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Topic : 07/06 “Call it Off!”

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Created on : Friday, April 27, 2007, 01:58:22 pm
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(Original Air Date: 5/1/07) Have you ever wanted to shout out at a wedding when you heard, “Speak now or forever hold your peace”? Dr. Phil’s guests are at war and want their loved ones to think twice before walking down the aisle. Jessica says her parents, Ellen and Bruce, refuse to accept her boyfriend, Matt. The couple says Matt is a manipulative drug addict with a criminal past who has physically abused their daughter. Matt vows that he’s reformed and wants to make a fresh start. Should Jessica end her relationship, or should her parents butt out? Then, Jerry is 19 and about to say “I do” to his 30-year-old fiancée, Jessica. His siblings say Jessica is an opportunist looking for a father for her two small children. Jerry’s older brother, Jason, says Jerry is just confused, and he thinks Jessica seduced him. Jerry’s siblings also question Jessica’s fidelity, because they say she once flirted with Jerry’s older brothers. If Jerry is about to make the biggest mistake of his life, will he get a wake-up call before the wedding? Talk about the show here.

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May 1, 2007, 1:24 pm PDT

TOO YOUNG??

 Well my parents married when they were 17 and 19 and they are still married today 26 years later. I think that people are different, some people may be mature enough to handle married life and children at a younger age than others. I married my husband when he was 19. We all know men tend to mature at a slower rate than women do....so I know some 34 year olds who too immature to get married...and some people should never have kids( the ones who NEVER want to grow up) This guy seems a little immature and naive though I believe that a person knows when they are really in love, 100%, though some are not willing to admitt outloud that they are not sure to that 100% and they may want out! So I feel this guy knows in his heart the truth, and that is for him to decide, because in the eyes of the law he is an adult and can make this decision on his own. This lady also knows her own intentions and if they are not true and purely based on love then that is something she will have to live with....ON a note that no one has brought up (that I saw) what about her kids?? I dont think that she should be moving a guy in so quickly and letting him be around her kids without really even knowing him. I think she is the one with the real issue here...not the guy.
 
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May 1, 2007, 1:26 pm PDT

05/01 “Call it Off!”

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I was 33 when I fell in love with a man who was 20.  I had 3 children at the time.  We got married when he was 21 and I was 34.  We have been married for almost 9 years and we are very happy and very much in love.  My husband is a terrific step father and has always referred to my children as his children.  We are not the same tpe of people as the people on the show, as in personality and levels of responsibilty, so maybe that is why it has worked out so well.  I agree that the couple on the show today should not get married because the man who is 19 seems to be very immature and inexperienced in life.  But sometimes relationships can work out very well, even when people are 13 years apart in age.

And you don't feel guilty that you'd robbed your husband of his youth?  I think to say "the couple on the show today should not get married because the man who is 19 seems to be very immature" is ridiculas.  He's "immature" compaired to what a 30 yr. old?  I imagine he would seem immature.  My kids *all seem immature* & that's not because they're really immature it's because they haven't had the same life experience I have & so when I hear of decisions they're making I'm thinking "what?!"  Thinking back to *when I was their age* I realize that the mistakes they're making I'd made too & while we want them to learn from our mistakes * experiences* some thing we have to learn ourselves!  We can't be thinking & acting like a someone 13 yrs. our senior because we haven't had those same experiences YET.  If I'm with someone of my *own age* & I'm 21 yrs. old then he or she is on the same *maturity level* as me & what to someone in her 40's may look "immature" to us may look fine just because we're on the same level.  I don't think that there can't be any age difference & frankly hubby is 6 yrs. older than I but I think when it is 10 or more years we're coming from completely different times & don't even have the same memories in the way of times.  If I say "when we were kids" I mean when *hubby & I* were kids. 

 

So I think my question to you was what were you doing in your 20's & do you not feel guilty that your husband missed out on those things?   

 
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May 1, 2007, 1:31 pm PDT

THANK YOU SO MUCH

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The saying, "age is just a number" is BS. It is way more than a number. This is about her life experience and his LACK of life experience-- which is what drives him to allow this woman to control him. He'll grow up and rebel, like all controlled children do.
You said this so much better than I.  I can't believe that no one else see this?  And I just can NOT believe when I hear someone call a teen or 20 something "immature".  in comparison 30 or 40 yr. old aren't all teens or 20 something's Immature? 
 
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May 1, 2007, 1:34 pm PDT

05/01 “Call it Off!”

 the first couple, I agree, need a break. great advice.. I am afraid their recovery is too fresh for them to make a life long decision.
 
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May 1, 2007, 1:43 pm PDT

05/01 “Call it Off!”

