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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

This lady is crazy, why would she want to go back to the house. This man hasn't show that he has changed one bit, why is she is niave!!!! She needs to wake up...this man is sick and it doesnt take a scientist to figure out that he is going to hurt her physically.
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

If you have not been there keep quiet

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Get that woman out of that marriage NOW! And get full custody of her children as well so that she wouldn't have to put up with his crap anymore! I just knew in my heart he hasn't changed. People like him make me so sick!

 

I have been there years ago, went in hiding after I had gone to all my friends and family multiple times.  He would track me down and break in to their homes or distroy anything to get me to go back.  It isn't something YOU WILL UNDERSTAND unless it has happened to you.  Your life has been threaten and you certainly know that they will deliver.  He is just as nuts or more so.  He plays it well in front of the public and will seem like the "best guy ever" but anything will set them off.  Being stalked is not fun, 100 calls a day, at work until you nearly loose your job.  Wearing long sleeves in the summer to hide the bruising.

 

Your calling the police all hours of the day and night.  His watching your home and even laughs to the cop on the phone while he watches your house.

 

I don't believe she cheated, he would have never let her out of his sight long enough.  That is the least of the issues in that relationship.  At least there are more locations to offer help, over 30 years ago there wasn't any.  I knew of one person who's husband was a police captian and she walked the streets at night with 3 kids under 5 in the 50's because there was no one for her to go to.  I knew of one lady that laughed about a camera in an attic after seeing it in a show until she checked hers and found one. 

 

There are good men out there but they are few and far between.  Yes she needs help to have a better life for her and her kids and he needs more help than you will ever know!

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

Jeffrey needs his wife for recovery

I am totally dissatisfied with the way Jeffrey has been treated in this odeal. I believe he has been treated with disrespect. I know he has done a lot of wrongful things to his wife which he admits and he needs therapy which he is ready to work on but he needs his wife's support. Let's not forget he is obsessed. How then do we think it will be possible for him to go through this without constantly being in contact with Jennifer. I believe Jennifer needs to be in contact with her husband and assure him that everything will be ok only if he  completes his treatment, after all it is obvious that she is still willing to work out things with the father of her children
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:55 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I am not at all excluding what has happen. Jeffrey is by no means right for the way he has treated his wife HOWEVER, if she was that afraid of her husband, she would have made other arrangements to have her children taken to her mother's home, even before she boarded a plane headed back to the residence. Now as far as I am concerned, the most important task at hand would be to find safety for my children and myself, and going back to the very place that has been shared with this abusive man clearly is not a safe haven to call home anymore. Anywhere but being there at the home would be much safer then taking a chance in being hurt.....She clearly was aware that he was on his way back home because he told her that over a phone conversation they had right before she boarded a plane headed back.

Secondly, how does she find the time to post her profile on a site? That would be the very least of my concerns if I was that afraid of my abusive husband. I am well aware of domestic violence, I have been involved with domestic violence, and there's no way that anyone is going to convince me that she's as afraid as she's making out to be.

If I was being abused to the extent that had me seeking  Dr. Phil's expertise', surely I would not be running right back to the place that I was trying so desperately to escape!!!! A home should be filled with happiness, and joyful memories, so he could have the house, cars, and whatever else we shared together until we had our day in a court !

I am not taking his side in this matter, I'm just simply saying that there's always three sides to a story, yours, mines, and the truth!

 

Lashawnna A. Burney

"If I was being abused to the extent that had me seeking  Dr. Phil's expertise', "

 

She didn't seek Dr. Phil. HE did, hoping to get justification for his actions.

 

As far as what transpired in the course of getting home, she probably followed the advice of Dr. Phil et al. They probably already had made plans to sweep the home for spyware, bugs, cameras, etc., and would have needed access to the home (and perhaps the subdivision). Also, exactly how would you plan to get the children out, when they were with a sitter, who has probably been instructed to not, under ANY circumstances, let other people in the home in the parents' absence? Furthermore, she would have had to consult with an attorney licensed in her state of residence, in this case, Virginia, so everyting would be on the up-and-up when it came time to deal with child custody.

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 2:55 pm PDT

God (and Dr. Phil) Help Jennifer!

Oh my God.  After watching the show last night, I can't wait to get home and see the conclusion.  I am so glad this poor woman is being helped by Dr. Phil.  I believed in the beginning her husband was not only psychoatic/obsessive compulsive, but  is dangerous and will do anything to control her -- I really believe that now.  She needs to get as far away from him as she can, both legally and logistically.  I don't think it's even close to a good idea to allow him visitation of the children because he'll use that avenue to start all his sick, twisted manipulations.  How dare this man think he has any justification for what he is doing.  I don't know if other viewers noticed, but it seems as though he tries to control every person or situation he is in, like when he went to Creative Care and then when he came out on the stage Thursday evening and made some remark to Dr. Phil to which Dr. Phil said, "I'll run the show".  He's a psycho that needs to be put somewhere where he can't hurt or control anyone else, especially his wife and kids.   
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:55 pm PDT

Are you even aware

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Life is complex, to complex for 180 minutes of television to reveal. 

