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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 6:38 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I could not agree more!!!  I feel this issue needs a response from the facility or Dr. Phil.
If I understood correctly, the staff at the treatment facility were encouraging Jennifer to allow telephone contact with Jeffrey until the sedatives that he was given worked.  They were trying to keep him there and in order to do that they were trying not to escalate his anger and anxiety.
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:44 am PDT

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First, I would like to state that  no one deserves to be treated in the way that jennifer is being treated.  However, this woman is not innocent.  Dr. phil has not once examined her part in all of this.  I know that if Dr. phil tries, it will seem as if he is trying to make an excuse for the husband's behavior.  It was stated that his behavior started before she cheated on him, and that may be the truth, but now I believe that for a long time this woman wanted to move on and now that she has help from the dr. phil show, she is taking full advantage of it.  Jeffrey stated that he discovered a voice message from a guy stating that he was thinking about jennifer and he assumes that she is in the shower so when she get the message for her to return it.  I think that once this woman cheated the first time, she continued to sneak around, and that is why he continues to monitor her.  She doesn't even have the decency to wait until they are separated before she begins to speak to other men,  It is clear that Jeffrey needs help.  However, I think that it is unfair for people to continue to label him as a nut and so forth.  I believe that this woman was too young when she got married and now she wants to have that excitement in her life that she didn't have then.  In conclusion, I hope that jeffrey receive that help that he needs so that he can move on with his life.

 

p.s.  and what kind of wife exposes herself on myspace in a bikini, doesn't she know that this would encourage him to continue his behavior, not that it is entirely her fault, but it goes to show that this woman is not entirely innocent in this whole thing.

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 6:46 am PDT

Good Job Dr Phil

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DR. Phil,

I realize your job is to counsel couples to help them save their marriages, but come on!!  I think this is what drives me crazy about your show. 

Most of the people who come to your show are in marriages that are beyond saving.  You provide all this professional help so that you can drag it all out for ratings. I am not against the need for the help you offer, but really, offer it to the woman ( or man) to end the marriage not stay in the marriage.  I don't care if the divorce rate is what it is, most of these couples should never have married in the first place. Love does not conquer all, Love alone does not constitute a reason to stay in an unhealthy marriage.  What is your success rate anyway?  Out of all the married couples you have counseled over the years, how many have actually stayed married successfully??

 This is a perfect example.   This guy, Jeffrey, is a lunatic!!!  Jennifer needs to get out and she should have gotten out years ago!!!  She has been beaten down so low, she is a poster child for abused women.  She may not have a bruise on her body, but the abuse she has dealt with is almost worse in some ways. 

I hope and pray that Jennifer will find her way out of this marriage and get the help she needs so that she sees that her love is worth so much more than what this man could ever afford.  She is worth more and it is time she show this to her children.  She is giving them the wrong message by staying in a marriage that is dead.  I hope this episode ends with Jennifer coming on your stage with the self esteem she needs to provide for herself and her children.  Only then will she attract a man that is worthy of her love.

 

Somtimes it takes actual first hand evidence to open the eyes of a "lovestruck" person.  How many people that you know have a partner with flaws that everyone notices - excpet the person in love??  I think that by offering the counseling there are two benefits. The first is that maybe it will work.  The second is that the person that has "blind eyes" may see the light when in a setting with a professional offering an educated opinion.  I am sometimes confused by the actions taken by Dr.Phil but I am confident that he always has a plan and that plan involves making sick people and relationships well again. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:47 am PDT

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THIS GUY IS REALLY LAUGHING AT HOW HE'S FOOLING DR. PHIL, ETC.  HE IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING TRAGIC, THAT'S FOR SURE.  I AM GLAD THAT SHE HAS AN ATTORNEY NOW AND THIS ATTORNEY WILL HELP HER ALONG WITH DR. PHIL AND OTHERS.  GET HER 24/7 PEOPLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON HER AND THE KIDS.  THIS GUY SHOULD BE IN A LOONEY BIN.

 

AND WHO WAS THE LADY IN YESTERDAY'S AUDIENCE THAT MAYBE FELT SORRY FOR HIM BECAUSE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HER 2 TIMES SAYING "THANK YOU".  SHE SHOULDN'T BE LET BACK IN THE SHOW. 

 

PLEASE GET THE DIVORCE FOR THE POOR WIFE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR HER AND THE KIDS.

 

I noticed that he was saying "Thank you" to someone also, but I took it totally different than you did.  He was saying it in a sarcastic way, because she was not being nice.  He was just being a jerk.
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:48 am PDT

Obsessive Love

 Dear Dr. Phil;

 

     I heard you say this was the worst case you have had on your program. Like you, I fear for Jennifer and I would not answer any of his phone calls. I would leave and take  the children with me. She needs a safe place and protection from this man. He totally scares me!!! I pray he gets help, but I fear he will never be able to live in this society. This guy is why we have mental institutions. He will hurt his wife. His children have already been exposed to his unexceptable behavior and they will have problems if they all don't get help.