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 I happen to be a member of AA and one of AAs suggestions is to wait one year from your last drink or drug before you get into any relationship.   When you suggested that they wait 90 days, I feel it is not long enough.  They will not even be out of the alcohol or drug haze by then.  When she has been away from him for a year, and has been working on herself for that amount of time, she may or may not want to be with him.  By then she may have changed so much, and found other people who love her and validate her, that he is just a bad dream.
 Yeah that seems to refer to ones spouse too. That cult destroyed my marriage...but I guess thats another topic
 
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May 1, 2007, 1:49 pm PDT

So true...

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The saying, "age is just a number" is BS. It is way more than a number. This is about her life experience and his LACK of life experience-- which is what drives him to allow this woman to control him. He'll grow up and rebel, like all controlled children do.
Well said.   Also, what disturbs me about this is that she seems like she'd play the brothers off of each other to keep control of Jerry.  This is about control for her, NOT love!!!
 
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May 1, 2007, 1:51 pm PDT

AGE DOESN'T MATTER IN A RELATIONSHIP...

I WAS VERY YOUNG WHEN I STARTED HAVING CHILDREN, & THOUGHT THAT MARRIAGE WAS THE NEXT MOST NATURAL THING TO DO IN  LIFE, HOWEVER, WAS TOO YOUNG TO GET MARRIED, & SINCE MY PARENTS DIDN'T APPROVE OF THE MARRIAGE, HAD TO WAIT 4 YRS UNTIL I TURNED 18...WELL, BY THIS TIME, I HAD BEEN WITH THIS PERSON ON/OFF FOR 4 YRS, & ON OUR 2ND CHILD.  I HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT MARRIAGE, & KNEW THAT IT WOULD HAVE NEVER WORKED, DECIDED TO PUT OFF GETTING MARRIED, THEN YET A THIRD CHILD BEFORE I WAS EVEN 21...THOUGH HE WAS 3 YRS OLDER THEN ME, I WAS FAR MORE MATURE, DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO TAKE OUR KIDS, & MOVE ON WITH OUR LIVES...3 YRS LATER, AT THE AGE OF 24, MET MY HUSBAND, WHOM IS 9 YRS OLDER THEN I. WE MARRIED A YR & A HALF LATER, & TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK THAT WAS STILL TOO YOUNG FOR MARRIAGE, KIDS CAME NATURAL FOR ME, COMING FROM A BIG FAMILY, BUT MARRIAGE WAS ANOTHER EXPERIENCE ALL IN IT'S OWN, IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS 30 YRS OLD THAT I FINALLY EXCEPTED MY MARRIAGE, & DECIDED IT WAS WORTH THE FIGHT...BECAUSE IT IS A STRUGGLE!

 
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May 1, 2007, 1:55 pm PDT

marriage

My brother at the age of 19 Married a 30 yr old women with 2 girls.

They had 2 boys and were married for 30 yrs,  when he died of a heart attack.

It was a very happy marriage.

 

 
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May 1, 2007, 1:55 pm PDT

CALL IT OFF

I also wish that the audience didn't laugh at the 19 year old young man. He is obviously confused and in some emotional pain regarding his family.

Did they address the reason why Jessica is living with his parents?

I sure hope that Dr. Phil follows up with this couple. It sounds like they are both resistant to counseling because they do not want to be talked out of marriage. The young man's last minute change of mind (regarding counseling) said a lot to me- it seemed as though he was hoping Jessica would say 'yes' to the counceling, but she didn't, she said "I'm getting married in one week.." Hopefully it will be to someone else.

 
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May 1, 2007, 1:56 pm PDT

Time for changing...

 I really felt for both Jessica and Matt today, and totally agree with Dr. Phil's advice. I myself am a recovering drug addict, with just over 13 months of clean time under my belt. I can very much relate to how Jessica stated that "nobody gets it", for that was how I lived a large part of my life as well. I can also understand how she feels that Matt is 'the one', as he has stuck by her side throughout active addiction and now early recovery. You have both made a huge step by admitting that you need help, and don't let anyone take that from you - it's huge.
I sincerely hope, however, that you both take the advice that's been given you; recovery will not be gentle to you, nor is it an overnight change. Until you can both be healthy and happy individually, I'd hate to imagine the co-dependancy and damage that could result from a relationship. It seems that you may be attached to eachother more because you are fellow addicts, not as much out of a healthy love for one another. I only say this because I went down that road SEVERAL times before realizing what I was doing. Believe me, it never works out, no matter how many times your addiction tells you otherwise. IT LIES.
We addicts make many of the same mistakes over and over, expecting the results to be different 'this time'. Seems pretty nuts, eh? It IS.
What Dr.Phil has offered you is many an addicts' dream come true; he's reaching out to bridge the gap where your disease would otherwise have you alienated and isolated.
Don't let this opportunity pass you by.
I wish you both all the best, individually, with your recovery, happiness, and futures.
**We didn't become addicted in one day, so remember, easy does it**.
All the best....
Tabitha Lacey
Winnipeg, MB. Canada




 
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