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Topic : 05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:10:02 pm
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Dr. Phil follows up with the complicated and twisted story of Jennifer and her husband, Jeffrey. He is so obsessed with his wife, he goes to extreme measures to spy on her and keep her under his control. After the last show, Jeffrey chose to seek help at Creative Care in California, while Jennifer headed home. See what private investigators found when they did a sweep of Jennifer's house upon her return. After being in rehab for two weeks and not complying with the rules, Jeffrey receives an ultimatum from the staff at Creative Care. When Jennifer learns the news, she breaks down and shares her thoughts in a video diary. Jeffrey gets re-motivated and stays in treatment, but does his obsessive jealousy end? Afraid for her safety and ready to end the marriage, Jennifer meets with an attorney to find out what rights she has. Then, Dr. Khaleghi, director of Creative Care, has a startling message for Jennifer and reveals why he doesn't believe Jeffrey is ready to see her. And, Jeffrey joins Dr. Phil onstage to share his progress. Is he giving 110 percent like he committed to in the last show or has he been up to his old tricks? Will Jeffrey decide to return to treatment, or give in to his anxieties and return home? Talk about the show here.

Find out what happened on the show.

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May 10, 2007, 12:25 pm PDT

wow

I would like to say that yes this guy is nuts and yes, should be in treatment,  however..... It takes 2!!!! She is at least partly to blame for the state of their marriage. Her constant cheating and flirting doesn't make for a good relationship. Should this guy get another chance... NO!!! But I would like to also say that she keeps saying how abusive he is... Well, honey, as someone who was in an abusive relationship for 8 years, let me tell you, if you are afraid of that person you DO NOT stand up to them or talk to them like she has or be online with the things she has and you sure don't have an affair if you are TRUELY afraid of that person. So, sorry, but I find it hard to believe that she is afraid. I was and I wouldn't have dreamed of doing or saying the things she has.

Also, could either of them be more fake.... I see all the "crying" but where are the tears?

 
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May 10, 2007, 12:27 pm PDT

some tips that can be found right online

for those looking for advice on getting away safely here is a web site & an small piece of what is offered there.  There are links from this site to more advice too.  Read, read & learn how to make your plans & what your rights are. 

 

 

http://www.womenslaw.org/safety3.htm

 

General Guidelines for Leaving an Abusive Relationship

  • Make a plan for how you are going to leave and where you're going to go. Make a plan for leaving if you have time to prepare. Make another plan for leaving if you have to leave in a hurry.
  • A worker at a domestic violence organization can help you make a plan to leave as safely as you can. Also, Leaving Abuse Safely (www.leavingabuse.com) can help you think of ways to leave safely.
  • If you're going to leave secretly, plan ahead and cover your tracks. A domestic violence worker and Leaving Abuse Safely (www.leavingabuse.com) can help you come up with plan.
  • You can ask the police to escort you out of the house as you're leaving. You can also ask them to be "on call" while you're leaving.
  • Put aside as much emergency money as you can.
  • Hide an extra set of car keys in a place you can get to easily.
  • Get a bag together with:
    • spare car keys;
    • your driver's license;
    • a list of your credit cards so that you can track any activity on them;
    • money;
    • phone numbers for friends, relatives, doctors, schools, taxi services, and your local domestic violence organization;
    • a change of clothing for you and your children;
    • medication that you or your children usually take;
    • copies of your children's birth certificates, social security cards, school records and immunizations;
    • copies of legal documents for you and your abuser. This may include social security cards, passports, greencards, medical records, insurance information, birth certificates, marriage license, wills, and welfare identification information;
    • copies of financial documents for you and your abuser. This may include pay stubs, bank account information, a list of credit cards you hold by yourself or together with your abuser;
    • the evidence you've been collecting to show that you've been abused; and
    • a few things you want to keep, like photographs, jewelry or other personal items.

Hide this bag somewhere he will not find it. Try to keep it at a trusted friend or neighbor's house. Avoid using next-door neighbors, close family members, or mutual friends. Your abuser might be more likely to find it there.

If you're in an emergency and need to get out right away, don't worry about gathering these things. While they're helpful to have, getting out safely should come first.

As you are leaving

  • As you're leaving, grab the bag you hid, your driver's license, any checkbooks, and credit cards if you can. If there's time, take the originals of documents you might need - like birth certificates, social security cards, legal documents and financial documents.

    If you're in an emergency and need to get out right away, don't worry about gathering these things. While they're helpful to have, getting out safely should come first.

  • Create a false trail. Call motels, real estate agencies, and schools in a town at least six hours away from where you plan to go. Ask them questions that will need to be answered by them calling you back. Give them your old phone number.

  • Leave when your abuser will least expect it. This will give you more time to get away before your abuser realizes you are gone.
 
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May 10, 2007, 12:33 pm PDT

I Don't Think So

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HUHHHHHHHHHHHH? Did you even watch the show?

 

I was with you when the previews were shown for the FIRST show. I thought it was about an adulterous spouse and a now jealous husband.

 

What it TURNED OUT TO BE has nothing to do with adultry. This is a sick man who chose a young woman (age 19...he was in his 30's). This was not by accident. He needed someone he could control. He not only controls her, he's obsessed with her 24/7 and DANGEROUS. He is SICK.

 

There is NEVER an excuse for adultry; however, this man's obsession and controlling, scary behavior would have occurred even if this woman were a perfect angel. He's THAT bad!!!! One is not sick due to a spouse's adultry. One is sick because one has mental problems!!!

