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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 7:20 am PDT

She's egging him on!

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This guy has a lot of spy equipment.  Yet she went out with friends and takes a picture with a guy she says she does not know and is touching him him.  Then has the pictures posted on the internet.  She and her friends know that this guy will find it.  Feels like shes egging him on. 
No doubt about it! Someone tipped Jeffrey on the website and it would be interesting to find out who did -- anyone on the show have any clues?
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:20 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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First, I would like to state that  no one deserves to be treated in the way that jennifer is being treated.  However, this woman is not innocent.  Dr. phil has not once examined her part in all of this.  I know that if Dr. phil tries, it will seem as if he is trying to make an excuse for the husband's behavior.  It was stated that his behavior started before she cheated on him, and that may be the truth, but now I believe that for a long time this woman wanted to move on and now that she has help from the dr. phil show, she is taking full advantage of it.  Jeffrey stated that he discovered a voice message from a guy stating that he was thinking about jennifer and he assumes that she is in the shower so when she get the message for her to return it.  I think that once this woman cheated the first time, she continued to sneak around, and that is why he continues to monitor her.  She doesn't even have the decency to wait until they are separated before she begins to speak to other men,  It is clear that Jeffrey needs help.  However, I think that it is unfair for people to continue to label him as a nut and so forth.  I believe that this woman was too young when she got married and now she wants to have that excitement in her life that she didn't have then.  In conclusion, I hope that jeffrey receive that help that he needs so that he can move on with his life.

 

p.s.  and what kind of wife exposes herself on myspace in a bikini, doesn't she know that this would encourage him to continue his behavior, not that it is entirely her fault, but it goes to show that this woman is not entirely innocent in this whole thing.

 

 I am not Jennifer, and who knows what is going through that poor womans mind, but maybe she thought in some kind of desperate logic, that her affair and continued questionable actions would push Jeffrey over the edge and that he would leave her. Do you see how much easier that would be for her??  Then it would be HIS decision.  I agree not the right way to handle things, but desperate people do try desperate things.
 

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May 11, 2007, 7:21 am PDT

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  Not only does she need to get away with her children, she needs to change her identity. these nuts will stop at nothing. it really scares and upsets me to think that he will be after her no matter what.  He needs to be stopped, but with people like him, it is either jail or locked up in a mental institution.  for her sake, something drastic needs to be done to get him out of her life once and for all so she can finally be "really" free of him and his games.
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:22 am PDT

Before I posted!!!

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Not that what he is doing is right. it's not, but she shouldn't of cheated on him in the first place. when she made the decision to sleep with someone else she should of left than. sounds like the foolishness didn't start til she had the affairs. she also needs to get real. it takes two to make it or break it.
I went back to the first show and checked, this foolishness as you call it started as soon as he married her, NOT as you say after she cheated. Cheating is not right at all, but he was already spying on her, checking up on her and doing all the other sick things he does. He was accusing her long before she cheated. Dr. Phil has said many times on his show "That what you fear the most you creat."  Before making statements like this you need to check out the facts first.
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:23 am PDT

he was being a jerk

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I noticed that he was saying "Thank you" to someone also, but I took it totally different than you did.  He was saying it in a sarcastic way, because she was not being nice.  He was just being a jerk.

The woman was laughing at him and he didn't like it. I wish everybody had started laughing at the absurdity of that entire farce!

 

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May 11, 2007, 7:27 am PDT

Evil

This man is over the top psychotic and evil.  I have no doubt that if given the opportunity he will hunt down his family and kill them all so that in his sick mind they could be "together forever." 
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:28 am PDT

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Not that what he is doing is right. it's not, but she shouldn't of cheated on him in the first place. when she made the decision to sleep with someone else she should of left than. sounds like the foolishness didn't start til she had the affairs. she also needs to get real. it takes two to make it or break it.
Horse Pooh Pooh - doesn't matter.  This guy is a sicko.  I am not justifying her affair, but there is NO reason for someone to control another human being, especially to that sick degree. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:28 am PDT

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 I am sorry to say, but she too is at fault for allowing him to continue his behavior. I am a happily married women and I just have to speak the truth. I saw the first show and also the second show. I too agree that Jeffery is out of control and she needs to get out of that marriage for the sake of her kids, but I also have to say the she seems to egg him on. She knows how he is and she continues to act as though she is a single women. Who was the male on the phone that left her that message. She did have an affair and she also needs to take her part in that. I am not saying that becuase of her actions she made him that way, but I am saying that if she has been this unhappy then she should have left along time ago. She was wrong for what she did becuase two wrongs don't make a right. Myspace at the her age, come on. Instead of worrying about her myspace, e-mails she should take her time and get out of that life. God helps those who help themselves and it took her all this time to do something. I would have left the first year it started.

