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Topic : 08/09 Overweight and Forgotten

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Created on : Friday, April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/04/07) Dr. Phil speaks with women who say they feel forgotten by their loved ones because of their excessive weight. Lorna weighs 650-plus pounds and feels abandoned by her family. Lorna’s sister, Glenice, says Lorna got herself into this situation; now she has to take responsibility and get herself out. Lorna’s boyfriend, Blair, takes care of her, but Glenice says he’s not the Mr. Nice Guy he appears to be. She says he's really an abuser. Lorna says Blair is exhausted and stressed from the hard job of caring for her, and her family needs to help rather than drive him away. Is Lorna ready to stop accepting the abuse and start accepting help? Then, Sunni weighs almost 300 pounds and wants to pursue her dream of being a plus-size model. Her boyfriend, Christian, however, says she’s too fat for the runway, and she should leave that dream to the skinny girls. Sunni says she is big and fabulous, and Christian makes her feel like she should crawl under a rock. Will Sunni be forced to pick between her relationship and her dream? Share your thoughts here.

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May 3, 2007, 1:54 am PDT

05/04 Overweight and Forgotten

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If you weigh that much, you are not the one going to the store and buying food!  Whoever is supplying the food is the one who can control the quality and quantity of food.  Losing weight is not easy by no means, I have been there and know that it is YOU that needs to make the sacrifice. 

 

Although the family could provide moral support, it is not their responsibility to lose the weight for you.  I'm sure that you enabled yourself to get to a considerable weight.  Now that you are apparently homebound, your family should be grateful that at least someone is willing to take care of you.  I know that exercising is out of the question at this point, but you can start by not sitting in a chair all day long.

 

A food adiction is not like alcholism......you can live without ever putting a drop of liquor in your mouth but you can not live without putting some food in your mouth!

I think people at that extreme weight CAN exersize.  There's lots of exersizing that can be done in bed or sitting in a chair.  Using hand weights helps too.  Even walking around the house would help. 
 
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May 3, 2007, 5:44 am PDT

05/04 Overweight and Forgotten

My family made a decision, that seems to be working for my Mother.

You see, at 400 lbs she is morbidly obese, her joints are suffering, her blood pressure was going through the roof, she was a heart attack or stroke looking for somewhere to happen.  Okay weight loss, like quitting smoking, drugs or drinking, NOT EASY, but nothing worthwhile in life is.  Think about this the next time you drink down a gallon of pop, what will your children do if you have a heart attack or stroke, and become diabled and dependant ? Is it fair to them to have to care for the parent, can they lift you to roll you over or bathe you ?  How painful will it be for them to see you laying there unable to care for them or yourself ? What about the husband/wife who has to work all day and then come home to be a full time caregiver ? You know if you stopped buying the JUNK, then you'll find that eating well is just as cheap.

Okay, the decision, I know someof you will scream about the cruelty of it, we have made a CHOICE NOT to buy junk food for her.  She can call and ask me to bring it over with me, but my sister and I say NO, my Father no longer brings home fast food for her anymore, and takes the credit card to work with him so she can't order out, we ARE NOT starving her, we make sure the pantry and fridge are stocked up for her, and we kids make an effort to go see her and take her out shopping, or just for a walk so she isn't alone all the time, and getting her active ( the mall if you enjoy it is great, combining something fun like shopping with exercise ), our Father walks every evening with her, and cooks for her.

Easy, HELL NO, she ranted, raved went on like a crazy lady for a couple of weeks, its NOT for the faint of heart, but we stuck to it we REFUSED to enable her anymore, her blood pressure is down, still high, but moving in the right direction, her joints aren't swelling as much, and she finds herself able to get around MUCH EASIER, her blood sugar has stabilized to the point that her Doctor is jumping for joy, she has lost 20 lbs, and it continues to go down.

