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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 1:12 am PDT

The Kids

For the sake of the kids do NOT let him be a part of their lives. He is too mentally ill, and is a major risk to their safety. No matter how much he loves them he will hurt them. Jennifer as a kid who has gone through this, I advise you to not pressure your kids into a relationship with him. My mother does this and I have panic attacks when I'm around my dad now. I hope your kids get help. I feel so sorry for you honey. You deserve better, and no matter what anyone thinks, you did nothing wrong. there is no best way to deal with the situation. But exposing him for what he has done, had to take tons of strength. I admire you for that. God bless you. :) No one deserves to constantly fear for their life, or to be treated like a possession.

 

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May 11, 2007, 1:13 am PDT

Sad situation

I find it very interesting that Jeff was the one who wrote the Dr Phil show asking for the help. So many people judge him. I think that is very very sad. We do not know all of the facts by watching the show. He also was quite forthcoming with all of the crap he was doing. He admits it all. He honestly said he would much rather be working in his job than being his own private dectective to watch his wife.

 

I think he really wanted to have a normal family life with his wife and kids. I think he really wanted Dr Phil to HELP HIM get exactly that. I think if Jeff had a normal life with his wife and kids he would be a good Father, a good husband, and a good provider. That came through in the first show.

 

I thought it was sad that there was no applause when he walked upon the stage this evening. He was still a guest on the show and has been willing to share his personal life with all of us.

You judgemental people make me sick.

 

Dr Phil's attorney for Jeffs wife also makes me sick. He was made out to be a good guy doing a really good thing.  NOT! 

 

Its sad that Jeff did'nt just hire CHEATERS to watch his wife. Then our media  brainwashed culture would not be able to judge him and call him nuts for trying to hang onto his wife and family.

 

What do you thing would happen if Jen just woke up one day and said. "I love my husband and will do anything to show him that I absolutely love him as my man and the father of my children and make him feel absolutely secure in our love and relationship"  AND backed it up with whatever the hell he needed to feel safe and secure in his relationship with her?

 

Her myspace page has a new entry telling everybody she is MARRIED and TOTALLY COMMITTED to her husband. and gets pictures like he posted of happy times with the WHOLE family.

 

What Jeff needs you bunch  of judgemental apes, is a woman who is not looking over his shoulder at other DUDES. Which, unfortunately, she is doing, probably because he married her

at such a young age 19 and now she is naturally curious about other men.

 

Jeff needs to realize that with his two kids he will always be in her life regardless. He also needs to shut the hell up about what he is thinking on the inside and stop sharing it with people who are only going to screw him over for it.

 

What he is feeling is totally natural for a man who is losing his wife to her wandering eye of 30 and married at 19.

 

Let her go dude, This aint workin!  I know you thing you discovered plutonium but there are other

beautiful women out there if she will not love you properly as you tried to love her before it all started to go sideways.

 

I dont think he will ever harm her because I believe he truely does love her more than he loves his own desire for her. Just one mans opinion. 

Best of luck Jeff, you have a difficult road ahead but you ARE QUITE INTELLIGENT. 

Put those smarts to work to improve your situation and life for you and everyone around you.

 

Definca

 
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May 11, 2007, 2:03 am PDT

No Pity Whatsoever

 I applaud Dr. Phil in his ability to resrain himself from shaking Jeffrey up, down and sideways. Personally I have spent my whole life battling compulsive./obsessive mental disorders and I have enormous respect for people who battle this condition on a daily basis, but Jeffrey's self-serving, condenscending  attitude made me feel no pity for him whatsoever. What I think needs to be done is this: fly Jeffrey to a remote place like Pitcairn Island. There he could  try to control the waves of the seas and the many varieties of birds that inhabit the island
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:32 am PDT

Yep

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This man is a serious threat to himself, his wife, his children, his extended family, in short he is a threat to society.  I feel it would be in the best interest of everyone, that he be detained in a mental facility indefinitely until he can pass a competency test and be certified accordingly!

I have known people with milder versions of obsession, and have been caught in the wake of devistation  created.  While uneducated or degreed in this field, I feel he is Certifiable and in multiple categories.  Will the courts step in and truly protect this woman and her children, or will he continue to cause havoc and destruction, if not death before proper action is ordered or taken?

The only compassion in this case belongs solely to the wife and children.  This man has been given numerous opportunities to correct his behavior and should now be forced to account for his bizzarre behavior! 

Dr. Phil, you are highly respected and draw from the best resources available, and as such I hope your involvement will encourage the courts to issue maximum protection orders and keep this man where he can harm no one, not even himself.

Sadly, this is but one such case.  Hopefully those who have not come forward will see your show and seek help to put an end to this sick obsessive and potentially destructive behavior.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

This guy is a nut job for sure. He's a narcissist<sp and I think he's a sociopath too. He really thinks its all about him. He has no absolute clue. The very sad and scary part is Jennifer is connected to him via the children and she'll NEVER be able to escape that unless she wants to escape them kwim? She's stuck with this nutcase no matter.  I wish she could get away. I think he needs to be locked up big time!

