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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 3:16 pm PDT

Obsessive Love: On the Run

Thank G-d for Dr. Phil and his staff members!

Jeffery is a sick man obviously.  I have not doubt that he is capable of murdering his wife if he is let out of jail.  Although she may love Virginia, I would get out of that state (after finalizing the divorce) and never return.  No judge in his right mind would ever allow that man to have any type of visitation rights in the future (if ever).  This was such a emotional show.  Too emotional.  I felt awful for the wife throughout each of the three shows.  I wanted to call her and tell her to leave and don't ever look back. The man is very ill and will probably never recover from this obsessive behavior. Being in jail for many years won't cure him, but it will keep her safe!

Such a heart-breaking show, yet knowing Dr. Phil has her best interest at heart does calm my nerves much more.  I hope Dr. Phil does keep everyone updated on this situation in the future. 

Thanks Dr. Phil for being the person that you are. 

LGK

 
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May 11, 2007, 3:16 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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...which is, not surprising, what people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder tend to do.

I'm not saying whether or not Jeffrey does, but I wouldn't be surprised if that would be added to a long list of diagnoses that would probably also include Paranoid Schizophrenia, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and Panic Disorder.

I notice a total lack of feelings or emotion in this guy's eyes - he only sees life from his point of view, cannot put himself in the shoes of others emotionally.   Aspergers anyone?

 
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May 11, 2007, 3:18 pm PDT

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That is exactly what I have been trying to say.  Her actions helped put her in this situation.  Now I don't understand or agree at all with the crazy vasectomy story, the cameras or any of the other stuff but as far as the way he is acting right now...he is scared and going through a ton of emotions at once.  He just doesn't know how to handle them.  He is panicing and sometimes that causes people to react thoughlessly and impulsively.

Her actions did nothing. HIS actions led to every single thing you've seen. Every. Single. One.

 

Without exception.

 

He was like that before he met her. He was like that from the day they got married. It would not have mattered what her actions were. Period. If she had female friends, he thought she was a lesbian. If she had a job, he thought ALL her co workers were a threat.

 

Panic does not explain a camera in the bedroom and turning up the heat so he could see her asleep and uncovered. Its entitlement pure and simple. She is something he thinks he OWNS. She isnt a person to him, she's an object, a possession. Thats why he is acting this way. Not because he's distraught or panicked or any other excuse or "explaination". He thinks he has the right to own her. Thats it.

 
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May 11, 2007, 3:18 pm PDT

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Why is Dr. Phil being biased towards Jeffery?

 

Creative Care didnt say he was a danger, they said that he could and might do something stupid and crazy depending on the situation.

 

As usually the feminists blow everything out of proportion, Jeffery is not an immediate danger to anybody. I agree he is not treating his wife like a gentlemen, but that doesnt mean you have to pick on Jeffery.

 

Where is the equality here?

 

On a scale from 1 to 10.

1 being terrible and 10 being completely fair.

 

I would have to give Dr. Phil a 7/10 on fairness with Jeffery.

 Creative Care did say that Jeffrey is a danger to Jennifer.  The courts agreed and issued a restraining order which Jeffrey immediately began breaking. 

That is why Jeffery is in jail with no bail.  He will not even try to control himself.  He just wants to control everyone else.  Did you  miss all the lies, the false deals, the illegal things he did? 

What's this business about feminists?  All I see are people who understand the real situation as opposed to some who think it is just fine for men to be manipulative, deceitful, abusers. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 3:19 pm PDT

Not seeing the whole picture

I watched the watched show .....but I'm curious, was there a history of physical abuse and not just mental?  I don't understand why she's always crying acting like he's going to hurt her.  And her comment about Nicole Brown Simpson was way over the top, that woman had a real history of physical abuse.  Granted I think the husband is a nut but portraying him as violent may be over dramatic, unless he's hurt her physically before.  Plus I don't think she has been held accountable for any of her actions, and I was suprised Dr. Phil did not bring up the fact that her actions regarding other men have been inappropriate.  I know he's paranoid, but I think her actions have feeded it and escalated it. For example, in that photo shown she looked very cozy with a guy she supposedly has only known for 5 minutes.  Not saying there was any wrong doing, but to a guy already worried it looks that way and she's fueling the fire.  Not to mention the phone calls at home, and the myspace page etc.

