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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 2:47 pm PDT

Amen!

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Housekeeper, you need a hair dryer to thaw that heart? 

 

As an emergency services provider who deals with abused spouses on a regular basis, I can say with an almost expert opinion that you have no clue what these women go through.  They are beat down physically and mentally.  It's akin to being held prisoner in a concentration camp.  They live in constant fear for their lives and those of their children, and will do anything to try and appease their abuser so they can get 5 minutes of peace in their lives.

 

Have some compassion and think to yourself how damaging your comments would be to someone who is being abused.  Look at the statistics regarding spousal abuse...like how often it goes unreported until something major happens, and how many abused wives get murdered by their abusive husbands. 

 

 

Thanks for your comments (emergency services provider)!

The only way one can truly understand is if they have walked in their shoes,or know of others that have been through it, etc.  Hindsight is always 20/20 as they say. A lot of times, people cannot see things clearly when they are in the midst of the situation.

Some personalities can see those warning signs in advance, others unfortunately cannot. I think in part, it depends on the upbringing. If you grew up in an environment like that, you may think that is normal. Some people feel pressured to be married, or some want to be married so badly, they aren't so selective. Some people are REALLY good at the manipulation game that they have a LOT of people fooled.  There are SOOOOOOO many factors/variables & I am sure I don't know even the half of it!!!!!!

My husband once told me that he met a girl that had just left an abusive type of relationship and he dated her for a short time. She actually went back into that abusive relationship, because she didn't know how to handle someone who treated her like she ought to be treated. That is VERY SAD & seems inconceivable, but unfortunately,  it is true! He has seen others do the same! I am pretty certain he told me a number of years ago that in one particular part of the U.S., a woman had to be NEAR DEATH 7 times before she would get out of the situation!  Yes, I said 7 times!
 
When my current husband & I met, I was in turmoil about the relationship I was in at the time.  I told him about the situation & he gave me space & didn't want to get in the middle. He left it up to me to call him if I wanted to. I eventually did & am SOOO glad!!!

I felt something was not right about the other relationship , but didn't know what it was. It was difficult, too, because I was quite naive. I was told the guy was a good Christian fellow by some mutual friends (or so they thought!).  It wasn't til I started to ask for space that I knew for sure something was wrong! He didn't like it in the least! The more I pulled away, the worse it got! Excessive calls, bugging me to death at work, etc... to the point I had to file affidavits, etc...That was really hard to do as I didn't think the situation was THAT bad. It just seemed to be extreme measures. It wasn't long after that when I realized what I did was the RIGHT thing to do & I was NOT extreme meaures.

As I looked back on the very short relationship we had (which was NOT short enough!!!!!!), I then saw the "red flags/warning signs" that I had missed. The friends that introduced us felt so bad as they had no idea. They found out later he had them fooled about a great number of other things!

My heart goes out to all who are in this type of situation & my prayer is that all will get out quickly & safely while you still can!



 
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May 11, 2007, 2:47 pm PDT

Jeffrey too far gone

I'm sorry, but I think Jeffrey is definitely too far gone for any more air time to be wasted on him.  Jennifer needs to go underground through a battered womens program, get a new identity for herself and her kids, and she will still need to keep her fingers crossed that Jeffrey will never find her.  With all of the things he has done to date, I hate to say that I don't believe she is safe anywhere as long as he is breathing on this earth.  I used to work for a non-profit agency that ran a battered womens program and shelter.  He is definitely one of the worst cases I have seen or heard of.  I would be interested to find out what sort of life Jeffrey had growing up -- which, don't get me wrong, is no excuse for his behavior.  This whole story is just bizarre, scary, and very hard to digest.

 

Jennifer, please put yourself and your kids first.  I am very worried about you.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

can't Dr. Phil provide more protection for her

Couldn't Dr. Phil have provided Jennifer with a private plane to get her back home ahead of Jeffrey rather than make her go through all the stress of getting to the airport, getting on a plane and having to sit with passengers who have no idea what she is going through.  I can't imagine her fear of the unknown while she was sitting scared to death that he would be there when she got home.  And then to have to go in and face him alone (with her kids there).  Weren't they supposed to be watched by a babysitter who told Jennifer she would do what she had to to protect her children.  What was up with that.  Couldn't Dr. Phil have provided some protection for her.  It was like he put her on this show in front of millions of viewers and offered to help her start a new life and help her get a divorce by hiring a lawyer for her.  Why couldn't he have gone a little further and provided her with some type of bodyguard.  She could have walked in and gotten shot right then and there by this crazy man.  It's very generous of Dr. Phil to offer to help her so far but he should go the distance and protect her more now that all this publicity has gotten Jeffrey more crazy.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

Missed something!