 

     Please get the wife and children in a safe place. This man should  not even be let out. I am not a TV producer, but I think I would have done the second show in the treatment center and the wife and children should have been put in a safe place from day one. This whole mess is an unstable situation and all involved need to be kept safe. This could end up in a violent explosion and that too scares me. A home can be replaced, things can be replaced, but the life of any of them can not. Please help all of them and get that wife and children in a safe place where Jeffrey will never find them if he is ever let out into the general public.

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May 11, 2007, 6:53 am PDT

You must be strong

Jennifer your strength is being tested.  You need to be strong for you and the kids.  He is very mentallty unstable.  Just don't let him take the control back from you stand strong, do what you need for you and the children to be safe.  You will not be safe with him like this.  This is not your fault it falls on him.  Stop him in his tracks, make yourself and your children safe til he gets stable.  I hope this helps don't let him get the control back on you.........
 
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May 11, 2007, 6:54 am PDT

Torn between children and new husband.

Dr. Phil

I once heard you say and fairly recently also that people who get divorced for whatever reason, and then try  to put the relationship back together years later, stand an extremely low chance of success.  I made a huge mistake when I let my first husband go so easily, and now it's been 8 years apart, 4 divorced, and I am remarried to a  different man whom I fight with on a daily basis.  Nothing I do is ever good enough; always something wrong with it.  My first husband and I have been communicating again for the last 4 years; realizing that the fighting was getting us nowhere and it was hurting our 2 daughters (now 19 and 22).  I realize the  mistakes I made and I so much want to undo them and make things right again.  My eldest doesn't seem to care one way or the other, but my youngest would love nothing better than to see her family put back together.  Life with their stepfather has been anything but easy.  I don't know which way to turn anymore.   I literally have no family or friends to speak with, and I'm not exaggerating.  If you could drop me some words of wisdom I'd be much obliged, especially knowing how busy you are with a lot more important issues.

 

Audrey Veale

 
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May 11, 2007, 6:57 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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 I am sorry to say, but she too is at fault for allowing him to continue his behavior. I am a happily married women and I just have to speak the truth. I saw the first show and also the second show. I too agree that Jeffery is out of control and she needs to get out of that marriage for the sake of her kids, but I also have to say the she seems to egg him on. She knows how he is and she continues to act as though she is a single women. Who was the male on the phone that left her that message. She did have an affair and she also needs to take her part in that. I am not saying that becuase of her actions she made him that way, but I am saying that if she has been this unhappy then she should have left along time ago. She was wrong for what she did becuase two wrongs don't make a right. Myspace at the her age, come on. Instead of worrying about her myspace, e-mails she should take her time and get out of that life. God helps those who help themselves and it took her all this time to do something. I would have left the first year it started.

 

sorry, but that is what I think.

Dear Happiness, you know nothing about spousal abuse.  Jennifer married Jeffery when she was 19 years old and he was 30.  It is a slow process, and you are very ignorant to think she's at fault.  The subtle emotional abuse starts until she is trapped emotionally, financially, spiritually.  He has systematically broken her down throughout the years.  Plus, no matter what Jennifer did, it has nothing to do with his behavior.  He is obsessed and has major control issues.  My mother was abused for 12 years in her marriage to my father.  It isn't that simple, every time my mother tried to leave, he hunted us down.  My father attempted to kill my mother more times than I can count.  That was in the 60's into the 70's when there were no safe houses and it was ok to smack your wife around.  There are people today who still think it's ok.  You seem to think she likes it, and wants it and eggs it on, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!.  You are lucky you found a good man, but please do not speak out on something you know nothing about!

 

Jennifer, my prayers are with you!  I hope you and your children keep safe and I hope you end up with a happy life, my mother did!  She's now married 21 years to a good, kind man.

 

Terri

 
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May 11, 2007, 6:58 am PDT

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Was thinking the same things as you. . .If Jeffery is in treatment why was he allowed access to a phone to make the multiple calls per day, a computer, etc.   Why did Jennfer not change phone numbers, door locks, passwords, etc too. 

It was to keep him there and co operative with the staff, at one point they sedated him, but sedatives don't work well on a person already wound up, and maybe in some way she thought she might be helping in his treatment (out there maybe, but possible ).

If she had changed all those things, he would've left too soon, and things would've been worse than ever for her, as an adult he has the RIGHT to leave, remember this treatment was voluntary on his part, and for him to STAY there was benificial to her as well, it gave her time to come up with a plan, so keeping him there was to everyone's advantage, not only his (though admittadly, it didn't do him much good).

 
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May 11, 2007, 7:03 am PDT

todays show

After watching todays show I am literally sitting here crying because I relived what I went through watching Jennifer go through what she did. This will stay with her the rest of her life, and still affect her deeply. I would like to say to Jennifer, yes life will get a little easier now, but you will always be deeply affected, and your emotional state may be scarred for a long time. I have been away from my abuser for 3 years, and watching this whole show from begining to end, I relived the whole 12 years of hell I went through all over again. You just don't get over the fear, the terror, or the hurt. Even with therapy it's still there and always will be.
 
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