This is a FAMILY issue, of course YOU have to be WILLING to step up and say NO MORE, and offer the SUPPORT they need by eating better yourself, if it's not in the house you won't eat it.  Starvation dosen't work, abuse is WRONG and only exaserbates the underlying issues, if you are concerned, take them to the mall and walk around, or to the park, sometimes even just listening to them, keeping them company helps, but to abandon them, NO it makes things worse.

Just my two cents.

 

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May 3, 2007, 6:10 am PDT

that would be soooo great

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IF your that overweight why in the world can you not do something about your weight? Dr's can refer you for surgery. There are diet programs which I just did myself to help you eat healthy. I find this like alcholism........just find help and make the choice to quit putting it in your mouth. When it comes down to it, your all by yourself. You should not have to depend on anyone to take care of you. For crying out loud........do something to change the situation that you are in. Opinions?
It is great that a diet program worked for you !!!
I have been referred for surgery several times, but my insurance won't cover this surgery unless I have been in doctor supervised program for  12 months. this would be fine ... but guess what ? the insurance will not cover this doctor supervised program. I don't reallly understand why insurance would pay for infertility treatment, but make it so diffucult to receive benfits for obesity. all the studies say that losing weight decreases your risk for heart disease (expensive for insurance), diabetes (expensive for insurance), and other conditions that cost insurance companies big money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! does anyone else see the irony in this ?
I am trying to eat healthier (fresh fruit and veggies have almost doubled my grocery bill and healthy proteins are WAY more expensive than those with high fat) and I walk 1.5 miles to and from work every day. Of course this is not doctor supervised so I am on my own ........again

Anyway, As i said before, I am glad that one diet plan worked for you, I believe you are in the minority .... Also, overeating is not like alcoholism .... you must eat to live.
 
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May 3, 2007, 7:14 am PDT

I also know that Lorna is a beautiful person

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Lorna is a beautiful person ...I know first hand ...she did raise you from the time you were a small girl and is very proud of you and the babies ..she longs to be able to go and visit with you ...I am happy that you are proud of her and that you are happy about the show ..it took alot of guts for her to do that .....HURRAY for Lorna ..Love Aunty

 I also know  first hand how much of a beautiful person Lorna is.  Lorna is my Aunt.  Being only 4 years older than me; she has been more of a sister-figure as opposed to an Aunt.  This being said, I would like to say that those of you who are judging her need to 'Walk A Mile In Her Shoes'.  She has always been the type of person to think of others before herself.  She is the first person in the family to take up a donation for anyone in need ; she ALWAYS treats my boys like her own, and she has NEVER turned down anyone or anything in need.  Is it too much for her to ask this in return ??  I certainly hope not !! Those of you who are unaware ( or ignorant - whichever the case may be ) should do a little research on obesity and self-esteem so that the next time someone makes a cry for help - you will be able to share an EDUCATED OPINION !!

Lynda

 
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May 3, 2007, 7:38 am PDT

GOOD FOR YOU

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obesity is an expanding problem that needs to be dealt with.  The overweight women is in denial and causing  an unfair environment.   The first thing she should do is admit she is the problem and has a problem.  The body can only process food at a certain rate.  to keep eating is not solving the prolem..  As a truck driver I feel fuller standing up than sitting down which is when i eat.  To off set the prolem  i have started walking while my trailer is being loaded.  I have walked over 30 miles in the last 3 weeks.  This helps with the digestive system.  I have also have started drinking replacement meal such as slim fast.  It takes the first step to make a differance in life.  You are either part of the problem or part of the solution.  Failure is NOT a option.
This reply seems to more about YOU as opposed to the women on the set.  Give it up - what, do you want a standing ovation for your accomplishments ?? Failure is not an option - it's the feeling of hopelessness.  I coudn't help notice your name was motivator.  I guess I should count my lucky stars that I don't have you motivating me !!!  In my opinion, it's arrogance that is causing an unfair environment - and it is opinions like this that MAKE people feel they are  failures.  Keep up the good work, maybe Dr. Phil can do a show on free advice.
 
