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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 08:18:46 am
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This board is for anyone who desires friendship & Weight Loss Support utilizing Dr. Phil's 7 Keys to Success.

 

We strive to provide loving support without being judgmental to others.

 

We all understand that there are events in our lives that can have an effect on our emotional eating. You can discuss that here should you so desire.



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August 4, 2005, 6:18 am PDT

Feelings Stuff

"You make the choices that create your emotional state."

 

"food has a stabilizing effect on mood and mental functioning."

 

"A vicious cycle ensues."  tell me about it!

 

"Unchecked emotional pain sucks the pleasure out of life."

 

50% of all overweight people use food to cope with depression, anger, stress, and other emotions. Are you an emotional eater? 

 

Well lets see I scored 48 out of 50 on the test. Yep, that makes me an emotional eater.

 

This is an important key. Emotions are stronger than anything else.  Stronger than thoughts and stronger than will. When they come in they push everything else out of the way. They are the big boy in the room. Thats why it is important to have positive ones.

 

Love is stronger than anything else. This is why love makes you such a great giver. People give without any thought of themselves or the future especially to children. They are easy to love.

 

But with weight we are talking negative emotions. Emotions do start with a thought and it is those I need to correct. I look at a group of people laughing and I think they are laughing at me so I am shamed or embarrassed. Or someone says something rude to me and I think he should not have said that cause it hurt and I get angry at him.  For me these negative emotions and a lot more add up to a situation I relieve with food. Food is the remedy I chose to heal my feelings.

 

Only it doesn't work anymore. And it created new problems.

 

Joe.

 
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August 4, 2005, 6:44 am PDT

Good morning all

I am just getting my day started but I wanted to come in and say good morning and goodnight. Today;s discussion should be a good one, and thanks Joe for getting it started. I will be back shortly to join in, in the meantime whomever is here, please keep the discussion going.

 

Hugs,

Ladean

Ps...Will be back after reading back posts..HUGS

 
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August 4, 2005, 6:48 am PDT

VARIOUS RESPONSES

  • Lyn - enjoy your trip to Sidney and be safe!
  • Annaaubby - my sister's name is Donna - we are glad to have you with us here.  Please come during the good times as well as the bad.
  • Heather - you are always part of "everybody"!  If you go running, get yourself one of those athletic contraptions - LOL!
  • Shelley - I think a cheat day can be okay just as long as we don't go so far overboard that we blow the hard work we've done during the week.
  • Renee - I was ready to send out a search party for you!  Do try and find some time just for you - that's an extremely heavy workload you've been doing.
  • Barbara - hoping the boss will be out some today so that you can participate in our discussion.  If not, see ya later today!
  • Lainie -  Cilantro - I think it is part of the parsley family, but has a much stronger and unique flavor.  I find it in my grocery store next to the fresh parsley.  But then, I live right here on the Mexican border and find everything I need for preparing Mexican food.  The salsa can be made without it.
  • Tracy - we've missed you too and look forward to spending more time with you soon!

 

Hugs to all!

 

Sharon

 
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August 4, 2005, 6:56 am PDT

JOE

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"You make the choices that create your emotional state."

 

"food has a stabilizing effect on mood and mental functioning."

 

"A vicious cycle ensues."  tell me about it!

 

"Unchecked emotional pain sucks the pleasure out of life."

 

50% of all overweight people use food to cope with depression, anger, stress, and other emotions. Are you an emotional eater? 

 

Well lets see I scored 48 out of 50 on the test. Yep, that makes me an emotional eater.

 

This is an important key. Emotions are stronger than anything else.  Stronger than thoughts and stronger than will. When they come in they push everything else out of the way. They are the big boy in the room. Thats why it is important to have positive ones.

 

Love is stronger than anything else. This is why love makes you such a great giver. People give without any thought of themselves or the future especially to children. They are easy to love.

 

But with weight we are talking negative emotions. Emotions do start with a thought and it is those I need to correct. I look at a group of people laughing and I think they are laughing at me so I am shamed or embarrassed. Or someone says something rude to me and I think he should not have said that cause it hurt and I get angry at him.  For me these negative emotions and a lot more add up to a situation I relieve with food. Food is the remedy I chose to heal my feelings.

 

Only it doesn't work anymore. And it created new problems.

 

Joe.

I too struggle with being an emotional eater.  You are right - emotions are very powerful and it is often necessary to be constantly mindful of how they affect us.

 

One thing I've realized is - so what if people are laughing at me - it's not the end of the world.  And, that certainly eliminates them from the pleasure of my friendship.  Perhaps that sounds a bit arrogant, but it's certainly better than withering away in a corner feeling sorry for myself.  I do have a more difficult time if a rude comment is directed at me.  However, I have also learned that there are times when being rude was not their intention.  Being an extra sensitive person, I can easily interpret something someone says to me as being rude and hurtful.  Every day I get better about that.  When it happens I work to convince myself that I did not deserve the hurtful comment and will forgive the person who is not intelligent enough or sensitive enough to realize what they are doing and saying.  Sometimes I respond and sometimes I decide it just isn't worth the effort.

 

Hugs,

 

Sharon

 
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August 4, 2005, 6:57 am PDT

LADEAN

Good Morning friend! 

 

I'm off to do my IE and have my breakfast and then I will return for more of the discussion.