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Get that woman out of that marriage NOW! And get full custody of her children as well so that she wouldn't have to put up with his crap anymore! I just knew in my heart he hasn't changed. People like him make me so sick!
Yes she needs to get out of the marriage. I thought in show 1 they said she had an affair on him, not sticking up for him, but that could help push him over the edge. Not wise to take photos with another man while all this is going on, of course he would think she is hooking up with somebody. She is well rid of him though, he could not change.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

Jeffrey went to Dr Phil

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Coldlamper wrote: " What would Dr. Phil do if his wife was posting bikini pics on myspace, hugging on men who she just met 5 minutes before?"

Oh, I don't know, probably he would call Robin 13 times in the space of a few hours in violation of an order of protection.  Also, he would break into a house in violation of a no-contact order and steal her underwear.  He would reactivate all his hidden cameras.  Also, he would make sure to steal any money  or credit cards his wife had in her possession.  And if he got Robin on the phone,  he would tell her he was in the woods near the house and was going to hurt or kill himself if she didn't come talk to him.   If she didn't come out into the woods alone,  he would run to California to escape prosecution while helicopters and bloodhounds searched the woody area.  He would buy time by leaving his car, ID, and clothes behind, as if he had jumped into the creek and drowned.   When discovered, he would tell police and his wife that he was coming back on x date to turn himself in, and make sure to come back days before that, and keep an eye on Robin.  That is,  till the police spotted him by chance few miles from his wife's place.

Wouldn't anybody?


Jeffrey wrote to the show, not Jennifer.  He believed Dr Phil would admonish her and tell her shame on her and you need to be with your husband.  When he didn't get what he wanted, he went more ballistic.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

on the run

 

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 i watched the show for the last 3 days and in my opinion this woman really played everyone even her husband she probablly has been cheating on him for awhile now and i bet she put him up to asking you for help and told him that it would help there marriage when she seen this as a cheap way out .

nobody takes a picture with some one that they just met and they looked like they were already in love with each other .

if it's to be known probablly jeffery now's all about this man that's the reason he wanted her to leave ohio right away.

by the way jeffery did not leave her broke they were already broke ..

she was going to pay the cab jeffery wrote a bad check. i believe she made him this way and he's the one who really needed the help she wanted out needed money and played the game to get it ...in my opinion jeffery didn't have a fighting chance ..
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Coldlamper wrote: " What would Dr. Phil do if his wife was posting bikini pics on myspace, hugging on men who she just met 5 minutes before?"

Oh, I don't know, probably he would call Robin 13 times in the space of a few hours in violation of an order of protection.  Also, he would break into a house in violation of a no-contact order and steal her underwear.  He would reactivate all his hidden cameras.  Also, he would make sure to steal any money  or credit cards his wife had in her possession.  And if he got Robin on the phone,  he would tell her he was in the woods near the house and was going to hurt or kill himself if she didn't come talk to him.   If she didn't come out into the woods alone,  he would run to California to escape prosecution while helicopters and bloodhounds searched the woody area.  He would buy time by leaving his car, ID, and clothes behind, as if he had jumped into the creek and drowned.   When discovered, he would tell police and his wife that he was coming back on x date to turn himself in, and make sure to come back days before that, and keep an eye on Robin.  That is,  till the police spotted him by chance few miles from his wife's place.

Wouldn't anybody?


...you know what the scary thing is?

Most rational human beings can see this as sarcasm from a mile away.

Jeffrey's not a rational human being. 

He sees these actions as totally normal...
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:49 pm PDT

Did you even watch?

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I pray Dr. Phil does not desire to be such a hero that a woman who possesses a hidden agenda can fool him. Ray Charles could see right through Jennifer.

Did you even watch the show? It was Jeffrey that wrote to Dr. Phil and asked to be on the show.....not Jennifer. What agenda would she have if she wasn't even the one to initiate all of this? Jeffrey was the one who thought he'd be slick and pull a fast one on Dr. Phil.  Guess his plan backfired a bit. EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON!! He finally got beat at his own game!  Go Dr. Phil!!

 

Note to Dr Phil:  I think cbossladi needs your help too......he/she seems to be just as dilusional as Jeffrey.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:49 pm PDT

Sad situation

Please don't anyone take this wrong, especially since I haven't seen the final show yet but...

 

did anyone else notice when she talked about how "scared" she was, and she supposedly was

ready to cry, than tears never came out before and she changed faces immediately?  She went from being "scared" to laughing, to acting all sad, and I don't know... maybe it was just me,  but

I think there is WAY more to this couple than we are seeing...  she's also lying about something

and getting all of the sympathy from us out in tv land and the Dr. Phil show.  Something isn't right with her actions either, I just can't put my finger on it. 

 

I in NO WAY am saying what this SICKO is doing is right, but just SOMETHING is wrong with her story, and I REALLY want to know what the scoop is because I do not FULLY believe what she says.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:51 pm PDT

Jennifer needs help also

I think Jeffrey is dangerous, but I also think Jennifer LOVES the drama.  Why else would she let someone take pictures of her with other men, and post on the website.  She knew Jeffrey would see it and would add to the drama.  I think she needs counseling just as much as he does, just for different reasons.  I am surprised Dr. Phil has not seen nor commented on her actions.  She LOVES the attention and drama.
 
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