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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 4:39 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

Quote From: alohalori2

This guy is nuts.  He was trying so hard to orchistrate the whole show and what everyone said and did.  He wanted people to applaud him...then he wanted to have the show end with him and his wife walking hand and hand behind Dr. Phil and his wife off into the sunset...He is not in touch with reality.  I pray that Jennifer and the chldren are able to get away from Jeffery and start a new life.  He is so toxic and is not good for the chldren either.  I am divorced and was abused but not nearly to this extent.  My children still see their dad and I believe that it is very important for kids to maintain a good relationship with both parents after a divorce but not when one parent is so mentally ill.  I don't believe the kids are safe with him either.  He would do anything to hurt Jennifer.  He is not taking responsibility for his actions even now.  He keeps saying that she does things to cause him to go off the deep end.  That is rediculus.  He has NO self-control and I am glad that Jen's attorney saw how things really are.

 

Jennifer, you are very strong and you can do this.  You deserve better.  You are beautiful and life can be so much better for you.  I am so much happier and heathier now that I am no longer living with my abuser.  My situation is nothing like yours but I can see that you are made of some tough stuff and you will do fine on your own.  I pray that you recognize the strength you do have and don't let Jeffrey sweet talk you.  He won't change and he really is dangerous.  I know you probably double guess yourself and think he isn't that bad and I have done things to upset him but he should be able to control himself and he doesn't.  You are in danger, please remember that and stick to your decision to leave him. I can't beg you enough.

 

Lori

I agree.  I am so very moved by this particular program.  .First priority should be to protect Jennifer and the kids.  The man is dangerous!  This is where we need to have bars and restraints to protect members of society.  It may or may not be to late for Jeffery as he needed help long before now.  There is no EXCUSE for his actions.  Jennifer needs help too but needs to be safe first.  She seemed already "on her way" to recovery while Jeffery was at the center.

 

Jennifer, you are strong and you can do it.  My prayers are with you.

 

Anna

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:01 am PDT

I Agree

Quote From: brookster

This man is off his rocker.  If she doen't get away from him, and go into hiding, he will kill her, then commit suicide. I'm surprised that Dr Phil hasn't  put her and her children under protective custody!  I am really scared for this abused woman!

 

I too am surprised that Dr. Phil did not place them into protective custody.  I was almost in tears after the second show.  The facility in which he has been placed has obviously begun the 'dig' into his phych that has him terrified and exposed.  His instability was obvious and Jennifer is in danger (physically, she's been endangered emotionally for years).  Anyone who would go to those lenghts to spy on her (affair not withstanding, that was wrong, but irrevelant since the behavior pre-dates it) is frightening.  Dr. Phil, I know you put yourself on the line each day with your show, this is truely one of your scarier moments.  I hope she can stay safe, without you she had no chance, please take care of her.  Jeffery is very ill and can be helped, but it will take a very long time and his children don't deserve the example he is setting.  Thank you for helping them.

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:09 am PDT

Well Said

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This man is a serious threat to himself, his wife, his children, his extended family, in short he is a threat to society.  I feel it would be in the best interest of everyone, that he be detained in a mental facility indefinitely until he can pass a competency test and be certified accordingly!

I have known people with milder versions of obsession, and have been caught in the wake of devistation  created.  While uneducated or degreed in this field, I feel he is Certifiable and in multiple categories.  Will the courts step in and truly protect this woman and her children, or will he continue to cause havoc and destruction, if not death before proper action is ordered or taken?

The only compassion in this case belongs solely to the wife and children.  This man has been given numerous opportunities to correct his behavior and should now be forced to account for his bizzarre behavior! 

Dr. Phil, you are highly respected and draw from the best resources available, and as such I hope your involvement will encourage the courts to issue maximum protection orders and keep this man where he can harm no one, not even himself.

Sadly, this is but one such case.  Hopefully those who have not come forward will see your show and seek help to put an end to this sick obsessive and potentially destructive behavior.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

Jim, you have it on the nose!  I hope, as you, that others in the same situation (and I'd like to believe there aren't many to this extreme) will now come forward and save themselves and their families.  It was obvious to me, also how dangerous he could become.  In my twenty plus years in an emergency room I have seen my share of 'crazy', but he takes the cake.

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:18 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

Quote From: jody1234

I wanted to ask Dr. Phil????   when Jeffrey was "suppose" to be getting treatment, WHY WAS JENNIFER EVEN ACCEPTING CALLS FROM HIM????  I feel if this is his addition, he should have been monitored and not been able to tap into her emails, or have ANY CONTACT WITH HER WHATSOEVER!!!!  Why was that allowed and WHY did Jennifer even pick up the phone when he obsessively and abusively was calling that night??????

