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Topic : 07/06 “Call it Off!”

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Created on : Friday, April 27, 2007, 01:58:22 pm
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(Original Air Date: 5/1/07) Have you ever wanted to shout out at a wedding when you heard, “Speak now or forever hold your peace”? Dr. Phil’s guests are at war and want their loved ones to think twice before walking down the aisle. Jessica says her parents, Ellen and Bruce, refuse to accept her boyfriend, Matt. The couple says Matt is a manipulative drug addict with a criminal past who has physically abused their daughter. Matt vows that he’s reformed and wants to make a fresh start. Should Jessica end her relationship, or should her parents butt out? Then, Jerry is 19 and about to say “I do” to his 30-year-old fiancée, Jessica. His siblings say Jessica is an opportunist looking for a father for her two small children. Jerry’s older brother, Jason, says Jerry is just confused, and he thinks Jessica seduced him. Jerry’s siblings also question Jessica’s fidelity, because they say she once flirted with Jerry’s older brothers. If Jerry is about to make the biggest mistake of his life, will he get a wake-up call before the wedding? Talk about the show here.

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May 3, 2007, 12:23 pm PDT

i agree..

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I was concerned about Jerry in the show today.  His communication and social skills seem very poor and low-level.  This is a guy that seems to me like he should be tested for certain disorders--Asperger's comes to mind, or other disorders of socialization/communication.

 

Did anyone else notice that he seemed unable to communicate or socialize very well, even for a 19-year old?

There was something both very strange and sad about Jerry's behavior on Tuesday's show.  He seemed to have a lot of pent-up anger toward his family...(hoping some of them would "burn in hell").  I was also very disturbed by the audience's constant laughter at the things he said.  IF, perhaps, this is a boy with social/mental problems, social embarassment/ridicule can only make this worse.  That woman is obviously controlling him- this was obvious by his sudden change of opinion about when they would be getting married at the end of the show.  She probably knows he is young, immature, and is looking for any way out from his family, thus making him easy to manipulate. The parents should get their acts together, and kick that moocher-woman out of their house.

As for the other couple...
coming from experience, you can try and try and TRY to tell someone that they are headed in the wrong direction in a relationship, but it sometimes takes hitting rock-bottom to come away from it.  Being in a verbal and abusive relationship for a year and a half when I was 19, my parents saw what was happening and tried their hardest to talk some sense into me. I was stubborn, and my self-esteem and self-worth were so low, I thought that a jerk of a man was all I was worth. 
After I eventually hit rock-bottom and had no where else to go, I saw what my parents and friends were trying to tell me and RAN. Now 2 years later, I have found the love of my life, a wonderful Christian man who I will marry next summer. Some people are not so lucky...some women never come out of an abusive relationship.  All we can hope is that her parents continue and do NOT give up on their daughter. Pray for her! 
A parent's fervent prayers are honestly the only thing that pulled me through.
 
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May 3, 2007, 1:00 pm PDT

Think about the kids!

I divorced my ex-husband because of his affair with someone 24 years younger than him.  I was willing to do whatever it took to make it work, but he clearly had his mind made up to remain with this girl (after 3 kids and 11 years of marriage).  I have no regrets because I gave it my all and I think that is why I am not bitter about anything.  I feel bad for this girl because she does not realize that she has thrown her life away.  She probably won't realize it for many more years to come though.  What will she end up with?  No college education because she moved out of her house, someone who doesn't value marriage or the hard work that is needed to make one work and someone without a lot of integrity always looking for the easy way out or the short cut.  What happens when his looks start to fade?  What happens when someone younger or more attractive catches her eye?  What happens when she becomes resentful for skipping college for him? 

 

As for the 30 year old and 19 year old wanting to get married...what's the hurry?!  This woman has more to think about here.  She has kids involved.  What kind of pain have they already been through from her last relationship?  Divorce is not easy on adults but for goodness sake, have mercy on the kids!  These two are both young enough to wait a little while, to get some pre-marital counseling and get a plan in place.  If they can work this out in the next year or two and still want to move forward, I say good luck and go for it.  Would you take a trip to a foreign country without planning out your itinerary first?  I don't think these two have though much beyond the wedding day!

