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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 5:42 am PDT

Agree and disagree a little

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It is apparent to me and anyone else with an ounce of intelligence that if Jennifer cheated on him it was an act of self preservation.  This crap didn't just start because she had an affair.  I bet you if someone looks into his background they will find out that he has exhibited these behaviors in his childhood in some form or another.  He has the type of personality to have explained this bizarre behavior away.  It is so unbelievable the rational mind doesn't want to accept this kind of behavior as real and so it is quite easy to dismiss it.  If it is just now showing itself then he has gone to incredible lenths to hide it from the world.  This man is terribly disturbed.  The only problem that Jennifer has is having been incredibly niave and being taken in by this person at the beginning.  He sought out her type and took full advantage of her.  He is a predator and he always has been.  He didn't just wake up one day, discover his wife was having an affair and lose his mind.  He has been disconnected from reality for a long time.  Anyone who attempts to assign even a modicum of blame on Jennifer obviously resides on the same planet as jeffery.  And what is wrong with that doctor....not admitting that Jeffery is a danger to Jennifer.  Maybe he is afraid of being sued.

You are SO right about the affair NOT causing this; the man is sick and dangerous. However, this 'act of self preservation" you state is not correct.

 

Affairs are ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS incredibly selish. If her intent were "self preservation," it would make more sense to get away, not add fuel to the fire. And yes, I do have an "ounce of intelligence" (much more than that:).

 

Correct again....Jennifer is NOT to blame for this man's mental problems. It's sad that she were not wiser and stronger, but then again he picked her (at the young age of 19) becuase he wanted someone he could control.

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:43 am PDT

Never Dreamed there was someone else like my ex husband

 When I started watching the show it just blew me away. It was describing how my marriage was. I was in a relationship for 11 years going thru the same thing. He would put voice activated tape players in my car, around the house. He tapped my phone. He would put up a cam corder to record both doors to see who came or went. If I worked he thought I was going out on him and if i stayed home he thought the same. I couldnt even sit outside. He cost me a couple jobs. Finally I cracked under the pressure. I now suffer from Panic disorder, depression, agoraphobia. It took 11 years to get away from him. I had gotten EPOs against him over the yrs. But even after leaving him. I still had to have his imput on what to do. After all the years of having to look to him for all the decisions. I had been programed to do just that. He let me know I was a nothing and I deserved everything that happened. He even told mr that God had taken away my 16 year old son to punish me for leaving him. I'm still messed up.
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:47 am PDT

Spam????????

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 Those "helpful" posts are spammed on the boards everywhere, and have become really annoying,

Anon, I wish you'd participate in discussions as participant instead of  as spammer.

If they applied to you, you might not find them so "annoying." Please think about others. There are people posting who could/would benefit by knowing more about a topic and knowing who to contact for help.

 

The poster is NOT offering his/her opinion; the information is factual and the resources offered are easy to locate.

 

And you have no clue whether this poster is participating in the forum in other ways. You also don't know if Dr. Phil has asked the poster to post the links, etc. If the poster is not harming you (while possibly helping others), you shouldn't be concerned. You should be thankful.

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:48 am PDT

Nut case!

 Jeffrey is a nut case and needs to be put in a straight jacket, thrown in a padded room, and left!   He is one of the most scarriest people I have ever seen, and actually made me nervous watching the show.  I hope and pray for Jennifer and her kids that she can get this man out of their life for good.  This man should not be allowed to be around his children with his mentality and obsessive thinking.  He is disturbed!  I fear if he is allowed contact with his children, that Jeffery will manipulate his way into being in contact with Jennifer, and she will never be rid of him completely.  She needs help in cutting every form of communication with this jerk, so she can feel safe once and for all.   It is obvious, this man will never stop, he is absolutely not capable of being in control of himself or his obsessions. 

 

Jennifer . . . Stay strong, fight hard, do not give in, and you will be okay very soon.  You have a lot of people thinking about you, praying for you, and you have Dr. Phil on your side! 

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 6:02 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I wanted to ask Dr. Phil????   when Jeffrey was "suppose" to be getting treatment, WHY WAS JENNIFER EVEN ACCEPTING CALLS FROM HIM????  I feel if this is his addition, he should have been monitored and not been able to tap into her emails, or have ANY CONTACT WITH HER WHATSOEVER!!!!  Why was that allowed and WHY did Jennifer even pick up the phone when he obsessively and abusively was calling that night??????

 

jody

I could not agree more!!!  I feel this issue needs a response from the facility or Dr. Phil.
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:15 am PDT

Fooling Dr. Phil

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THIS GUY IS REALLY LAUGHING AT HOW HE'S FOOLING DR. PHIL, ETC.  HE IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING TRAGIC, THAT'S FOR SURE.  I AM GLAD THAT SHE HAS AN ATTORNEY NOW AND THIS ATTORNEY WILL HELP HER ALONG WITH DR. PHIL AND OTHERS.  GET HER 24/7 PEOPLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON HER AND THE KIDS.  THIS GUY SHOULD BE IN A LOONEY BIN.

