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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 12, 2007, 2:28 pm PDT

'TIL DEATH DO US PART

Dr. Phil,

 

You are a very smart man and just about everything you say is, to me, gospel.  Do you not realize that Jeffrey will do everything in his power to make his "TIL DEATH DO US PART" vow come true?  Do what you can (probably not with legal assistance) to get Jennifer and her children away from him, like disappear totally.  That man will NEVER leave her alone, he is not stable, and when he totally cracks, which isn't far away, he's very capable of carrying out that death vow.

 

Why in the heck are you using Jennifer as a tool to keep him communicating?  She can change her telephone number, cell phone number, relocate, change passwords...you get it?  Just please get her and her children away from him, like those people who change their names and everything about them so that others can't track them.

 

This is one of the most disturbing Dr. Phil shows I've seen and I see all shows.  There is such danger lurking with his behavior.  I sure hope you can use your powers and make her and her children SAFELY DISAPPEAR...PLEASE!!!

 
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May 12, 2007, 2:33 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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These people are BOTH insane! Those children need to be temporarily placed in a safe, loving environment. All they've seen in their short, unhappy lives is drama, fighting and mental illness from BOTH parents. I believe a treatment facility for Jennifer wouldn't be a bad idea. She has some issues to overcome. It's too late for Jeffery. He needs to rot in jail because he's never going to leave her alone. These situations are SO common. They never end well. Someone always dies. I hope it's not the children! I will definitely be praying for them.

I agree that both parents have work to do on their lives but I don't think that Jennifer is a threat to her children.  Why in the heck she puts herself in situations involving other men when she is dealing with Jeffrey's "TIL DEATH DO US PART" crazed mentality is beyond me.

 

She better live like a nun until she can get away from him and, hopefully, she will get rid of that ridiculous myspace site.  I wonder if that is her passive agressive way of teasing him.  I'm just afraid it might backfire on her.

 

People have the misconception that the law will protect them and that is just such a false sense of security.  Very few times does the law have enough authority to protect until AFTER it is too late.

 
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May 12, 2007, 2:33 pm PDT

Right on

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Does anyone else feel like this was  very one sided for the sake of ratings?? Yes, I totally agree that Jeffery has a few screws loose, but what about Jennifer? Why is she portrayed as the innocent victim in all of this? Lets look at this from Jeffery's point of view for just a minute. You fall in love with and marry a beautiful woman. Shortly after you get married you go out of town on bussiness and call home to find out that your new wife is having an affair with a man in your house, in your bed!! Then they all call Jeffery crazy for driving all of the way home and kicking this man's butt out of his house?? Jeffery constantly finds men's phone numbers and notes, but he is not supposed to be looking?? Was it not Dr. Phil that told a cheating husband a while back that if he wanted the marriage to work after his affair he would have to lay everything out on the table for a while? He would have to be an open book about where he goes, who he is with, who he talks to, etc. Why does this same philosophy not apply to Jennifer? And why was her cheating just cast aside as no big deal? Out of 3 hours worth of shows, not one discussion about her cheating? And in the end she is crying and scared and goes into hiding at her mom's house. She was so upset and scared for her life that while in "hiding" she goes off partying with her friends and has pictures taken of her hugged up to man and posted on the web site? Come on!! And furthermore, this abused woman was never hit, kicked, or even threatened by her husband. My best friend was abused and it is no joke. Her husband would threaten to kill her and when she divorced him, for the first 6 months she was so affraid he would find her that she would barely leave the house, let alone go off partying with men and having their pictures flashed together all over the world wide web!! The Dr. Phil show molded this story into what it needed to be for high ratings!!

 
I do. I am a woman and I felt the same about the show... very one-sided. I totally don't understand why she was portrayed ONLY as the (innocent!?) victim and not prompted to take any responsibility in her department. Why wasn't that adressed and was made OK? Is this supposed to help her mature, be responsibe for the sake of the children she is now in charge of, to focus on and provide for?  How much injustice this man must have felt! No wonder he didn't want to have anything to do with the show from one point. He IS awfully controlling but he had part of his brain functioning. Whereas it's clear there were other factors, this one I see as logical. How could he trust these people?

