Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

 Hey all,

Locking Jeff away and throwing away the key is not the answer to this!  I've told Jeff that I am willing to stand at the door and follow him to make sure he stays in treatment!  He does have a hearing on the 23rd of May to let you all know.  He does want to get better!  He needs hospital help, not jail! 

We heard Jeffery was a patient at Creative Care. Under HIPPA Guidelines they cannot discuss his medical condition unless Jeffery gives them a signed contract letting them release information at his discretion. Medical History is private. (Even if Dr. Phil has paid for his treatment that information can not be given out). 

Creative Care is a inhouse treatment facility.  Jeffery had approximately 21 days of care. During that time Jeffery admitted to manipulating his way thru the program.   Who can really put a time frame a person should stay in a facility for people who are struggling in a mental capacity. In the state I live in. If you are deemed unstable mentally, you must go thru an outpatient behavioral health facility.  If you are at risk of hurting yourself you are sent to a state facility for a period of 3 days for observation. The most you can stay in a facility is 30 days.  Those who stay 30 days usually return within weeks. Or end up in Jail.  We have a major crisis on our hands. 

 Dr. Phil paid for Jeffery's treatment.  Creative Care was gracious to take Jeffery. It was not Creative Care's fault that he left. Jeffery went on his own free will. But what I am interested to find out, I would like to know how long a patient stays at their facility on average and their sucess rates.

My concern is, what kind of facility gives their patients access to the internet and phones. Usually Internet and phones contribute to mental instabilities.(Just like Drugs and Alcohol.)

Now Jeffery is among the jail population and hopefully he will be getting some kind of treatment while he is there.  

It seems strange to me that when she was in Iowa with her mother she would go out on the town, cuddle up to some guy she met five minutes before and have her picture taken.  And what about those friends of hers?  Putting the pictures on the internet?  How old are these people?  They act like teen-agers.

That is what I didn't understand. She looked like she had known the guy forever and they were as happy as could be. Maybe she has been doing things that drove Jeffrey over the edge. I don't know but he is crazy. Taking things out of her underwear drawer... too weird for me and I do think he would kill her if she got with someone else. JMO he is passed nuts.

golfher

Just to give some of you an FYI why Jenn accepted Jeffery's phone calls. She accepted them from him so he wouldn't go  off the deep end.  Dr. Phil asked her NOT to file for divorce in a previous show. So she honored what he had asked. She accepted his calls to keep him from leaving Creative Care. If she would have not taken the calls, he would been on the next plane home and she could be dead today. Why didn't she just change her phone number? ( Well why should she have to change her phone number because of his control issues.} By her talking to him she knows where he is at and possibly feels safe. ( I know from experience!) 

Why did Jenn go to IOWA? She went to IOWA because that is where her family is. $200 is not a lot of money when you have to pick up and run.  This man knows every little thing about her. So he knew where she was going because he had access to all bank records and phone records. Cell phones can be traced!! He knows if something was to go wrong that she would go to her family. 

If there was a special organization in place to hide victims of domestic violence for long periods of time, she wouldn't have been so predictible.  This case helps us think more long term for victims of domestic violence. Now we need to learn how to protect our loved ones that are being abused, whether its men, women or children.  A protective order is only a piece of paper showing that a person is to stay away from another.  Only by reporting to the authorities is a violation placed on these offenders. Victims have no way of protecting themselves without using force.  We must urge Congress to look at the laws against Domestic Violence. We must put our foot down and make stiff penalties against those who abuse others. Violators of Protective orders are usually given fines, suspended or defered sentences on first violation.  2nd or subsequent violations is a high fine or small jail time. VIOLATERS MUST BE TAUGHT A LESSON SO THIS WILL NOT BE REPEATED.   NO MORE VICTIMS!!!

  I was wondering the exact same thing!   Also, if Jeffrey is bothering her so much, why is she answerin the phone and adding fuel to the fire?  Better yet, why doesn't she just change her phone number????  And what about this party that she went to where she met a guy and five minutes later took a picture with him only to have the picture on the internet?  Seems like she wants to egg her jusband on.

Terri how do you know we don't know what we are talking about.  I was married to a Sheriff with a gun.  I was 18 and terrified that he would kill me and then himself. He beat me and emotionally abused me.  I was trapped with no money, but I GOT OUT.  When he was at work I signed up at a secretarial school and they gave me a loan because I told them my situation. When I graduated they got me a job and I left and I had enough sense to take birth control and not make babies with this nut.

So . . . Terri don't talk about things YOU don't know about.

MJ