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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 8:28 am PDT

Are you kidding me!!!!!!

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First, I would like to state that  no one deserves to be treated in the way that jennifer is being treated.  However, this woman is not innocent.  Dr. phil has not once examined her part in all of this.  I know that if Dr. phil tries, it will seem as if he is trying to make an excuse for the husband's behavior.  It was stated that his behavior started before she cheated on him, and that may be the truth, but now I believe that for a long time this woman wanted to move on and now that she has help from the dr. phil show, she is taking full advantage of it.  Jeffrey stated that he discovered a voice message from a guy stating that he was thinking about jennifer and he assumes that she is in the shower so when she get the message for her to return it.  I think that once this woman cheated the first time, she continued to sneak around, and that is why he continues to monitor her.  She doesn't even have the decency to wait until they are separated before she begins to speak to other men,  It is clear that Jeffrey needs help.  However, I think that it is unfair for people to continue to label him as a nut and so forth.  I believe that this woman was too young when she got married and now she wants to have that excitement in her life that she didn't have then.  In conclusion, I hope that jeffrey receive that help that he needs so that he can move on with his life.

 

p.s.  and what kind of wife exposes herself on myspace in a bikini, doesn't she know that this would encourage him to continue his behavior, not that it is entirely her fault, but it goes to show that this woman is not entirely innocent in this whole thing.

 

Granted she did have an affiar which is WRONG but in shape or form should she have to endure what this guy has put her through. The point of the show is that he is OBSESSED with her.  I liked obsessed is a mild word compared to how this guy acted.  Most men who have been cheated on would just file for divorce and move on with their lives but he did everything in his power to keep her under his control which is not healthy.  I am not saying that her affair didn't start this behavior but he still has no right to control someone like this.
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:30 am PDT

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 This women needs to divorce this man and get a protection order for her and her kids.  This man is a danger to himself and the family.  She is beautiful and young and could do much better.  This needs to end now before we see her and her kids on Nancy Grace.  And not to mention where is this mans family and why have they  not stepped in to protect this women and their grandkids?  This man is ill and needs years of inpatient treatment if he would ever like to live a normal life and have a new family.  Which in my opinion the man needs to be snipped and placed in a state hospital.
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:30 am PDT

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Yes, Jeffery is mentally ill.  My question is this....How can they live so well and he purchase such expensive equipment when she doesn't work and he neglects his stupid business and watches her all day and night?  Where does the money come from to pay living expenses and for that beautifull house?  Jeffery needs to be locked up in a mental institution and Jen needs to move on and get counseling so she can have a backbone.
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:36 am PDT

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First, I would like to state that  no one deserves to be treated in the way that jennifer is being treated.  However, this woman is not innocent.  Dr. phil has not once examined her part in all of this.  I know that if Dr. phil tries, it will seem as if he is trying to make an excuse for the husband's behavior.  It was stated that his behavior started before she cheated on him, and that may be the truth, but now I believe that for a long time this woman wanted to move on and now that she has help from the dr. phil show, she is taking full advantage of it.  Jeffrey stated that he discovered a voice message from a guy stating that he was thinking about jennifer and he assumes that she is in the shower so when she get the message for her to return it.  I think that once this woman cheated the first time, she continued to sneak around, and that is why he continues to monitor her.  She doesn't even have the decency to wait until they are separated before she begins to speak to other men,  It is clear that Jeffrey needs help.  However, I think that it is unfair for people to continue to label him as a nut and so forth.  I believe that this woman was too young when she got married and now she wants to have that excitement in her life that she didn't have then.  In conclusion, I hope that jeffrey receive that help that he needs so that he can move on with his life.

 

p.s.  and what kind of wife exposes herself on myspace in a bikini, doesn't she know that this would encourage him to continue his behavior, not that it is entirely her fault, but it goes to show that this woman is not entirely innocent in this whole thing.

 

How can Dr. Phil ,or anyone else for that matter, even consider looking at the wife's role in this situation at this point in time.  Regardless of what this woman may or may not have done... someone in their right mind would not have reacted with the extreme behavior that her husband is displaying.  Totally out of control.  Scary!!!!!!!  I pray that this woman and her children are offered protection by the Dr. Phil show.  Her husband is a very sick man.  He is a ticking time bomb.  No one in life is perfect and I'm sure that the wife in this situation has made her mistakes.  However, her husbands reactions are so totally unpredictable and emotional that I believe that he is capable of physically harming his wife and children.  God bless this family and especially the children
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:40 am PDT

Keep strong

Jennifer Keep Strong ,

I just saw what you have gone through and I hope you and your children are safe.

