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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm

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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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lillisa2

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May 11, 2007, 10:45 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I can fully understand Jennifer, she got a night out, without being stalked, for once in how long? She is not doing anything wrong, was all in innocence and fun, which is way overdue for her. Unfortunately things will never be "OK" with Jeffery. He is insanely, obsessively, jealous. She will have to look over her shoulder the rest of her life, and I'm not quite sure she knew those pics were going to be put online, either way, it is her way of coping and still trying to "prove" that she is not doing anything wrong. Not easy to explain unless you've been there or in very similar situations.

It seems pretty easy to understand that she is trying to keep her children safe right now until he can get some help to possibly allow him to be in a different frame of mind then he is right now. Regardless of me being in her situation, If I fear my life like she states she does WHY are you making this worse? It does state that she knew the pictures were going to be put on the web????

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swchick

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May 11, 2007, 10:45 am PDT

This might be out of line

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YOu know this how? Man I feel sorry for your wife if your married.

But I have the strangest feeling those odd posts might be coming from a Loudon county correctional facility... And a feeling that the grammar, sytax and style of the text message is being used as a kind of disguise.

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hisladytish

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May 11, 2007, 10:45 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Why isnt this man in jail? How many husbands have to murder their wives and children before people get a clue? The focus should be on him and his behavior, period. The victim blaming I see on this board is repugnant. He's an abuser. He belongs in prison. Period. No ifs and or buts. And she needs some sort of therapy to get over being abused by this man. He should *never* have any contact with her or those children ever again.

unfortunately, the way the law works in most states, as Jeffrey stated himself, there are no laws for a husband "stalking" his wife. Also, the law's hands are tied when it comes to domestic situations unless something actually happens, like someone getting hurt. This is why a lot of spouses end up dead, because like Jennifer said, a piece of paper is not going to stop someone from killing you. There is so much of this going on in people's lives, and a lot of it is never known because of fear of having it all turned around. Even Jennifer could not get any meaningful help from the law until she could come up with a paper stating her husband was dangerous, and before she showed that paper he had made it look like she was the one that was "crazy" and out of line.

He does need help, intense therapy, but he will only do what it takes to get out again and have the law off his back, he will never stop looking for Jennifer and her children. Again, those in charge can only do so much. If he proves himself "sane", there is nothing they can do to hold him. So sad. Imagine what people with minds like this could do for the good.

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May 11, 2007, 10:48 am PDT

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IT'S BETTER HE DON'T BE WITH HER CAUSE SHE IS STILL CHEATING .SHE GOT HOME STARTED CALLING ALL HER MALE FREIND TOLD THEM HE IS STILL IN THAT WEST COAST HE NOT COMING HOME SO LETS !! PARTY!!...WHEN SHE STARTS GETTING OLD TO THEM THEY ALL GONNA LEAVE BECAUSE SHE ALL RUN DOWN ..THEN SHE GONNA TRY AND BE COOL WITH JEFF. BUT HOPEFULLY HE'S FOLLOWING SOME OTHER FEMALE...AND LAUGH AT HER BUT TAKE CARE OF HIS KIDS

This post is ridiculous drival.

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zoey1965

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May 11, 2007, 10:54 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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This guy needs some time to process. He did not get the way he is today overnight. This situation between the both of them has been building up for years and years. It likely did not start out this way, as the earlier pictures of them both seem to show them as a cute happy couple. They have two beautiful kids together.

Many of the comments here make me sick. I am wondering if the roles were exactly reversed would you be excusing her actions because he is not loving her? We have a double standard in our society. Men are not allowed to expect women to be held accountable.

What about the vows she made to "forsake all others" ?

If she had honored her wedding vows, would Jeffery be doing what he is doing?

We dont have all of the facts. We have not had the cameras in their house for the past 10 years watching who STARTED this unfortunate series of events. He may have been unstable to begin with, he may not have. He may have been being a good man to his wife and kids and she just decided to go out and sow the wild oats, which is destroying this man. We do not know for sure

who is at fault. So why not just work from here, where we know what the facts of today are.

First, the kids are number one. lets not forget that THEY need a FATHER in their lives.

Lets not be so quick to kick Jeffery to the curb he's not on meth

So because he's not on meth, that makes him just one hell of a nice guy!

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May 11, 2007, 10:54 am PDT

He needs to be locked up

This guy is so afraid of losing his wife yet all he does is push her away. Is there really a safe place for her? We all know that TRO's don't work. He just looks so deceptive. He doesn't make eye contact and did anybody else notice that he never REALLY answers any of Dr Phil's questions?

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May 11, 2007, 10:56 am PDT

A few things

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I am an avid Dr. Phil watcher and have been following this story just as the rest of you. However, like many of you I have a few concerns that have not been addressed to Jennifer on the show.

