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Topic : 08/27 Bully Dads

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Created on : Friday, April 27, 2007, 02:00:31 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/02/07) They threaten, scream, intimidate and even bite. They’re not tantrum-throwing kids … they’re bullying dads! Shannon has only been married for three months but says she’s ready for a divorce. She says her husband, Kevin, calls her kids “fat,” “lazy” and “losers,” and has physically assaulted her son. She even called the police on him three weeks before their recent wedding. Kevin says he feels like he’s being pushed to his breaking point and intimidates his stepchildren because he is not allowed to punish them. To find out what was going on, Dr. Phil set up cameras in the couple’s home. You won’t believe what they reveal! Can Shannon and Kevin save this marriage, or was it doomed from the start? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 9, 2007, 12:55 am PDT

Remove the kids?

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 Dear Dr. Phil,

As a social service professional,andasamother of three children, I must tell you that I am frustrated atthe outcome of this program.  I realize that you will bemonitoring this family, and if need be, you will take action to remove the children from this unhealthy, horrific and damaging environment.. However, I must asky ou why,as a mandated reporter, you did not contact DCFS and request that they look into removing the children asap?

I  was sad,angry,and Ifelt impotient that I could not assist these innocent victims. I have some empathy for the mother as I haveheardherexcuses before,and although there areavenues opentoher,Ido understand herfear..  I even have someempathyforthestep-father,as I stronglybelieve that he needsimmediateassistance. Nevertheless, theneeds of the children mustcome beforeassistance to eitherrparent is given. I stronglyfeel thatthesechildren should beremoved from the home,and althoughfostercare,orther care given tothem by a relative may by no stretchoftheimagination be ideal, atthis point, it is my firm suggestionthatitwould be an improvement totheir present living conditions.

Perhapsbothofthe parents arevictims of society, or early adulthood, but atthepresentthe childrenare the victims, and this shouldhavebeendealtwithimmediately. Dr. Phil, unless Imissedsomething,Ithinkthat  you goofed.

Sincerely yours,

Social Services, as far as I'm concerned, has caused more family breakups than any other reason I can think of. CPS isn't the answer to every family problem. Pull the kids out and so what? Put them in Foster Care? Sure, like that will help.

 

You need to keep your family-wrecking organization OUT of things.

 
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May 9, 2007, 1:10 am PDT

05/02 Bully Dads

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I'm SICK of the way everybody blames the woman. 

 

 

 

 

She is EXACTLY where the blame starts. It's clear she NEVER  taught her son manners OR respect for his elders.

 

The bottom line is this. Social Services, the government and all these "experts" need to get the hell OUT of the home and give the power to parent BACK to parents.

 
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May 9, 2007, 6:53 am PDT

I really really want to see an update on this man!

This episode  has brought me to tears while at work, no child no matter what they do needs to be treated in that manner. He is really demented and sick to find so many excuses for himself acting in this manner. I hope she leaves him and if not that her children are taken away from her she doesn't deserve them. If that child cuts that mans throat on day, be very clear it is in self denfense, he is being abused to his limits and one day he will stand up for himself if nobody else does.       I am praying for those children.

 
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May 9, 2007, 8:24 am PDT

05/02 Bully Dads

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She is EXACTLY where the blame starts. It's clear she NEVER  taught her son manners OR respect for his elders.

 

The bottom line is this. Social Services, the government and all these "experts" need to get the hell OUT of the home and give the power to parent BACK to parents.

You have to remember she was in a previously abusive relationship and her children witnessed this abuse.  She didn't say specifically her children were abused as well; but it would be very hard, if not impossible, to not be affected by this environment.  So, her son has learned what he has been taught by her ex-husband and her current husband.  I'm sure she doesn't condone her sons behavior, but she can certainly understand it.  Whether her son "respects" the bully dad or not, the mother knows he will still abuse him.
 
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May 9, 2007, 8:28 am PDT

05/02 Bully Dads

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Social Services, as far as I'm concerned, has caused more family breakups than any other reason I can think of. CPS isn't the answer to every family problem. Pull the kids out and so what? Put them in Foster Care? Sure, like that will help.

 

You need to keep your family-wrecking organization OUT of things.

