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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 8:52 am PDT

Too young

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You are SO right about the affair NOT causing this; the man is sick and dangerous. However, this 'act of self preservation" you state is not correct.

 

Affairs are ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS incredibly selish. If her intent were "self preservation," it would make more sense to get away, not add fuel to the fire. And yes, I do have an "ounce of intelligence" (much more than that:).

 

Correct again....Jennifer is NOT to blame for this man's mental problems. It's sad that she were not wiser and stronger, but then again he picked her (at the young age of 19) becuase he wanted someone he could control.

Affairs are always wrong, but look at Jennifer today.  Who knows what state of mind she was in after being manipulated and mentally abused by  this predator.  Look at the extreme extent of his "insecure" behavior.  I still say that the affair had nothing to do to with his already mentally ill, predatory, sick mind. If you watch Dr. Phil, then you know that many people (not all) can come back from an affair and work things out with proper counseling.  Many couples don't want their marriages to end and are normal enough to work toward that end.  It was apparent from the beginning of this story that the "affair" was not this couples' problem.  We are dealing with a mentally ill person who has gone undiscovered until recently and who, at the very least, should be put in residential treatment for a long time to prevent him from harming Jennifer and the children and lastly him self.  His conversation on the show yesterday fortells a terrible accident ready to happen.  I pray for Jennifer and her children and hope that they remain safe.  At this point in the game the only thing that matters is their safety, not some "affair".

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May 11, 2007, 8:53 am PDT

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My 1st husband was just like that untill he killed himself but I was afraid everytime he took the kids after I left him because it didnt stop.He would take them and then follow me to see if I was with someone else It hurts to get hit and have some one watching you all the time. He would call me from his cell and say look out you bedroom widow and he would be standing ther and that was 12 year of hell .  She needs to get away far away.

Yes, this sounds like my first husband as well... we finally did get a divorce.. I don't know where I found the strength, because I had NO ONE... He even had my family convienced over a period of 10 years, until the last 2 or 3 months when my dad caught him in the act. By then, my dad was living 2000 miles away, and was just at our home for a visit.  I was alone, with 3 kids. Social Services would not help me, because I made to much money in their book, but not enough to pay my bills, or afford day care, and I had a vehicle that was worth over the allowence for help.  It was a mess... I finally appliced for legal aid and got that, somehow!! I had numerous restraining orders, pictures I had hidden of me beaten, as well as having him arrested several times for domestic violence. He would stalk me, take his car and hit mine in the bumper, to get my attention, leave notes on my car window, call my employeer. When there was a court order in effect, he would wait for me to go to work, and then come to the house, he still had a key, because he refused to give it up, and move stuff around in the house, whether it was my night gown from the bathroom to the bed, or the stuff in the fridge, he would re-arrange things, just to let me know he had been there.  He had been obsessed with me since I was 12, and at the time he was 17!!  When I was in high school, he would follow the bus to school, come to the school at lunch, and watch me through the gate, follow the bus home, tried all the time to get me to have sex with him, until he finally got me to give in, then I was HIS property.  Everytime I was out of his site, when I came home he would search my clothes and smell my under garments.. He was always trying to get me to have sex with his friends or other relatives.. He has visitation with the children, who are  now 15, 13 and 13.. all 3 boys, who think there dad is their best friend.. I can not forget what he done to me, I still have nightmares, and it has been 8 years since our divorce. I'm sorry, but this just brought back old memories. I think Jennifer will be just fine with the support she has, and I wish her the best of luck and love!! Jeffery needs to be in prision, or in a nut house!!!
 
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May 11, 2007, 8:56 am PDT

So, following your thinking to an almost foregone conclusion

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First, I would like to state that  no one deserves to be treated in the way that jennifer is being treated.  However, this woman is not innocent.  Dr. phil has not once examined her part in all of this.  I know that if Dr. phil tries, it will seem as if he is trying to make an excuse for the husband's behavior.  It was stated that his behavior started before she cheated on him, and that may be the truth, but now I believe that for a long time this woman wanted to move on and now that she has help from the dr. phil show, she is taking full advantage of it.  Jeffrey stated that he discovered a voice message from a guy stating that he was thinking about jennifer and he assumes that she is in the shower so when she get the message for her to return it.  I think that once this woman cheated the first time, she continued to sneak around, and that is why he continues to monitor her.  She doesn't even have the decency to wait until they are separated before she begins to speak to other men,  It is clear that Jeffrey needs help.  However, I think that it is unfair for people to continue to label him as a nut and so forth.  I believe that this woman was too young when she got married and now she wants to have that excitement in her life that she didn't have then.  In conclusion, I hope that jeffrey receive that help that he needs so that he can move on with his life.