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 8:44 am PDT

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You need to get her out NOW.  You never know when he could just kill her because he thinks he will never get her back. At the begining I thought I should give him a chance to turn around and get well, but there is no hope for him.  I feel that he would hurt or god forbid kill her and then say he did not mean to he just wanted to be with her and then kill himself.  I don't think it is healthy for her to be in that marriage any longer.  Nor is it healthy for her children.  Help her get out and get on her own and get him far far away from her as you can.  They should not be together, and I feel he will not want to give her up easy.  Thanks Katie

 
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May 11, 2007, 8:45 am PDT

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Not that what he is doing is right. it's not, but she shouldn't of cheated on him in the first place. when she made the decision to sleep with someone else she should of left than. sounds like the foolishness didn't start til she had the affairs. she also needs to get real. it takes two to make it or break it.
I dont think I seen anywhere on the show that he proved that she was cheating although I do believe she was trying to find anyway out of this marriage even if it was to be with another man I guess you would have to be abused to understand why she would look to another man to try to find a way out of this crazy marriage. although there was something that bothered me at the end of fridays show that knowing how crazy he was why in the world would you taunt him with the pictures of you and other men on the internet I dont believe your friends posted them I believe you did.And that is not a good way to protect your children by sending him over the edge to hurt your family .But anyways GOOD FOR YOU I,M PROUD OF WHAT YOU DID AND WISH I HAD YOUR COURAGE GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN his asuming you cheated was no excuse for his actions
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:48 am PDT

Does anybody know...

... how hard of a thing it would be to get this lunatic committed? 

Jennifer will have to spend the rest of her life looking over her shoulder unless someone gets this guy institutionalized.  My question is, exactly how hard of a thing is that to accomplish? 
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:49 am PDT

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 When I started watching the show it just blew me away. It was describing how my marriage was. I was in a relationship for 11 years going thru the same thing. He would put voice activated tape players in my car, around the house. He tapped my phone. He would put up a cam corder to record both doors to see who came or went. If I worked he thought I was going out on him and if i stayed home he thought the same. I couldnt even sit outside. He cost me a couple jobs. Finally I cracked under the pressure. I now suffer from Panic disorder, depression, agoraphobia. It took 11 years to get away from him. I had gotten EPOs against him over the yrs. But even after leaving him. I still had to have his imput on what to do. After all the years of having to look to him for all the decisions. I had been programed to do just that. He let me know I was a nothing and I deserved everything that happened. He even told mr that God had taken away my 16 year old son to punish me for leaving him. I'm still messed up.

Wow... my heart goes out to you.  Thank God that Dr. Phil's show brings all these situations out in the open.  I feel that it helps others who are going through similar situations.  It lets others know that they are not alone with there demons.  Abuse is a strange thing.  It happens over time and then one day you wake up and say "what's happened to my life?".  It is so gradual that little by little the unacceptable becomes acceptable.  Been there..... done that.  I think that every night  it's important to take a quick look back at the day and evaluate the days events.  This way nothing slips by without giving it some thought.  Otherwise... one event leads into another and before you know it it's an overwhelming mountain and not merely a situation.

Best of luck to you.  My prayers are with you. 

 
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May 11, 2007, 8:51 am PDT

Yes, this is abuse not love

 I have followed the three shows about "obsessive love".  The show should have another title, something like "Obsessive Abuse".  In the first two shows I heard the word "abuse" mentioned twice.  Abuse was mentioned more in the last show. I understand the need for Jeff to buy into the whole therapy idea with the hope of repairing the marriage, but I must say that I do not believe he ever had that intention. 
Having lived with an abuser for 20 years, I am familiar with their tricks.  They will say and do anything to remain in control of people, events and attitudes of others in order to perpetuate their goal...... keeping the spouse down under their thumb.  Please let Jen know that she is not alone and she does not have to take this ever again.  I too received countless phone calls day and night even after having a no contact order.  It is just another manipulation. 
The man that was on the first two shows was the person he wanted us to see.  The man on the third show was closer to the real guy, a user and  manipulator.  Gone was the crying sad little boy replaced by a control freak in overdrive. I thought it was very telling his attitude as he left the show and snapped his fingers as he demanded his bags be put in the SUV. He was in charge and he knew it. He never had any intention to go back to the treatment center.  He brought his ID and means (checks) to buy a ticket to get home.  I believe alot of the drama is created by him to keep people confused especially Jen.
My ex had to be arrested twice for violating a no contact order.
You can imagine the fear my children and I had as he banged on the door demanding to be let in.  As he was arrested and put in handcuffs he blamed me saying,"Look what you are doing to me."Ultimately they feel  it is all about them with no consideration for the other people in their lives that they are hurting.  They claim to be the victims. 
Jen's husband only wanted to get home to set up more cameras and again check her phone and again use his influence on her.  OMG this guy is an abuser plain and simple.  There may be mitigating circumstances in his mental health, but the fact remains that his actions are abusive and he must be stopped.
Jen, I am sending you all my strength and love.  You go girl!!!! Good luck !

 
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