No, I don't think the person who wrote the post did see the show.  I cannot see how anyone could have and still blame the wife here.  As I said when the first show was on, this man is dangerous.  She will have to get the children and get away from him.  I thought your message was right on target.
 

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May 10, 2007, 12:36 pm PDT

Wow is right

She should be ashamed of herself. She's putting all the blame onnhim when she has played a significant role in this situation. They are both sick and need help, her just as much as him.
 
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May 10, 2007, 12:36 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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Ok, obvioulsy I must have missed something.  I have watched Thursday's and Friday's shows about Jefferey and Jennifer.  My husband and I are shouting at the tv "What the heck?!  Why isn't Dr. Phil calling her on the affairs?!"  (Our daughter says we get too involved. lol ) Is there a show we missed?  If we didn't miss anything, then I don't get it.  Why isn't Dr. Phil asking her why she's at a bar until 2:00 a.m.????  Why is she asking for pictures of some guy's butt????  These aren't going to make a husband feel cozy!  When she said she couldn't believe how out of control Jefferey was when he came home and found her cheating on him, my husband and I screamed "DUH!!!!" What are we missing?!

My husband and I agree with your point .... however, despite her ignorance - man did this guy go overboard, reason or not.  But yes, she is getting over looked in the bases of the problem because she even said before her bull there life was fine....she set whatever was lingering in him off- way off!!!!  But my hubby and I are the same....As a general comment  not totally referring to this episode but all the ones in the past- Dr.Phil you always take the womans' side no matter what she has done on her end.........thats just not right!

 
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May 10, 2007, 12:37 pm PDT

What a shame

I hope that Jennifer reads everybody's comments and sticks to staying away from him. it's horrible for the children not only to be stuck in a situation like this but it's even worse when the mother continues to go back thinking he's better or things will change.

My mom put up with a similar situation for 15 years, 10 yrs before I was born and then 5 after that.. in the 10 years before I was born she went back 4 times because she didn't have anything but what he gave but after I was 5 and she saw how it was damaging me she left for good.. it still took years to overcome the emotional damage he had put on both of us.. get out as soon as you can, sometimes children are better off with out the father no matter how good he is too them.. when they grow up they will understand and I hope Jennifer is smart enough to take dr. phils help and never go back.. it's 100% more than what most women in the same situation are offered

 
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May 10, 2007, 12:43 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

He is going to end up killing her.
 
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May 10, 2007, 12:46 pm PDT

Nor I

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I've noticed a few of you saying that the children are being neglected. Do I agree? Well, yes and no. Jennifer seems to have done everything in her power to take care of those kids. She also says in the follow up that she and the kids are now able to bond because no one is living in constant fear and distress. I really have to give her kudos for going through with the divorce. She's being the adult and the parent and getting those babies out of that situation. I can't praise her enough for that!

I have to give her a lot of credit as well.  This lady needs encouragement, not critics.  I read the summary of this show, but have not seen it yet.  When I saw the first show, all my instincts told me this guy was a real fruit loop.  Then I saw how dangerous he seemed to be capable of being.  I really don't care at this point if she had affairs.  Nothing makes her or the children deserve this kind of danger.  We should all be encouraging her and applauding her courage.
 
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May 10, 2007, 12:46 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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My husband and I agree with your point .... however, despite her ignorance - man did this guy go overboard, reason or not.  But yes, she is getting over looked in the bases of the problem because she even said before her bull there life was fine....she set whatever was lingering in him off- way off!!!!  But my hubby and I are the same....As a general comment  not totally referring to this episode but all the ones in the past- Dr.Phil you always take the womans' side no matter what she has done on her end.........thats just not right!

Although, I answered before in the end this guy is just plain SICK!!!  Everything that led up to this moment for them may still be a moment ifor her it continues.
 
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May 10, 2007, 12:47 pm PDT

some times we just don't see the door:)

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Yeah, my biggest worry is that he'll flip out when I leave...plus he'll report my car stolen since it's in his name (even though I purchased it with my 401K back when I was working). I don't really have a support system (as far as family and such) so that makes this all the more difficult, but I WILL find a way to get out and move on with my life...no matter how scared I am. He isn't physical but he has been in the past...which tells me he is capable. He just plays a lot of mind games and puts me down all of the time...or gives the silent treatment (and the tension just builds and builds which tells me he's going to blow again and start yelling and accusing me of affairs and telling me to leave only to keep me from my vehicle or any resources in order to leave). I just hope I can deal with the stress because it's bad enough as it is. God will give me the strength. Right? Right. He's been there for me thus far even though He hasn't shown me the door out yet....Maybe you are one of his angels. I think you are. Thank you very much!!!!!

and that's not to "blame you" but just to say that maybe it hasn't been the right time for you to "see the door".  Maybe you coming here and hearing others speak and or being supplied with information is the building of strenght that you'll need when you are ready.  Does that make sense for you?  That maybe you need to take in the information of "safety steps, who to contact & how to make your plan" and for that to sit with you for when the moment comes that you think "that's it" or maybe you'll impliment just a couple of things to help set things up like keeping track of the incidents & or making a contact that knows what's hapening who can watch for a sign from you if there is an emergency.   Perhaps if you just set up a couple of the things in case of an emergency the door will just present itself & you'll find your strenght is just there.  I know these probably just sound like words but know that there are a lot of people who hear you and that do care. 
 
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