 

p.s.  and what kind of wife exposes herself on myspace in a bikini, doesn't she know that this would encourage him to continue his behavior, not that it is entirely her fault, but it goes to show that this woman is not entirely innocent in this whole thing.

 

that Jennifer's 'part in it' would mean she should continue to be abused.  Possibly physically injured or worse. 

 

Why are you so willing to give Jeffrey a pass?  There is no justification for his behavior.  She could have had all the men in her community on the town square in broad daylight and still not deserved this treatment. 

 

Last time I checked, adultery was not a capital offense. 

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 8:57 am PDT

So Much For Creative Care

Dr. Phil says Creative Care in Malibu  is a top notch facility...

Since Jeffrey is using all kinds of electronic devices to spy on his wife.

How could Creative Care let him use a computer or telephone

It just dosen't make any sense

It's like someone getting their drug of choice while in rehab...

 
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May 11, 2007, 9:01 am PDT

what the ....

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I find it very interesting that Jeff was the one who wrote the Dr Phil show asking for the help. So many people judge him. I think that is very very sad. We do not know all of the facts by watching the show. He also was quite forthcoming with all of the crap he was doing. He admits it all. He honestly said he would much rather be working in his job than being his own private dectective to watch his wife.

 

I think he really wanted to have a normal family life with his wife and kids. I think he really wanted Dr Phil to HELP HIM get exactly that. I think if Jeff had a normal life with his wife and kids he would be a good Father, a good husband, and a good provider. That came through in the first show.

 

I thought it was sad that there was no applause when he walked upon the stage this evening. He was still a guest on the show and has been willing to share his personal life with all of us.

You judgemental people make me sick.

 

Dr Phil's attorney for Jeffs wife also makes me sick. He was made out to be a good guy doing a really good thing.  NOT! 

 

Its sad that Jeff did'nt just hire CHEATERS to watch his wife. Then our media  brainwashed culture would not be able to judge him and call him nuts for trying to hang onto his wife and family.

 

What do you thing would happen if Jen just woke up one day and said. "I love my husband and will do anything to show him that I absolutely love him as my man and the father of my children and make him feel absolutely secure in our love and relationship"  AND backed it up with whatever the hell he needed to feel safe and secure in his relationship with her?

 

Her myspace page has a new entry telling everybody she is MARRIED and TOTALLY COMMITTED to her husband. and gets pictures like he posted of happy times with the WHOLE family.

 

What Jeff needs you bunch  of judgemental apes, is a woman who is not looking over his shoulder at other DUDES. Which, unfortunately, she is doing, probably because he married her

at such a young age 19 and now she is naturally curious about other men.

 

Jeff needs to realize that with his two kids he will always be in her life regardless. He also needs to shut the hell up about what he is thinking on the inside and stop sharing it with people who are only going to screw him over for it.

 

What he is feeling is totally natural for a man who is losing his wife to her wandering eye of 30 and married at 19.

 

Let her go dude, This aint workin!  I know you thing you discovered plutonium but there are other

beautiful women out there if she will not love you properly as you tried to love her before it all started to go sideways.

 

I dont think he will ever harm her because I believe he truely does love her more than he loves his own desire for her. Just one mans opinion. 

Best of luck Jeff, you have a difficult road ahead but you ARE QUITE INTELLIGENT. 

Put those smarts to work to improve your situation and life for you and everyone around you.

 

Definca

Jeff was so forthcoming because he didn't think what he was doing was that off the chain..!!!  He even said I'm sure other men are doing the same things...if you really think  this is OK for a man to do then please seek help for yourself...!!!! because you need help....in NO way ....what he is doing OK...!!! men do not own women.    when you get married you are partners equal ...not one above  the other...now if you are from a foreign Country? I'm thinking you see women as something you have control over! guess what  (NOT)....If you want to keep a wife then you treat her with LOVE & RESPECT...!!!! Jeff is not a smart man....nor is he intelligent...he lost his marriage... contact with his kids.   He's in jail now that's not smart. he is a danger to himself  to his children  and to jen.
 
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May 11, 2007, 9:05 am PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

that guy is a damn nut.... needs to be put away....

before he hurts someone... like jen or the kids...

 
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May 11, 2007, 9:10 am PDT

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I find it very interesting that Jeff was the one who wrote the Dr Phil show asking for the help. So many people judge him. I think that is very very sad. We do not know all of the facts by watching the show. He also was quite forthcoming with all of the crap he was doing. He admits it all. He honestly said he would much rather be working in his job than being his own private dectective to watch his wife.