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May 3, 2007, 7:54 am PDT

Thank you

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     I think it's sad for both women that they are overweight, not because of appearances, but for the sake of their health.  I was only slightly overweight, (and probably pre-diabetic), when I developed a rare disease called necrobiosis lipoidica diabeticorum, (NLD), that, twice, nearly cost my life, (due to complications).  So I can only imagine the risks they are taking in keeping the weight on.

 

     However, the mere fact that they have reached out to Dr Phil shows a desire for change.  I doubt that anyone decides to become overweight, even if it happens.  I applaud their courage in allowing others to hopefully benefit from their stories.

 

     The woman who wants to model has such a beautiful face and looks tall enough to do it.  Why not?  (Actually, I think both ladies have such pretty faces.)  Lets hope Dr Phil can steer them towards better health.

 

     The show hasn't aired in my area, so I reserve judgement about the boyfriends and family.  I know from firsthand experience, that it is not easy on family members when one is ill - and obesity as severe as 650-plus is dibilitating, no doubt. 

This is one of the nicer replies I have read.  Thank you for not judging these ladies.  I have never been overweight, never lived with an abusive spouse, or suffered from debilitating low self-esteem; AND I NEVER WISH TO. I can't even imagine the feelings of helplessness the average person feels living like this - but I do understand (somewhat) what Lorna feels - she is my Aunt .  This subject infuriates me to the point that I have posted three replies already ( and the show hasn't even aired yet).  In order for a person to feel they are worthy of good things - they need to be told.  If you do not tell someone they are great, how do they now it ?  These ladies need to be told that they ARE worthy of good things - and that they DO deserve to be happy.  It's the people who abuse and ridicule that are the ones with the real problem.  These people are miserable with their own lives, and therefore feel the need to make everyone else around them miserable.

 

 
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May 3, 2007, 9:28 am PDT

"GET REAL"

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I am so sure like it costs so much to buy some bananas or some healthy cereal instead of sugar ceral etc. How about lettuce boy that's an expensive. Last time I checked twinkies cost more than bananas  and lettuce. As Dr. Phil would say get real!

You are abviously a perfect size 3 person who has no clue about reality.  Yes bananas are 50 cents a pound.  And last time I checked twinkies ARE  more expensive than lettuce but what is the shelf life on the stuff?!!  For a person on a fixed income to grocery shop, they go once a month or once every couple of weeks.  To spend $200.00 on the 1st of the month on healthy foods and good choices is great, but by the 7th of that month everything fresh is rotten.  Grow up and quit judging people on your perfect standards! 

 
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May 3, 2007, 9:36 am PDT

HMMM dont get it

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Lorna feels forgotten because she has been forgotten - plain and simple - if a person is different in any way their feelings don't count - we are nothing
 I just like to ask you one question ...do you know Lorna? ...plan and simple
 
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May 3, 2007, 9:39 am PDT

banana's and twinkies

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I am so sure like it costs so much to buy some bananas or some healthy cereal instead of sugar ceral etc. How about lettuce boy that's an expensive. Last time I checked twinkies cost more than bananas  and lettuce. As Dr. Phil would say get real!
   I have to agree  with dorapug ...I wish we all could be size 3 and live in your world...
 
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May 3, 2007, 10:42 am PDT

dont make them meals?????

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These people need to get off their chairs and get motivated! I'm sick of people crying about how fat they are. Changing you lifestyle isn't easy it takes hard work. Their is no cure for what they are going through stop eating the grease, fat etc. Family members also need to stop making meals for these people. they are enablers.
  I can't believe you said that ...... get a clue.... your solution for obeseity is for people to "stop making them meals"...it is people like you that do all the finger pointing and laughing that have no idea what it's like ..I sure hope no one in you family ever becomes obese ....I'm afraid you might just starve them to death..so you can live in a perfectly motivated skinny world....
 
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