 

AND WHO WAS THE LADY IN YESTERDAY'S AUDIENCE THAT MAYBE FELT SORRY FOR HIM BECAUSE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HER 2 TIMES SAYING "THANK YOU".  SHE SHOULDN'T BE LET BACK IN THE SHOW. 

 

PLEASE GET THE DIVORCE FOR THE POOR WIFE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR HER AND THE KIDS.

 

What makes you think this nut is fooling Dr. Phil?  I think the doc just sees how dangerous this nut is and he is handling him with kit-gloves.  There is NO WAY Dr. Phil is fooled by this transparent a-hole.  Let's keep watching....I do agree however, the wife needs a guard.  This guy will have to be committed to keep away from her.  Exciting show.
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:23 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I too am surprised that Dr. Phil did not place them into protective custody.  I was almost in tears after the second show.  The facility in which he has been placed has obviously begun the 'dig' into his phych that has him terrified and exposed.  His instability was obvious and Jennifer is in danger (physically, she's been endangered emotionally for years).  Anyone who would go to those lenghts to spy on her (affair not withstanding, that was wrong, but irrevelant since the behavior pre-dates it) is frightening.  Dr. Phil, I know you put yourself on the line each day with your show, this is truely one of your scarier moments.  I hope she can stay safe, without you she had no chance, please take care of her.  Jeffery is very ill and can be helped, but it will take a very long time and his children don't deserve the example he is setting.  Thank you for helping them.

 i had a very violent reaction to jeffery.  i was physically ill, made sure my house was locked and then hid under my blanket.  i cannot agree more wholeheartedly that jennifer and her family need to be in protective custody.  this man is nodifferent than the other stalkers.  please, dr. phil, keep them safe!!!  
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:25 am PDT

SORRY TO SAY.......

 I am sorry to say, but she too is at fault for allowing him to continue his behavior. I am a happily married women and I just have to speak the truth. I saw the first show and also the second show. I too agree that Jeffery is out of control and she needs to get out of that marriage for the sake of her kids, but I also have to say the she seems to egg him on. She knows how he is and she continues to act as though she is a single women. Who was the male on the phone that left her that message. She did have an affair and she also needs to take her part in that. I am not saying that becuase of her actions she made him that way, but I am saying that if she has been this unhappy then she should have left along time ago. She was wrong for what she did becuase two wrongs don't make a right. Myspace at the her age, come on. Instead of worrying about her myspace, e-mails she should take her time and get out of that life. God helps those who help themselves and it took her all this time to do something. I would have left the first year it started.

 

sorry, but that is what I think.

 
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May 11, 2007, 6:27 am PDT

Amen to this.

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If they applied to you, you might not find them so "annoying." Please think about others. There are people posting who could/would benefit by knowing more about a topic and knowing who to contact for help.

 

The poster is NOT offering his/her opinion; the information is factual and the resources offered are easy to locate.

 

And you have no clue whether this poster is participating in the forum in other ways. You also don't know if Dr. Phil has asked the poster to post the links, etc. If the poster is not harming you (while possibly helping others), you shouldn't be concerned. You should be thankful.

Anon also gave me some insight about a question that was bugging me about another show on another messageboard. There are obviously a lot of people in situations similiar to Jennifer's and need a place to go to help them figure out what to do.
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:35 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

Quote From: kyangel

 When I started watching the show it just blew me away. It was describing how my marriage was. I was in a relationship for 11 years going thru the same thing. He would put voice activated tape players in my car, around the house. He tapped my phone. He would put up a cam corder to record both doors to see who came or went. If I worked he thought I was going out on him and if i stayed home he thought the same. I couldnt even sit outside. He cost me a couple jobs. Finally I cracked under the pressure. I now suffer from Panic disorder, depression, agoraphobia. It took 11 years to get away from him. I had gotten EPOs against him over the yrs. But even after leaving him. I still had to have his imput on what to do. After all the years of having to look to him for all the decisions. I had been programed to do just that. He let me know I was a nothing and I deserved everything that happened. He even told mr that God had taken away my 16 year old son to punish me for leaving him. I'm still messed up.

Your post almost made me cry.  I am so sorry for what has happened to you.  I hope that you can find the inner strength to love yourself and move on.  It's so sad to know that he had caused this trauma to you.

 

I cannot even understand the heartache of losing a child - you have carried more burdens than I could ever imagine.  Be strong and know that there are lots of people (like me!) out there who admire your courage. 

 
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