 
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May 11, 2007, 3:32 am PDT

Obsessive Love: on the run

THIS GUY IS REALLY LAUGHING AT HOW HE'S FOOLING DR. PHIL, ETC.  HE IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING TRAGIC, THAT'S FOR SURE.  I AM GLAD THAT SHE HAS AN ATTORNEY NOW AND THIS ATTORNEY WILL HELP HER ALONG WITH DR. PHIL AND OTHERS.  GET HER 24/7 PEOPLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON HER AND THE KIDS.  THIS GUY SHOULD BE IN A LOONEY BIN.

 

AND WHO WAS THE LADY IN YESTERDAY'S AUDIENCE THAT MAYBE FELT SORRY FOR HIM BECAUSE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HER 2 TIMES SAYING "THANK YOU".  SHE SHOULDN'T BE LET BACK IN THE SHOW. 

 

PLEASE GET THE DIVORCE FOR THE POOR WIFE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR HER AND THE KIDS.

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 4:16 am PDT

The Hollow Log...

  I watched the show on Thursday, May 10th and from what I saw I could only compare it to what I learned from a psych professor in college who had done much research on the rate of recitivism in federal inmates that had repeatedly committed serious relationship crimes. She refers to men like Jeffery as "Hollow Logs" They look good on the outside but have few redeemable qualities inside. This professor also made reference to men like Jeffery as "Relationship Terrorists" that care little about the impact they have on their families as long as thier primal needs are being met, and that they are in control of their situation.

It's about power over someone else and I suspect Jeffery, somewhere in his childhood or young adult life was rendered powerless by someone who abused him, and now he is practising what he learned, I think finding out why he is so terrified to be alone may answer some of the questions that I thought about while watching the show.

Regardless of what Jennifer has done to attempt to have some sort of love and acceptance, and normalcy in her life, gives him no right to do any of the inhumane things he has done to her in what appears to be nothing more than him practising ongoing relationship terrorism. This man needs serious help, and I think by law needs to be kept away from his family before he does something that can't be un-done, if that hasn't already taken place.  It is obvious that he has no sense of what interdependence is, nor what a healthy relationship even looks like and until he has undergone intense psychotherapy should not be allowed to be in realationship with any woman or family.

This man appears to be so terrified of being alone that he will do whatever he thinks he has to, to keep his family together. Too many women historically have paid the ultimate price for loving men like this, please don't let this happen to his wife and family.

Jeffery also displays almost all co-dependant behaviors I have ever read or heard about, and I think even with professional help he needs to be isolated from society  until his actions, not his words would indicate there has been some measure of change.

Trust is earned Jeffery, and just suspicion, not fact can destroy it.  Everytime you open your mouth you create suspicion and until you can learn what truth looks like you need to stay away from your family.

You demonstrate some of the most deplorable behaviors I have seem in a long time and don't deserve in any measure to have someone as beautiful as her in your life.

Jeffery's admitting that he figured out how to beat the system while in treatment to get in contact with Jennifer just confirms the fact that he is not ready in any way to be anwhere near her or his family. He is dangerous and needs to be locked down so she can get away and re-start her life.

 It is going to take years for her and the children to recover from what has happened and many of the long term ramifications won't be seen until after the children have grown up and had a chance to look back on thier past.

Please help her get as far away from him as possible, she has a right to an existance without having him anywhere near her and be sure he cannot find her as this man will do immeasurabel harm to get what he thinks he has a right to.  

I think if you find a way to stop his mouth from working you may stand a fighting chance of getting his ears to work. Anyone who defends and justifies as much as he does cannot possibly hear anything that has been said to him as his mind is steaily having to come up with another excuse or lie for him to manipulate in a see through attempt to get what he wants.

He can't even comprehend "how's that workin for ya"?

Enuf said.

Best of Luck with this one. MHTII 

 
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May 11, 2007, 4:23 am PDT

it looked normal

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wow i cant beleive what i just read, i thought jeffery was going to follow this through to the end, getting help i mean, well i guess he did in a way just not the help he wanted, boy oh boy i bet rite about now hes wishin his letter was one that didnt make it to you dr phil, ill be watching i got to see how this ends up.

I think why so many people get back into abusive relationships and are attracted to this type of person is perhaps because this is what "looks normal to them" if one grows up with violence and varying abuses , that would appear to be something they know how to cope with. Any other kind of reasonable behavior may not even be considered as it would not look anything like what the person has lived with to this point.

I think this makes good sense.

MHTII

 
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May 11, 2007, 4:30 am PDT

Unlikely to get well

Jeffrey shows all the signs of being a narciscist and a sociopath.  I doubt he'll get well, because he has no real feelings for anyone but himself so the chaos he causes, even to his children, doesn't bother him a bit.  He's basking in all the attention that being on the show has brought.  The only realistic choice for Jennifer is to get far, far away.  All the young girls out there, please pay attention - somebody monitoring your every move ISN'T LOVE!!!  It's an illness.  Someone who loves you wants YOU to be happy.  Guys like Jeffrey are only interested in their own desires and feelings. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 4:34 am PDT

Really

This guy has a lot of spy equipment.  Yet she went out with friends and takes a picture with a guy she says she does not know and is touching him him.  Then has the pictures posted on the internet.  She and her friends know that this guy will find it.  Feels like shes egging him on. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 4:38 am PDT

Yea

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Its like the alcoholic....if the alcoholic is in treatment, they don't slip him a drink on the side?????  If this is a well-known treatment facility like Dr. Phil says, why did they allow him to have ANY contact with her???  they should have been monitoring that???   She is his drug of choice...

I was wondering the same thing.

 
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