 
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May 11, 2007, 3:20 pm PDT

I knew it

I knew it.  As a matter of fact, the last post I made on this site I stated it.  This man is CRAZY.  I'm no doctor, but I can see it clearly.

 

He is sick.

 

I pray that Jennifer and her children remain safe.

 

Face it - a restraining order is just a piece of paper.  Do you all really think a piece of paper is going to keep this lunatic away from this woman?  Do you think he is going to back down?  Why would he?   All of America has seen him on TV - who else is going to want to have anything to do with him if Jennifer divorces him.

 

Even with treatment and therapy he is so far gone that it would take years to fix him.  After all the stuff he has done to her, he still thinks it's not his fault that the marriage failed.  He is dillusional.

 

Mark my word - he is going to harm her.

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 3:20 pm PDT

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That is exactly what I have been trying to say.  Her actions helped put her in this situation.  Now I don't understand or agree at all with the crazy vasectomy story, the cameras or any of the other stuff but as far as the way he is acting right now...he is scared and going through a ton of emotions at once.  He just doesn't know how to handle them.  He is panicing and sometimes that causes people to react thoughlessly and impulsively.
I'll agree with what you said except for this one statement:

Her actions helped put her in this situation.

How did Jennifer's actions put her in this situation?
 
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May 11, 2007, 3:21 pm PDT

Guilty

One more thing Dr.Phil has the best help to provide so he "says". Why then was able to keep calling her and able to get on the Internet to check all of her messages? If she was up to something and doing things wrong on her mysapce then she is really stupid.

Just because you take a picture with someone does not mean you are cheating. Just like Jeffrey said "she ran to someone else's arms " just because she took a picture with some one that is so crazy.

Sounds to me like Jeffrey has a guilty conscience.

 

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May 11, 2007, 3:21 pm PDT

Thank you

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Jennifer; I am 54 years old and 15 years or so ago, I was exactly were you are now. I was married to an obsessive, contrillong, dangerously schitzophrenic husband. I lived in fear for my life an the life of my 9 year old daughter. One time I caught him spying on me with a mirror on the end of a broomstick from the second floor, hoping to catch me doing something. He constantly accused me of having interest in other men. I walked on eggshells for years, being so careful about what I said, fearing that the wrong comment would set him off in a fit of rage. I did sleep with a knife under my side of the mattress, I was that terrified. I know that you know what I am talking about.

When I finally managed to get away (which was difficult as he seldom left me alone) I made my way to a women's shelter with my child and started divorce proceedings. Like your husband, it was always "all about him" and even he ended up in psychiatric care for 8 days - he claimed I had 'done this to him'.  All the while he constantly called me, my parents until all hours of the night. Of course there was a lot more that transpired but by the time I finally came home I walked in to a bizarre scene of cached weapons at the ready: every door and window to my home had some instrument to harm me had I walked in while he was still there. Axes, knives, hammers..everything was placed within easy reach for him to use against me. Needless to say I was horrified.

Every time he violated the restraining order for no contact I made note of it and took it to the local police. Eventually he was charged with Criminal Stalking. His obsession grew worse.

I made preparations to sell the home and move. It wasn't easy, doing it all by myself as we (tylically) lived in an isolated town of only 2500 people. I didn't have any friends to help me. The calls and emails continued, he constantly harassed me. I was scared, very very scared. I would stay dressed  and up and awake from Friday morning until Monday morning. I knew something bad was going to happen, and the weekends and Holidays were always the worst. His alcohol and drug abuse was not allowing the medications to work and he was not rational. One Saturday night he did tell me he was going to come to our home and talk to me. Every hour he called he said he was closer to making the 40 mile trip and for me to get ready. Sure enough, just after 1:00 a.m. he started pounding on the door and as I called the police, he kicked in the door. As soon as he found me he pulled the phone from the wall. Well to make a very long and dramatic story short the police did take him away which just gave me enough time to complete my move and leave the area. Even for years after that he'd call.

Jennifer your story has touched me, and watching you go through nearly the same thing I did is giving me nightmares.

 

 

For sharing your story.  Until someone has gone through this, it is naive to judge.
 
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May 11, 2007, 3:23 pm PDT

Good Luck

As a former Iowa resident Jennifer, I wish you and your children the best of luck.  May God bless you and yours. 
 
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