I understand the scope of the show. But the overwhelming number of messages addressing the other side just shows how the show stirred ratings but failed its scope (other than helping this woman transit from an economically comfortable life to another since so much legal ammunition has been gathered against this emotionally abusive husband DURING the show).  Quite francly, this woman enjoyed a lot of freedom on her obsessed hubby's money and she taunted him to his wits... while being physically rather safe.

I think that if the show wanted to really make the point that tried to make, it chose a poor example and handled things poorly, in this woman's advantage only and not with fairness for both sides. How many trustworthy, dedicated wives and mothers out there are severely abused and have their life in danger and have nowhere to go?... we know why this show was made like this. The problem is, this is a situation where she could have gotten out of. She could have just packed, leaved to her mother (as she did). But that would have not gotten her the free legal help, money to party, money from people, etc.

I mean, we are adults. Are we expected to not have a critical view of this dynamic? Are we supposed to just say, "I will accept the point of view, he is the only one at fault, it's all his doing, etc, etc" especially when in other shows cheaters are faced with a "life sentence" of telling about their whereabouts, become aware that they canot be trusted, etc... these being men, or lose the battle? Heloooo!

BTW, this is not about bashing the emotionally abused wife. It's about being fair. I am not saying he is a victim, but I didn't see him violent either. I am suspicious about him perhaps being "tempted and enabled" during the show process by some. Now there is enough evidence for the wife to take to court. Well, I am not saying it's not somewhat fair. But I hope people will stop giving her money. It's her turn to GO OUT TO WORK and provide for her family, now that hubby is not only out of the house but in jail. Irrational hubby enabled her to be frivolous, kept on cathing her and didn't leave her. He stayed put and wanted to know more, tormented himself and her. I hope Dr. Phil will stop taking over the hubby's job in terms of enabling and staying put, other than with the legal and psychological help she needs. I don't want to see more of these two people, It's the law infrocment's job from now on.

Dr. Phil needs to move on and help another woman/man. A responsible one this time.
 
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May 12, 2007, 2:35 pm PDT

Get away from him!

I wonder why Dr. Phil's staff allowed Jennifer to return home with no security personnel accompanying her? I *knew* he would be in that house waiting for her. She is lucky to be alive. I would not continue to live in that house, either. Sell it... and move somewhere else so he has no idea where you are!
 
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May 12, 2007, 2:43 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I think all the 'cheating' talk was from him and the result of his mental breakdown.  This man is not living in the real world.  He is creating his own little world and has no idea of what reality is and how crazy he appears.  He has put his wife through hell and I am sure his children have suffered because of his unhinged behavior.

Did you see the pictures of JENNIFER on her myspace site that JENNIFER put there?

 

Did you see the picture of JENNIFER hugging someone she just barely met?

 

Did you hear of the messages to JENNIFER from other men?

 

Did you hear that JENNIFER went to bars while he stayed home and got home long after the bars closed?

 

When you are dealing with a psycho-crazed husband like Jeffrey, why in the heck would you want to be so stupid!.  I wonder if she doesn't have some sick need to antagonize him.  If "I" were truly scared for my safety (and she better be), I'd sure keep a low profile until I could get out (and I would find a way to get out).

 

If she doesn't get some therapy for herself, my guess is that she will get back into a similar situation in the future.  There's just something left out about JENNIFER because the focus is so much on Jeffrey.

 
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May 12, 2007, 2:43 pm PDT

Jeffrey needs help

Jeffrey is in need of serious help.  He should understand he blew it with his wife who must be totally exasperated by his behavior.  The guy needs to move on because it's evident this marriage is over!
 
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May 12, 2007, 2:45 pm PDT

It's over

No matter who is right and who is wrong, she WANTS OUT. I don't care if she had multiple affairs, he has no  right to lock her up. He has very  serious problems and just doesn't get it. Jail might be the best thing for him.  He might hurt her, or she might feel her life threatened and kill him.
 