 

jody

Was thinking the same things as you. . .If Jeffery is in treatment why was he allowed access to a phone to make the multiple calls per day, a computer, etc.   Why did Jennfer not change phone numbers, door locks, passwords, etc too. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:19 am PDT

Only way out

  As some have stated I to believe that Jennifer had her mind made up, to leave, before the Dr. Phil show.  But, in her defense, does anyone think she had any other way out?  It's a VERY good possibility that, instead of reading about her divorce in the local paper, her name would be in the obituary.  Does anyone think he would have let her just walk away?  No way.  No PERSON has to put up with even a small amount of what Jeffery did to her.  The bad part is that she probably will have to continue to look over her shoulder the rest of her life.  I wish her all the best.
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:20 am PDT

Who said she cheated?

Quote From: sabrinaspell12

Not that what he is doing is right. it's not, but she shouldn't of cheated on him in the first place. when she made the decision to sleep with someone else she should of left than. sounds like the foolishness didn't start til she had the affairs. she also needs to get real. it takes two to make it or break it.
I never heard her admit to cheating; it was just his false accusations . . . albeit, there are problems on both ends, I certainly wouldn't believe HIM at this point on anything he says!  And for your information, it does not take two to break  a marriage.  It takes two to make it, but one person can break the vows, refuse to make things right, refuse counseling, etc.  It does NOT take two to break it!  That's a trite saying that should be thought through before using!
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:30 am PDT

She needed help to survive

Quote From: caranjamie

Of course Jeffery is a total nut case..I do not think you need to have a PhD to see that...but I think Jennifer is manipulative in her own right.  I in now way condone his behavior...but hers is questionable in the very least.

 

My take on the story:

She had no plans of staying with him the first time they appeared...it was decided wayyyyy before they got onto the show..

I have no doubt in my mind she was messing around while he was at home and even more so while in Rehab (engaging online for sure)

Has she cried so many tears..there are no more left??  I didn't see a one roll down her face today  on the show nor in the clips

Wedding ring was OFF even before she filed for divorce.

 

Do Not misunderstand me...I AM NOT SAYING Jeffery isn't WRONG...and NO ONE deserves to be treated like she has been.....BUT...she's not totally in the right either.

 

She  knew there was no hope for her marriage because of what she lived!  However without the help of this show there may not have been any hope for her life and her children!

 

None of us are totally right, NONE!!

 

There is clear cut, make no mistake, abuse here.  Please lets forget the other stuiff and focus on that!! 

 

You do not need any degrees on how to treat another human being and Jeffrey only cares about himself! 

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:32 am PDT

manipulative, how?

Quote From: caranjamie

Of course Jeffery is a total nut case..I do not think you need to have a PhD to see that...but I think Jennifer is manipulative in her own right.  I in now way condone his behavior...but hers is questionable in the very least.

 

My take on the story:

She had no plans of staying with him the first time they appeared...it was decided wayyyyy before they got onto the show..

I have no doubt in my mind she was messing around while he was at home and even more so while in Rehab (engaging online for sure)

Has she cried so many tears..there are no more left??  I didn't see a one roll down her face today  on the show nor in the clips

Wedding ring was OFF even before she filed for divorce.

 

Do Not misunderstand me...I AM NOT SAYING Jeffery isn't WRONG...and NO ONE deserves to be treated like she has been.....BUT...she's not totally in the right either.

How does that make Jen manipulative?  She's trying to get rid of a dangerous, psychotic husband.  When she went to the attorney, she didn't even know her rights or if she owned anything because she was getting legal advice from HIM. 

 

Jeff had been obsessive since right after they got married.  Wayyy before she cheated.  She cheated to get rid of him because he was a manipulative jerk and remember, HE wanted her to sleep with one of his friends.  If i were her, I would've thought about leaving this psycho a LONG-a** time ago too! 

 

She has kids to think of and their safety is a primary concern.  Jeff may decide to hurt one of them to get to Jen, sick puppy!

 

Also, I wouldn't have had an affair, because of the legal ramifications and putting any custody, alimony, or child support on the line.  I don't think that she honestly thought there was any other way to get out of it, though.  When you know better, you do better, and I don't think Jen was manipulative at all.

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:32 am PDT

Ok, I goofed

Ok, from reading the posts, I must have failed to realize she had cheated on him.  Wrong, wrong, wrong.  And, I too, agree with some of the posts who have pointed out, "where is the water from the tears."  That troubled me and I thought Dr. Phil might pick up on that.  It could be she couldn't cry real tears because she's on meds for depression or something like that.  Anyway, it's all sad, especially for the children.  To know their dad is mentally ill, and to know their mother is not all that stable either . . . what may lie ahead for them is lots of counseling.  I wish them the best.
 

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May 11, 2007, 5:33 am PDT

wow

 after seeing the first three shows with jeffery and jeniffer and reading todays summery all i can say is WOW, what a NUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!

jeffery sure takes the cake when it comes to being 'out there'.   no wonder jenifer wanted to get away and jeffery is in jail.   talk about a warped sense of reality on his part.

i am SO glad he got exposed so other women can learn and maybe breakaway after seeing all of this.

honestly i wouldn'tve blamed jeniffer if she had taken a gun and shot jeffery out of fear for her own safety (not that i condon it, just that i'd understand with an abuser like him)
 
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