 

sorry, but that is what I think.

What has her age got to do with her having a MySpace account? There are people of all ages on there. This woman was only 19 when she married him, and he was 30. He married her when she was young and foolish enough to believe whatever he told her. Leaving with children is just not as easy as it sounds, but usually it's all the HAPPILY MARRIED men and women like you who tend to judge situations like this that you know absolutely NOTHING about.
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:32 am PDT

I'm sorry if someone hurt you

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First, I would like to state that  no one deserves to be treated in the way that jennifer is being treated.  However, this woman is not innocent.  Dr. phil has not once examined her part in all of this.  I know that if Dr. phil tries, it will seem as if he is trying to make an excuse for the husband's behavior.  It was stated that his behavior started before she cheated on him, and that may be the truth, but now I believe that for a long time this woman wanted to move on and now that she has help from the dr. phil show, she is taking full advantage of it.  Jeffrey stated that he discovered a voice message from a guy stating that he was thinking about jennifer and he assumes that she is in the shower so when she get the message for her to return it.  I think that once this woman cheated the first time, she continued to sneak around, and that is why he continues to monitor her.  She doesn't even have the decency to wait until they are separated before she begins to speak to other men,  It is clear that Jeffrey needs help.  However, I think that it is unfair for people to continue to label him as a nut and so forth.  I believe that this woman was too young when she got married and now she wants to have that excitement in her life that she didn't have then.  In conclusion, I hope that jeffrey receive that help that he needs so that he can move on with his life.

 

p.s.  and what kind of wife exposes herself on myspace in a bikini, doesn't she know that this would encourage him to continue his behavior, not that it is entirely her fault, but it goes to show that this woman is not entirely innocent in this whole thing.

 

 You happen to be mistaken about the way things went down...I don't know where your bias comes from, but if someone hurt you with cheating, i'm sorry.

You need to understand that Jennifer's "part" in this was not recognizing Jeffrey's illness before marriage,  and not knowing how to handle it after marriage.

Jeffrey was "this way" well before he met Jen.  While he had an interesting job that required a lot of lively social interaction,  and could be a very sweet person, he was ill for years before, and had exhibited bizarre controlling, jealous, paranoid behaviours with his *First* wife ( not Jennifer) - she had no children and was able to escape.  

Jeffrey became fixated on Jennifer immediately after meeting her.  Jennifer didn't know that this instant intense fantasy attachment is a warning sign.   He was an extremely jealous and possesive person,  but could also be very sweet.   She talked herself out of her,  but already pregnant, married him within two months of meeting him.  He would settel down after marriage, right?  He would only go on to get worse.

You need to understand that Jeffreys claims of affairs are coming from a twisted mind.  He omits certain details and twists details around,  which is very misleading about what Jennifer's behaviour has been.


The first so called affair began not the way Jeffrey Described.  Oh, he did come home from a business trip and find a strange man in his house.  AFTER Jennifer had requested divorce, and Jeffrey decided to leave.    He moved to Florida.   Jennifer considered the marriage at an end, they were separated and for good.   He would start his new life in Florida and she would begin hers.   The man was there for a "racy" date to the zoo with Jen and the Kids . 
The Deception of Poor Saint Jeffrey was completely manufactured.   He came back ( perhaps his home spyware got him going) to tell Jen that he might leave but he was taking his son with him. 
He coerced a reconciliation to the best of his ability.

Her interactions with other people, women, men, etc have been mischaracterized by Jeffrey.
You might note his latest accusations of her affairs follow this pattern.   He is ill,  And Jennifer did not cause, trigger, exacerbate, his illness,  except by not breaking it off earlier.

This man is a danger to himself and others.   He even tried to lure Jen into the woods ( he was threatening to kill himself),  lucky for her she had the sense to call 911 instead of going to him as he requested.
 
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May 11, 2007, 7:32 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Ok, from reading the posts, I must have failed to realize she had cheated on him.  Wrong, wrong, wrong.  And, I too, agree with some of the posts who have pointed out, "where is the water from the tears."  That troubled me and I thought Dr. Phil might pick up on that.  It could be she couldn't cry real tears because she's on meds for depression or something like that.  Anyway, it's all sad, especially for the children.  To know their dad is mentally ill, and to know their mother is not all that stable either . . . what may lie ahead for them is lots of counseling.  I wish them the best.
It could also be she's cried so much that there are no tears left.
 
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