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May 12, 2007, 2:50 pm PDT

One problem

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Does anyone else feel like this was  very one sided for the sake of ratings?? Yes, I totally agree that Jeffery has a few screws loose, but what about Jennifer? Why is she portrayed as the innocent victim in all of this? Lets look at this from Jeffery's point of view for just a minute. You fall in love with and marry a beautiful woman. Shortly after you get married you go out of town on bussiness and call home to find out that your new wife is having an affair with a man in your house, in your bed!! Then they all call Jeffery crazy for driving all of the way home and kicking this man's butt out of his house?? Jeffery constantly finds men's phone numbers and notes, but he is not supposed to be looking?? Was it not Dr. Phil that told a cheating husband a while back that if he wanted the marriage to work after his affair he would have to lay everything out on the table for a while? He would have to be an open book about where he goes, who he is with, who he talks to, etc. Why does this same philosophy not apply to Jennifer? And why was her cheating just cast aside as no big deal? Out of 3 hours worth of shows, not one discussion about her cheating? And in the end she is crying and scared and goes into hiding at her mom's house. She was so upset and scared for her life that while in "hiding" she goes off partying with her friends and has pictures taken of her hugged up to man and posted on the web site? Come on!! And furthermore, this abused woman was never hit, kicked, or even threatened by her husband. My best friend was abused and it is no joke. Her husband would threaten to kill her and when she divorced him, for the first 6 months she was so affraid he would find her that she would barely leave the house, let alone go off partying with men and having their pictures flashed together all over the world wide web!! The Dr. Phil show molded this story into what it needed to be for high ratings!!

 Your scenario isn't what happened at all.

God forgive people for being so willfully ...wrong.
 

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May 12, 2007, 2:51 pm PDT

odd decisions

I just don't understand the decisions she's made.  Abused people learn quickly to take every threat seriously and not to do anything that will arouse anger.  So why in the world would she ever allow anyone to take a picture of her leaning up against a man who isn't her husband?  Why was she standing so close in the pictures?  When she found out that her husband was on the way back to Virginia, why didn't she have someone remove the children from the home immediately?  Why didn't she block his calls?  Why didn't she unplug the phone?  Why didn't she change her email or password?  Why did her mother take his calls?   Why in God's name did she have a personal website featuring photos of her in a bathing suit?  I'm just stunned.  This is a woman whose life may be in danger, whose children's lives may be in danger, and she's making unbelievably destructive choices.  Granted, the decision to not block the calls isn't destructive, but it might have helped her calm her nerves.
 
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May 12, 2007, 3:19 pm PDT

He did help

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Couldn't Dr. Phil have provided Jennifer with a private plane to get her back home ahead of Jeffrey rather than make her go through all the stress of getting to the airport, getting on a plane and having to sit with passengers who have no idea what she is going through.  I can't imagine her fear of the unknown while she was sitting scared to death that he would be there when she got home.  And then to have to go in and face him alone (with her kids there).  Weren't they supposed to be watched by a babysitter who told Jennifer she would do what she had to to protect her children.  What was up with that.  Couldn't Dr. Phil have provided some protection for her.  It was like he put her on this show in front of millions of viewers and offered to help her start a new life and help her get a divorce by hiring a lawyer for her.  Why couldn't he have gone a little further and provided her with some type of bodyguard.  She could have walked in and gotten shot right then and there by this crazy man.  It's very generous of Dr. Phil to offer to help her so far but he should go the distance and protect her more now that all this publicity has gotten Jeffrey more crazy.

He did say that when she was home that her lawyer would have security stay there with her somehow...  I'd have to rewatch it, but I know that he did say he was providing security for her when she got home...

 

Sorry, she's doing more than what is being admitted, I still stick by that, and the person that wrote and said she's using Dr. Phil, you're right on too...  she obviously knows how he works and would do anything to protect her and the kids...  She saw a free divorce and free other things coming, otherwise, why didn't she leave long time ago?  She can't be that friggin stupid to know she couldn't get the cops there and get a restraining order before....  as Dr. Phil says... COME ON...

 

The guy is a total control freak and a wacko too... I know I wouldn't be with him, but she's no angel in this situation!!!

 
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