 

Hugs,

 

Sharon

 
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August 4, 2005, 7:06 am PDT

Connie

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Do you like salsa?? Tonight I had grilled chicken breast topped with salsa and fat free cheese melted on it....delicious....if you like salsa that isConnie
 Sounds GOOD!!  Will have to try it.
I had baked chicken with grilling rub, fresh mushrooms, red and green peppers, capers, a little evoo on top, and garlic powder.
It tasted really good.  Made enough for two more meals.

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August 4, 2005, 7:15 am PDT

My Mother (very negative)

She is the source of most of my emotional pain and problems I have in life. She is a disgusting piece of work. When I was very young she tried to kill me many times and later just used verbal and emotional abuse. She had to settle for destroying my life. Now I find myself always in situations I cannot cope with cause I never developed the skill as a child. I can trace almost all my problems right back to her. Negative thoughts, negative feelings, no self esteem, self doubt. When I was young I begged my father to send me to military school to get away from her but he would not.

 

It is hard to believe if you have not experienced it. She used to hit me in the face to make me stop crying. I listened to that Dr, Phil show the other day and they talked of holding little children under water until they stopped emotional outbursts. I know I get anxiety attacks  around water and thought perhaps my mother did it to me and this may be why. To stop me from crying as a baby.

 

My mother is the source of most of the negative emotions in my life now. This is why I bring it up. I try to understand her and do a little but not enough.

 

1. she relies on denial as a defense against any criticism at all of her behavior and so never changes at all.

 

2. she is controlling in the extreme and decides what will be done and tries to enforce it on everyone around her and will cling to it for weeks or months. up to killing herself to make others do what she wants. Or the children. ( I am sorry for my father now). That is exact!

 

3. she wants no boundaries between her and the people in her family. She insists on knowing everything we do , who we meet, what was said, and what we think. She listens to phone conversations, opens mail, and listens at the door. Any attempt at privacy or to exclude her is met with fierce resistance.

 

4. she constantly tries to anger men in her family. She will even wake me up at night to say something smart. Meals are usually an opportunity for her to get back at or make me angry. And she is very good at it.  She tries to isolate the men from the rest of the family.

 

5. She lies a lot and it is in service of the above goals. 

 

She doesn't seem to have a life of her own and tries to suck the life out of those around her.

 

She actually works at trying to get me to feel negative emotions. Not just a little but real hard and like I said she is good at it. She will say and do just about anything to make me angry, guilty, ashamed, fearful, depressed, and stressed. I doubt anyone quite gets it.  It is not a conflict between us or some unsatisfied desire that results in this behavior. This is what she does all the time. It is how she lives. My sisters just hang up the phone on her when they don't want the trouble.

 

I am developing hypertension now as a result of her behavior.

 

When I was growing up she always had something bad to say to me. She kept a mental list of what she found out and later tried to put me down. I must have heard the message what are you doing, followed by ,you are going to fail 5000 times, when I was growing up. It is really impossible for me to forgive her or resolve my issues with her. She denies everything and attacks when she feels threatened. She treats my progress in recovery like a threat to her. People joke sometimes about this but if she thinks I am happy she will work hard to ruin it. When she senses hurt, change, stress, or vulnerability she attacks.  

 

What all this did was to waste my opportunities to develop as a child. And thus as an adult too.

 

Okay she doesn't do this all the time but 5 or 6 sessions a day does me in.

 

She is a disease, not a person.

 

Thats my mom.

 

 

 
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August 4, 2005, 7:22 am PDT

Sorry about that

But in a word my mother is impossible. I don't have the resources to deal with this. I will just get a job and move on before long.

 

Joe.

 
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August 4, 2005, 7:23 am PDT

Denial

I used to blame my weight on so many different things, like my Mom always telling me I was to fat, to my bad marriage, and I'm sure those things had some to do with it, but the biggest part I have found since reading this key, is that I was in Denial, yes I was heavy, but I looked OK in my clothes, my DH (from my now marriage) loved me no matter how I looked, so it's not soooo bad..But It wasn't until I went to the doctor and was told that I had type 2 diabetes, and all that goes with it, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, that I had my wake up call, I may have not looked all that bad, but I was killing myself slowly, and he was very direct and to the point, he said if you want to live long enough to see your grandchildren you better do something now about your weight, or they will grow up not knowing who their grandma was. I was 247 pounds..Of coarse I went home and cried and threw myself a major pity party, I went on a "diet" and lost 19 pounds, the doctor said 19 was good, but not good enough, I just couldn't do another day of the "diet I was doing" that's when I discovered Dr Phil's program, and decided it was time to GET REAL, I am happy to say that now my blood sugar is normal, as well as my cholesterol and blood pressure. I am NOT in denial anymore, I know what eating bad can do to me, and I WILL live to see my grand children and great grand children be born...This is a key I think I will have to work on for a very long time, I have so many of these Issues it's scary.

 

Hugs,

Ladean

 
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August 4, 2005, 7:43 am PDT

Emotional eating

I too am an emotional eater. I can trace it back as far as I have knowledge of. It started with my great grand mother and right on down the line. Food in our family has always been used as comfort for the rough times and rewards for the good times. Since starting the good Dr's program I am learning how to change my and my family's response to food. We don't allow food to be part of rewards or comfort. We use small monetary or material things as rewards and we use conversation or writting as a means to deal with the rough times. It has been a very slow process to chanbe the behaviors that have been embedded in our family for generations, But I am proud to say we are winning the battle. We have even taken cake out of the adult birtday celebrations and have replaced it with a favorite seasonal fruit parfait for the party.

 

I look forward to reading how other people are coping with their emotional eating issues.

 

Hugs, Tracy

 
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