Actually, Dr. Phil did say he was contacting CPS.  They are there to protect the children, but unfortunately have made some mistakes, just as any other organization has.  The most important thing is they recognize their mistakes and are constantly striving on improvement.  In Michigan, the foster care division has a special group dedicated to keeping families together after an incident has been reported to CPS.
 
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May 9, 2007, 11:48 am PDT

I can't believe

I can't believe that Shannon hasn't been called out too.  Saying, "I will slit your throat  you ______  _________.  WHAT IS THAT TEACHING THE CHILDREN????????  I just can't believe that Dr. Phil hasn't mentioned that she is a jerk and likes to antagonize him. 
 
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May 9, 2007, 12:45 pm PDT

05/02 Bully Dads

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I can't believe that Shannon hasn't been called out too.  Saying, "I will slit your throat  you ______  _________.  WHAT IS THAT TEACHING THE CHILDREN????????  I just can't believe that Dr. Phil hasn't mentioned that she is a jerk and likes to antagonize him. 
I can't believe it either. And, what about that smart-mouthed kid of hers? He should be called to task. I think Shannon needs as much help as Bully Dad. I usually agree with Dr. Phil, and I know he's the expert, but I'm an old lady who's been around the block a few times and I think he missed on this one.
 
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May 9, 2007, 1:07 pm PDT

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

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I can't believe that Shannon hasn't been called out too.  Saying, "I will slit your throat  you ______  _________.  WHAT IS THAT TEACHING THE CHILDREN????????  I just can't believe that Dr. Phil hasn't mentioned that she is a jerk and likes to antagonize him. 

It's about time that someone says something about Shannon.  She sat there and atagonized him.  She is so smug.  Shannon if you read these, just know this.  ONE-He  should NEVER act the way he is.  He should NEVER threaten or abuse a child.  Just as well though, YOU SHOULD NEVER instigate him the way you did.  If you won't punish your children when they misbehave then you shouldn't stop their father from punishing them.. I throughly don't believe that a stepparent shouldn't punish a stepchild.  I'm not even in the home and I can tell you that as you are pulling out of the driveway to go to class, your son is flipping him off.  HOW DARE YOU ALLOW YOUR SON TO DISRESPECT HIS FATHER..  HOW DARE YOU ABUSE YOUR HUSBAND THAT WAY....SHOWING YOUR DAUGHTERS THAT IT"S OK  TO VERBALLY AND EMOTIONALY ABUSE THEIR SPOUSE>>.You are in complete denial that you need help as well.  I know this from experiance.  I was in an abusive relationship and was gun shy.  HOWEVER, you are projecting that onto your children.  They are treating, the only man willing to father them,  the way I can imagine you were treated by your ex.  So here you go,,, Your ex isn't showing them how to treat their spouse, YOU ARE!!!!!!    Your son needs to know that if he disrespects his dad while your gone then he will have to deal with you when you return..  OK  your son won't take out the garbage while your gone, then when you get home, even at midnight, wake him up and make him do it.  ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOUR SON DOES NEED TO LEARN RESPECT.. If you won't allow his dad to do it then at LEAST YOU SHOULD..

 
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May 9, 2007, 1:47 pm PDT

05/02 Bully Dads

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I can't believe it either. And, what about that smart-mouthed kid of hers? He should be called to task. I think Shannon needs as much help as Bully Dad. I usually agree with Dr. Phil, and I know he's the expert, but I'm an old lady who's been around the block a few times and I think he missed on this one.

I can see that this family as a whole has fallen apart.  When you actually live in that kind of situation it becomes habit and learned.  I myself went through this with my oldest and now she respects her step father and treats him with respect.  All also think that what comes around goes around.  On the show they stated they were together for 3 years I believe.  Hum, sound like learned behavior to me.

 

Shannon, get out!  Run for the hills honey and don`t look back.  Your kids come first no matter what.  Any man with a temper like that toward any child no matter what the kids says is bad.

 
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May 9, 2007, 3:29 pm PDT

Jerk Bully Dad

Okay, I'm watching this episode for the 2nd time; Dr. Phil and CPS needs to intervene in this family.   NOW!    The children are not protected from either mother or father.

 

What can we do?

 
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