Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

although i know in many ways it seems so unreal to so many, this is exactly the hell some of us live with every day - hiding doesnt help, they find ways to find you even when you rely on strangers - there is no help, none at all, actually not even little papers to try to hold up as a shield to block - anything, did you know that here in dallas they require the one complaining to find and get close enough to the one threatening so that we come up with his address and his workplace before they will even take you seriously

well welcome to my hell, now imagine that situation without finances, without private detectives...

you know what happens?

she gets raped, she gets beaten, all in the name of love just like everything else that went on in the decade she stayed to keep the peace because she could never find any help at all

she gets her kids on default - in court - and finally gets the attorney general out of the picture so they are stirring up more flames that come back to bite her - and yet nothing changes - even when the threats stop, and the attacks end - its all right there, in her head, picking up where he left off - and she is damaged goods forever

To all of you who are siding with Jeffrey:

You are as sick and twisted as he is!  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read up on everything before you post.  Her behavior has nothing to do with his behavior.  She was 19 when they married, He was 30.  He was looking for someone to control.  If she had an affair or not, has nothing to do with his insanity.  My mother married my father when she was 18 and he was 20, back in 1963.  He beat her, abused her, removed her from her family, wouldn't let her have a job, he kept her isolated.  He tried to kill her many, many, many times.  It started out subtle, and then it becomes what it is.  We ran, we hid, but he found us!  My mom tried to stand up to him many times and was beaten and strangled to near death.  In 1975 she finally left him.  My father accused my mother of having affairs many times, and they weren't true.  One guy gave his number to my mother on a match book (she smoked back then).  My father found it and threw a glass at her head, cutting her head so bad that she needed stitches.  She didn't go to the hospital because he told her when she left he would take us and she'd never see her children again.  I saw the entire episode, I was 8 years old then, and I remember it all, I saw my mother's face covered in blood and she begged me to go back to bed.  SO FOR ALL OF YOU WHO THINK JENNIFER DIDN'T CRY ENOUGH, SHE LAUGHED INAPPROPRIATELY, OR THAT SHE EGGED HIM ON - SHE DID NOT!  SHE WENT OUT WITH FRIENDS TO BLOW OFF A LITTLE STEAM, GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK.  IT IS SO EASY TO JUDGE UNTIL YOU'VE WALKED IN HER SHOES!  I AM 43 YEARS OLD NOW, AND AM DIVORCED BECAUSE I SPENT SO MUCH TIME MAKING SURE I DIDN'T MARRY A PHYSICAL ABUSER, I ENDED UP WITH AN EMOTIONAL ABUSER.  I am now remarried to the sweetest kindest man in the world - and by the way so did my mom (she's married 21 years now to a kind gentle man).

SO JENNIFER, MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN, I WAS A CHILD ON THE RUN WITH MY MOM AND I KNOW THE FEAR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN LIVE WITH!

So, think before you post! 

PS:  To all you women out there in an abusive situation, there is help, reach out in your area, there are safe houses and shelters that will help you.  There are people who care, just not some who think they know it all!

Terri

I can't believe you're putting ANY blame on Jennifer! That makes no sense whatsoever! That was a very long time ago. And many, *many* people have been cheated on way in the past *without* going absolutely flat-out crazy like Jeffrey has! Give me a break!

He's a control freak; he's completely crazy! He SO creeps me out! I don't think Jennifer should ever be near him again--he's WAY over the edge! I've never seen anyone on Dr. Phil's show--or any other show--who creeps me out as much as this guy. IF he even gets to see his children (& he probably will), he should definitely be supervised--by someone who can make sure he doesn't try to grab the kids & run. Poor kids! Blaming it on Jennifer is so wrong! We all make mistakes; we're all human. It's NOT her fault! Dr. Phil said that & I completely agree.

This is a guy who will do ANYTHING to feed his obsession. If he doesn't do anything (& I pray he doesn't) to put himself in jail, he should definitely be committed. There's something terribly wrong with this man! And he doesn't even know it! He has no idea how nuts he is! That's why he's so dangerous! Even her lawyers agreed that she had to leave her house to get away from Jeffrey. I've been in therapy (after my dad died), and, believe me, from what I know, docs are NOT eager to label someone "crazy." But his doctor SAID he was crazy!

Jennifer, you & your children are in my thoughts & prayers. Please know that you have a lot of people praying for you! hug I wish I could help you more. If you ever need to just talk, contact me at joyjoybinks43@yahoo. com (but take the space out before "com"). That's my alternate email address--not my main one, but I'll check it.

Jeffrey is obviously completely out of it--crazy! I don't know if even Creative Care can help Jeffrey; he's still manipulating & lying. He's crazy enough to think she's having an affair...when would she have time for that with all he's putting her through?? He's INSANE! For those of you who don't get it, JEFFREY IS COMPLETELY INSANE! He's a creep who isn't normal! I'm just so glad that Jennifer has Dr. Phil & her lawyer's help--and now a judge. Thank God that he's been exposed for the insane weirdo that he is.

And I just saw that he's in jail. Great!! That's exactly where he should be! I just hope he stays there for a very, very long time! Total nutcase!

Joy

yea well let  him process in jail!! I hope a judge gets to take a look at the taped shows and keeps this lunatic away from Jennifer and her kids forever.  He is  not a drug addict he is dangerous to his wife, children and anyone else who tries to help her and the children.

DR. Phil,

I realize your job is to counsel couples to help them save their marriages, but come on!!  I think this is what drives me crazy about your show. 

Most of the people who come to your show are in marriages that are beyond saving.  You provide all this professional help so that you can drag it all out for ratings. I am not against the need for the help you offer, but really, offer it to the woman ( or man) to end the marriage not stay in the marriage.  I don't care if the divorce rate is what it is, most of these couples should never have married in the first place. Love does not conquer all, Love alone does not constitute a reason to stay in an unhealthy marriage.  What is your success rate anyway?  Out of all the married couples you have counseled over the years, how many have actually stayed married successfully??

 This is a perfect example.   This guy, Jeffrey, is a lunatic!!!  Jennifer needs to get out and she should have gotten out years ago!!!  She has been beaten down so low, she is a poster child for abused women.  She may not have a bruise on her body, but the abuse she has dealt with is almost worse in some ways. 

I hope and pray that Jennifer will find her way out of this marriage and get the help she needs so that she sees that her love is worth so much more than what this man could ever afford.  She is worth more and it is time she show this to her children.  She is giving them the wrong message by staying in a marriage that is dead.  I hope this episode ends with Jennifer coming on your stage with the self esteem she needs to provide for herself and her children.  Only then will she attract a man that is worthy of her love.

I am delighted Jeffrey is where he finally where he belongs...behind bars!   I hope the  judge gives him whatever maximum sentence they have for everything he has done.  I think they should also file kidnapping charges for the basement incident.  It is illegal to hold anyone against their will in any state.  He needs to rot in jail for a very long time ...preferably life. 

There is nothing wrong with a woman going out during a divorce.  So what if she had a picture taken with a man!  I think it is great to see a smile on her face and to see her self-esteem returning.  She deserves happiness.  She isn't a cheater and never was.  Now, she is free to lead a relatively normal life for the first time in a decade.  My  hope for her is to find a decent man who will truly cherish her and the children.  Congratulations, Jennifer!!  Enjoy life to the maximum now!!