 

I think he really wanted to have a normal family life with his wife and kids. I think he really wanted Dr Phil to HELP HIM get exactly that. I think if Jeff had a normal life with his wife and kids he would be a good Father, a good husband, and a good provider. That came through in the first show.

 

I thought it was sad that there was no applause when he walked upon the stage this evening. He was still a guest on the show and has been willing to share his personal life with all of us.

You judgemental people make me sick.

 

Dr Phil's attorney for Jeffs wife also makes me sick. He was made out to be a good guy doing a really good thing.  NOT! 

 

Its sad that Jeff did'nt just hire CHEATERS to watch his wife. Then our media  brainwashed culture would not be able to judge him and call him nuts for trying to hang onto his wife and family.

 

What do you thing would happen if Jen just woke up one day and said. "I love my husband and will do anything to show him that I absolutely love him as my man and the father of my children and make him feel absolutely secure in our love and relationship"  AND backed it up with whatever the hell he needed to feel safe and secure in his relationship with her?

 

Her myspace page has a new entry telling everybody she is MARRIED and TOTALLY COMMITTED to her husband. and gets pictures like he posted of happy times with the WHOLE family.

 

What Jeff needs you bunch  of judgemental apes, is a woman who is not looking over his shoulder at other DUDES. Which, unfortunately, she is doing, probably because he married her

at such a young age 19 and now she is naturally curious about other men.

 

Jeff needs to realize that with his two kids he will always be in her life regardless. He also needs to shut the hell up about what he is thinking on the inside and stop sharing it with people who are only going to screw him over for it.

 

What he is feeling is totally natural for a man who is losing his wife to her wandering eye of 30 and married at 19.

 

Let her go dude, This aint workin!  I know you thing you discovered plutonium but there are other

beautiful women out there if she will not love you properly as you tried to love her before it all started to go sideways.

 

I dont think he will ever harm her because I believe he truely does love her more than he loves his own desire for her. Just one mans opinion. 

Best of luck Jeff, you have a difficult road ahead but you ARE QUITE INTELLIGENT. 

Put those smarts to work to improve your situation and life for you and everyone around you.

 

Definca

Sounds like this is coming directly from Jeffrey's mouth if you ask me and how did you find her MySpace page when she said on the show it was private??????  Strange.  Very Strange.
 
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May 11, 2007, 9:10 am PDT

I'm happy the jerk is finally in jail

That man is crazy.  Jen won't feel safe unless he he locked up for good.  I sure do hope the b@stard does not get out of jail after 60 days.  He is a danger to Jen.  I think she should go into a witness protection type program.  This man does not need to be out of jail. He has shown that he can't be reformed.

 

 

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May 11, 2007, 9:12 am PDT

Give Jeffery some time

This guy needs some time to process. He did not get the way he is today overnight. This situation between the both of them has been building up for years and years.  It likely did not start out this way, as the earlier pictures of them both seem to show them as a cute happy couple. They have two beautiful kids together.

 

Many of the comments here make me sick. I am wondering if the roles were exactly reversed would you be excusing her actions because he is not loving her? We have a double standard in our society. Men are not allowed to expect women to be held accountable.

 

What about the vows she made to "forsake all others" ?

If she had honored her wedding vows, would Jeffery be doing what he is doing?

 

We dont have all of the facts. We have not had the cameras in their house for the past 10 years  watching who STARTED this unfortunate series of events.  He may have been unstable to begin with, he may not have. He may have been being a good man to his wife and kids and she just decided to go out and sow the wild oats, which is destroying this man.  We do not know for sure

who is at fault. So why not just work from here, where we know what the facts of today are.

 

First, the kids are number one. lets not forget that THEY need a FATHER in their lives.

 

Lets not be so quick to kick Jeffery to the curb he's not on meth

 

 

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 9:13 am PDT

This is a very scarry guy!

While I was watching this show last night, I realized that I was hyperventalating.  I was brought back to a time in my life that I was treated in a similar way from a boyfriend.  I was able to cut all ties to this person only because he had diabetes and lost his legs.  I know that sounds harsh but I truly feel if that wasn't the case I would still be dealing with this person.  I felt sorry most of the time for things that were not my fault nor did I have any control over.  He played the sympathy card over and over until I gave in to him.  It was a toxic relationship and I would not wish that on anyone. 

 

This woman must find the strength to leave and go far away.    I see her feeling sorry and guilty for him.  She does care for him after all she married and had kids with him.  She has to be stronger then his obsession if she and her kids are to survive this ordeal.  I hope that she takes the help offered and doesn't look back because this guy is toxic to everyone around him.  

 

 
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