 
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May 3, 2007, 1:17 pm PDT

I am going to marry a 19 year old

I am 28 years old and met a 19 year old from England online last July.  We met in person in January.  When I met him I have never felt so comfortable in my life.  We plan on moving him here next spring and getting married.  I have 2 children.  I have asked him many times if this is something he really wants to do.  We talk online everyday.  I love him with all of my heart.  I have tried to end it with him because I am worried that he will move and decide that it is too much for him.  I have thought about it many times trying to decide if it is the right thing to do and honestly I cannot think of any reason why it would not be.  He is a very smart and passionate individual.  He is educated and plans of finishing his computer engineering degree after he moves.  He has been offered many high paying computer jobs over there but has turned them down because they would mean he has to sign a 5 year contract and cannot move.  I really honestly do believe we are meant to be together.
 
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May 3, 2007, 2:02 pm PDT

05/01 “Call it Off!”

This show made me pretty uncomfortable on several counts.  First, 11 years is not that big of an age difference.  Is our gender bias so strong that it's OK for a guy, Not OK for a gal to marry younger?

 

Second, I felt sorry for the young man being made fun of on the show.  He seemed sincere.

 

 
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May 3, 2007, 5:23 pm PDT

Sorry to Say

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 Love and care for eachother? Spoken like someone who truly has never dealt with addiction first hand. Dr.Phil may not have touched on the beating up of Matt or the condescending tone with which her mother spoke of him, but the core issue was that neither of them was healthy enough DESPITE her parents opinions, to get married. Until they can separately learn how to love themselves and carry their own in life, Dr.Phil stated quite correctly that they wouldn't have a chance. They would do eachother damage, not good.
Oh, and yes, I DO deal with recovery on a DAILY basis, so I can say with all certainty that Dr. Phil addressed the biggest issue on the table.

In response to your idea that I am someone "who truly has never dealt with addiction first hand," I have been clean and sober since 1986, and one of my children died as a direct result of addiction.  More than likely, it would be better if I didn't respond at all, but I can't just sit back and let you think you know all there is to know - and believe that you can never learn something new - about addiction.

 
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May 3, 2007, 7:42 pm PDT

About Jessica and Matt

Jessica's parents could have been me and my husband 16 years ago.  Our beautiful daughter was dating a druggie who was verbally abusive to her, didn't like to work, lost his drivers license and hated us.  She was determined to marry him and it didn't matter what we pointed out to her, she always came up with an excuse for him.  I warned her that there is a very thin line between verbal and physical abuse, but she didn't believe me.  She paid for the marriage license and pretty much supported him.  After nearly two years he came home one early morning after being out drinking all night and beat her up.  She called police and he was put in jail.  Then she called us and we moved her back home that day.  Much later she told me that she knew she had made a mistake the day she got married.  I asked her why she didn't annul the marriage and come home and her reply was that she didn't want to admit she was wrong.  So I hope Jessica and Matt took Dr. Phil's advice to not see, or talk to each other for three months.  Perhaps she will realize that her parents are right.  Otherwise she will suffer just like my daughter did.  I thank God every day that there were no children born to this marriage.
 
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May 3, 2007, 10:09 pm PDT

to both couples

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Jessica's parents could have been me and my husband 16 years ago.  Our beautiful daughter was dating a druggie who was verbally abusive to her, didn't like to work, lost his drivers license and hated us.  She was determined to marry him and it didn't matter what we pointed out to her, she always came up with an excuse for him.  I warned her that there is a very thin line between verbal and physical abuse, but she didn't believe me.  She paid for the marriage license and pretty much supported him.  After nearly two years he came home one early morning after being out drinking all night and beat her up.  She called police and he was put in jail.  Then she called us and we moved her back home that day.  Much later she told me that she knew she had made a mistake the day she got married.  I asked her why she didn't annul the marriage and come home and her reply was that she didn't want to admit she was wrong.  So I hope Jessica and Matt took Dr. Phil's advice to not see, or talk to each other for three months.  Perhaps she will realize that her parents are right.  Otherwise she will suffer just like my daughter did.  I thank God every day that there were no children born to this marriage.