Number One: What do you think gives you the right to flee to your Mothers home for the safety of yourself and your children and then proceed to go out on a night on the town with your friends and allow yourself to have pictures taken with men you do not even know!!

Number Two: While your husband is a crazy nutjob that should be locked away and never allowed near you or the children the reality is that is not going to be the case. He is a very intellegent man and will not stop until he gets what he wants. How are you going to protect yourself and your children after the cameras quit rolling??

Number Three: Why when you heard that your husband was on his way to LAX why did you not IMMEDIATLY get on the first plane out of there to get home to your kids!! Instead you hung around the studio and continued to take his phone calls and try to rationalize with an insane man??!!

Number Four: Do you really have men calling you and leaving messages that you must be in the tub? Why are you sending photos of yourself in a bikini to other men?? Why do you have them on your Myspace page?? I have a myspace and a child. I would never in any circumstance think that it is appropriate to have those types of images displayed of yourself. Where are your morals?!?!?

I am the first to agree that your husband is nuts and needs serious help. However, it is almost like a drug addict in rehab. You are dangling his obsession in front of him by allowing photos of yourself and conversations with other men to go on.

I pray that you are able to escape the nightmare you are living through but at the same time don't allow yourself to fall back into another trap...if not for yourself then for your children!!!

I don't, for a minute, believe a thing coming out of Jeffrey's mouth when it comes to Jennifer's behavior. Yes, her decisions are not always the best, but come on! Explain to me where was I wrong when my friends came to get me at my mother's funeral and took me out to have some lunch and we started joking around. I think the same principle applies here - it was a group photo, probably, and chances are he manipulated it to make it look like what he wanted.

As for why didn't she immediately fly home, I'm gonna guess you're not an L.A. resident. LAX is VERY FAR from where the show is taped, and traffic is always difficult. Even if Jennifer had left the moment she heard of him fleeing, he was already closer to the West Side of town, where the airport is located. She'd never would have made it on time.

I think the main problem here is, why didn't she change all passwords and access codes to everything right away? I can understand being overwhelmed, but it's a simple, silly thing that could have saved her a lot of hurt.

I truly hope they lock him up permanently and throw away the key. Maybe Jen and the kids could get new identities? Like the witness protection program? In case the guy gets to come out at some point...

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May 11, 2007, 10:57 am PDT

Finally....

finally she got away from this monster. im so happy for her. i still wish there was somethin i could do to help this poor woman. i wish her the very best and shes gonna find the perfect guy to take care of her the way sshe wants.

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May 11, 2007, 10:59 am PDT

Obsessive love: on the run

I watched all the episodes with this couple. One thing I wanted to say is that when Dr. Phil asked Jeff what gave him the right to do these things to his wife, I knew the answer. Having recently left a religious cult, I heard similarities between what Jeff said and the religious cult I left. In his mind what gives him the "right" to do those things is simply that he believes his wife is his property. In Jeffs twisted mind, she belongs to him. He can't accept any other mode of thought on that. I could see similarities with Jeff's "I want to stay married to Jen for the rest of my life" (PERIOD) statements that he made. For him there is no other option. In his eyes she made that promise and it's not okay for her to change her mind. It's creepy and disgusting. I hope for the children's sakes that Jeff will get some serious treatment and help. I think he needs medication. I'm glad that Jen could turn to Dr. Phil for help. I'm grateful for the people who are reaching out to her and her children now with help. Thank goodness for good people. Jen if you read this, take care and know that people are praying for you and your children.

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May 11, 2007, 10:59 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I've read a lot of the post and most are saying the same thing. And I agree it's a losing battle and the focus should be on the safety of the woman and children. My thoughts are that if Dr. Phil doesn't see this through to the end and something goes really wrong will the families feel Dr. Phil is responsible because she is making her decisions based on his advice....

I know Dr. Phil will never let this drop from his focus, maybe it won't be on a program all the time, but he will never let this one fall through the cracks.

Nonetheless, it would not be his or anyone else's fault if anything "happened", because she is getting advice from many sources besides Dr. Phil, including her lawyer, and I am sure a therapist, just for a few.

My biggest fear is that this nutjob gets out of jail, blames Dr. Phil for not having his wife anymore, then rectifying it with hurting Dr. Phil or making sure that Dr. Phil doesn't have his wife either to know how it feels. I am sure Dr. Phil has thought of this, and dealing with what he does on a regular basis I am sure it wouldn't be the first time.

Dr. Phil is only a doorway to the help someone needs, he helps to bring things out, to identify the problem, and helps with ways to deal with it, but he knows he cannot do it all himself, and has many other resources that pick up where he leaves off.

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