't just occur by itself, without other, concurrent, forms of abuse. So while I was being physically abused by my ex for 3 years, I lived on "eggshells" 24/7 too. I was being mentally, emotionally, verbally, financially AND physically abused. I wonder if hers is a common misperception?

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msfrizbe

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May 5, 2007, 12:00 pm PDT

Mental Illness

Why is there any question for this woman.?Get out of the state.Phil,find her a safe home.He is ill,needs to be put away for awhile,she needs to leave right away before this is another tragic headline.Why in the world did she stay that long?

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msfrizbe

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May 5, 2007, 12:02 pm PDT

A LTIITLE EXTREME?????!!

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Maybe we should wait until the shows airs to judge everyone, maybe she did cheat on him and he has his reasons to do what he does, although I think they are a little extreme, or maybe he truly is crazy, who knows.

The man is INSANE.

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msfrizbe

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May 5, 2007, 12:03 pm PDT

Please read the rules

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I DARE YOU TO TRY SUPPORTING 4 CHILDREN ON A MINIMUM WAGE Job. YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN. YOU NEVER ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE TO GET BACK FOR THE NUTEST THINGS. THE TIRES ON THE CAR SLIT SO YOU CAN'T GO TO WORK AND MAKE HER LOSE HER JOB. THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO HIM ON HER HANDS AND KNEES AND TELL HIM HOW WRONG SHE WAS. THEN SHE HAS TO BE PUNISHED FOR HER BAD DEEDS. I ATTEMPTED SUSI DE. AS YOU CAN TELL I DID NOT SECEDE. WAS HELL BEFORE JUST WAIT TILL YOU FOUND FIND OUT WHAT HE THOUGHT TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION WHY HE WAITED FOR YOU TO HOME. OF COURSE WHAT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE WAS CHILD PLAY. HOW DARE YOU SAY SHE SHOULD JUST WALK AWAY. YOU HAVE NO!!!! IDEA WHAT HELL ON EARTH IS LIKE. DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE WHAT YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE.

It is considered rude and shouting to type in all caps

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May 5, 2007, 12:57 pm PDT

ONLY if that desire is strong enough

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wrong ! maybe you havent seen it, but I have. people do heal mentaly and emotionaly its not easy it takes time and help from God almighty but people are amazing! never underestimate what unconditional love can do for someone,its the lack of kindness, love, and support that probably is the root of all this anyway. I agree in healthy boundaries for safty physically and mentaly for her but no person is worth throwing away like garbage. Come on how many people take time training their dogs and cleaning up their crap wrapping it up in plastic and carry it around thats LOVE. Hurting people, hurt people. We cant teach them love when we throw them away. he still has children who want to be loved by him and need him to get better. Change Does Happen If The Desire Is Strong Enoughf

Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: One, but the lightbulb has to want to change.

Unfortunately in the real world, the "lightbulb" oftentimes does not want to change, they merely want to "change" the consequences of their actions. Note I am not saying that it can't ever happen, merely that the likelihood is not that great.

It will be interesting to see whether Jeffery can, with serious help, get on a road to normalcy. From some of the chatter about the promos, though, it may not be happening.

It will also be interesting to see whether Jennifer can find some self-confidence and learn again to live without being under constant scrutiny and accusations.

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May 5, 2007, 1:04 pm PDT

I knew it!

I just got the preview email in from Dr. Phil.

I knew Jeffrey thought he had conned everyone into his victim mode.

I hope he gets his ass thrown in jail for a long time, and Jennifer can move away and start a new life. I don't think in the long run staying with her parents will be totally safe.

Move to a new city, state and divorce this nutbar!

You deserve better, and real love, not this obsessive nut!

Run, Jen, run!

Get yourself a new life and after some counselling a NEW MAN!

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May 5, 2007, 1:08 pm PDT

04/27 Obsessive Love: The Drama Continues

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I guess you two didn't see the Preview of the next show when he RUNS from the limo. Why would you insense a person who has absolutely no control over themselves. I'll admit cheating makes a partner crazy angry but then it's up to you to say I'm worth more than this I deserve the love and RESPECT I give" He easily could've gone to a lawye and/ or therapist with all his "evidence" that his wife drives,showers and sleeps and would've losst custody anyway beacuase he has deviated from a normal standard of thought and behavior

I have sent a few message to this web site and some have been due to my emotions to this situation and I am sure others have done this too given their experince with abuse. I have taken a step back from the emotional and tried to determined why they went to the show. Although He wrote to Dr. Phil she also agreed to be on the show. It's my appendion that somewhere in each one of them they want to striaghten out their situation. My problem with the Dr. is not offering her some counciling along with the children. The best outcome would be for both the partners to quit what their doing and start their life fresh and be a family to the children. I try to look on the bright side. However I believe the DR. should work with both of them. If you have cancer of the lung and only remove one side their is no chance of the body healing. I pray for both of them and the children. Life is too short; we should enjoy while we can I am 69 year old man and maybe I am only rambling but I would hope that with age comes wisdom. PS It breaks my heart what this must be doing to the children.

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May 5, 2007, 3:01 pm PDT

WHACKO

I am sorry but this man is a whacko. I know, I know she did have an affair, but holy cow he is way, way, way off base with this obsession. In my opinion if he can't stay and get counseling, I'd be be very, very conserned for the safty of his wife. I think he is one step away from hurting her. He makes my flesh crawl. Had I been his wife I would be tempted to sew him up in a sheet, then after he fell asleep just whacked the heck outta him with a sack of horse manure! Seriously I think he is just about to step off the deep end here. I am afraid for her, he is just too obsessed. Major creep. If Dr Phil can't help him he may need to be committed?

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May 5, 2007, 3:27 pm PDT

Jen and Jeff

Okay, before everyone bites my head off, I just want to say that I believe that Jeff does need professional help. His mental state is shaky at best and his behavior is unacceptable. However, am I the only one who feels that Jen was wrong in cheating on him? Twice? This absolutely does NOT excuse his behavior, but I don't think it helped his behavior either. Furthermore, despite his obsessive tendancies, I don't think that Jen had the right to break the bonds of marriage. I just hope that she didn't justify her affair by pointing the finger at his misdeeds. My point is, with all of the focus on Jeff's obsessive love let's not forget that Jen did not help the situation with her equally inexusable affairs.

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May 5, 2007, 3:44 pm PDT

well

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I'd like to see that myspace. ..

Also, for all you people blaming her for his nutso behavior. I wonder if your tune would change if you were in her shoes. I don't recall anyone saying she had more than 1 affair. The affair is wrong, I won't dispute that, but no one deserves to live like her, if you can't trust a person, divorce them, don't make them a prisoner, lock them in the basement, chase them, follow them.... CRAZY!!

tloves, i tried to respond to you here but apparently the board wouldn't allow me to show you the links. do a search for the 'elliot in the morning' drive time show on google and you may learn more.

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