I agree with dr. phil that the first couple need no contact for 90 days.. ( like in house rehab).  I also feel that this girl is going against her parents to spite them.  I think this happends to a lot of people.  they do drugs together .. and its like their way of connecting. Which I think dr. phil saw.

The girl has issueswith her parents.  I didn't like the laughing and not taking 60 days sober as a good thing. Sober is hard and  maybe its 60 days but, its better thans nothing.

 

The second couple.  the family might not Agree with this wedding. But, let him seen how it is and from there ... let him fall in learn.  best thing. 

I didn't like this woman.. I have a feeling she will be on maury.. and the show called "I slept with 4 of your brothers and you might not be the father"

 

her flirting with brothers in the family.. creep-e.

 
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May 3, 2007, 10:34 pm PDT

Jerry and Jessica

Somebody stop that poor boy!  If Jessica had any REAL love for Jerry she never would have allowed herself to become involved with him.  He should be free at his age, to explore so many aspects of life - not tied down to someone who's already taken her tricycle around the block a few times.
 
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May 4, 2007, 3:05 am PDT

Jessica and Matt

 People are so quick to judge others and tell them what they should do with out knowing the whole story or even about the addictions they have.  Just because u  have read something about the drug of choice dose not make u a expert on it.  If  u have not been there and done that and know what it is all about then u should keep your comments to your self. If i remember right , I think it was meth. If so then now that they are off of it they are totally different people then when they were on it. The drug changes who u are. Plus depending on the kind of meth u are taking will also add to it, each one is different and has different effects on u. The rehab thing is just B.S.!! they do not do anything for u. It's what is inside u , if u want to stop or not! Just like anything in life that is a addiction. If u don't want to quite u won't! Her Prent's have the tight to be upset , it is a natural thing for parents to want to protect there children. But they need to find out more information about the drug and how it changes people. That way they will have more insight into what is going on instead of running off at the mouth about something they know nothing about!!
 
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May 4, 2007, 3:32 am PDT

Call it Off!”

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i was totally upset the other day when dr.phil told that young couple to wait before getting married because of the difference in their age. She was 30 and he was 19.  Well, Dr. Phil I say SO  WHAT!!!!!  I was 35 years old and my wife was 18 when we met. We have been together ever since. We will be married 17 years as of this August and we have a wonderful marriage. She is my best friend and I am hers. We get along just great and have so since the beginning. So, don't be telling people that age differences matter. If the two people love each other, what's the problem. If it doesn't work out between them, OH WELL!!!!!!. Isn't it ok to learn from experience. I was always taught that experience is the best teacher. I'll keep watching your show, because I like to dissagree with you and some of your tactics and advice. LIVE AND LET LIVE  DR. PHIL.

Thanks.

.....I don't think that age was the only reason Dr Phil said to chill out. Being that the young man is so young and lacks life's experience, and the 30 year old has been through two births and a relationship, may be the reason. After two months and then deciding to get married? He does not have a job, they live with parents, don't ya think maybe they better get a foundation set before they get hitched? I agree, wait and then maybe get married. Counseling would help. My second husband was much older. I was 43 and he was 56.  It worked because of our life experiences. We had time to live and learn. He passed away one year and one month after we married. I have since married a younger man, 6 years. I did not know his age until much later. LOL.....but it is working........God gave me a second chance.

   If the two people love each other, what's the problem. If it doesn't work out between them, OH WELL!!!!!!. Isn't it OK to learn from experience. Is it wrong to want to help a couple from making a mistake? Is that not why they were on the show?? If Dr Phil would have been around when I met my first husband, I would not have married. He was 23, I was 18. I may have been an adult, but I knew nothing about life!............we learn from our experiences, but we should be open minded enough so that we don't make stupid mistakes........and this couple is not being very wise. Especially the 30 year old. She should know better. I actually felt bad for the young man. The way he sat and took it from his family, he appeared withdrawn. Getting married is not the way out, there are better ways of freeing one self from ones troubles. Just my two cents.....

 
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