 

Jeffrey is obsessive, controlling, and potentially dangerous.  He needs help and I applaud Dr Phil for offering help regardless of the situation.  I also applaud the support to get Jennifer away from Jeffreys controlling ways.

 

However, the show has given us glimpses of Jennifer's behavior.  She has had affairs and she cheered or at least was filled with glee when the divorce attorney indicated that he could get her half of the business.  If Jeffrey was in his right mind when this all began, he should have sued her for divorce on the basis of infidelity, petitioned for full custody of the children and indicated in the legal actions that Jenifer should obtain spousal support from her new lovers.

 

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

 Are you even aware that Jennifer asked for a divorce,  at the time of the first so-called affair?  That she persued this new relationship only after deciding she wanted the marriage to Jeffrey to end ( becaue of his bizarre behaviour, not because she had a man in the wings), telling him all of the above,  and having him move away to Florida to start a new life himself?   

I too would be cheered to know that I would not be destitute with myself and 3 children to take care of...that my efforts to help with the family business weren't worthless.

FYI,  Virginia is an equitable distribution state, not a community property state.  The efforts and contributions of each party are considered in the settlement.  
 
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May 11, 2007, 2:56 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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How on this Earth could anyone think that this man's actions are justified?  It doesn't matter if she stood on a street corner and prostituted herself, she is still entitled to her privacy and dignity.  He has no right to STALK her.  I don't think he is just a danger to Jennifer, I believe he is a danger to himself, his children, and the public at large.  You know what that means. . . the loony bin.  Immediately!  Before Jennifer and her children become one more sad statistic.  Thank God he wrote in to this show.  She may have stayed and continued to accept this behavior until who knows when.  There is no excuse for violating the sanctity of your marriage, but if anyone ever had one this lady did.  She may have been reaching out for help, who knows, but I do know that he is CRAZY and needs to be committed.  Maybe the inmates will teach him a lesson or two before he gets out.  He deserves to feel afraid just like she has.  Bravo Dr. Phill for putting a big, bright spotlight on this man.  He can no longer continue this behavior without the world watching him.   

 

 

While I in no way think Jeffery's behaviour is justified, I also question deeply Jennifer staying with him so long. Some of my friends that are in abusive situations or have been in the past, were in denial, wouldn't listen to anyone, thought that they could "change" the situation, somewhat addicted to the "drama" of it all and ended up not heeding warnings and getting in deeper and deeper.  Then all of a sudden it's like they are surprised that their men are

"doing this"...

Jennifer should have walked out the day he asked her to have sex with one of his friends.(actually, there are about 100x she should have walked away).  If my husband ever started going through my email or doing the creepy crap he did to her with the cameras, I would turn on a dime and walk out the door.  (probably after chasing him down with a baseball bat!) Saying there was "no where to go" was so false as well, her mother is there. Putting up with Jeffery's crap for so long just doesnt' compute in my head. At all.

 
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May 11, 2007, 2:56 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I am not at all excluding what has happen. Jeffrey is by no means right for the way he has treated his wife HOWEVER, if she was that afraid of her husband, she would have made other arrangements to have her children taken to her mother's home, even before she boarded a plane headed back to the residence. Now as far as I am concerned, the most important task at hand would be to find safety for my children and myself, and going back to the very place that has been shared with this abusive man clearly is not a safe haven to call home anymore. Anywhere but being there at the home would be much safer then taking a chance in being hurt.....She clearly was aware that he was on his way back home because he told her that over a phone conversation they had right before she boarded a plane headed back.

Secondly, how does she find the time to post her profile on a site? That would be the very least of my concerns if I was that afraid of my abusive husband. I am well aware of domestic violence, I have been involved with domestic violence, and there's no way that anyone is going to convince me that she's as afraid as she's making out to be.

If I was being abused to the extent that had me seeking  Dr. Phil's expertise', surely I would not be running right back to the place that I was trying so desperately to escape!!!! A home should be filled with happiness, and joyful memories, so he could have the house, cars, and whatever else we shared together until we had our day in a court !

I am not taking his side in this matter, I'm just simply saying that there's always three sides to a story, yours, mines, and the truth!

 

Lashawnna A. Burney

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If I was being abused to the extent that had me seeking  Dr. Phil's expertise', surely I would not be running right back to the place that I was trying so desperately to escape!!!!

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It's not the place that's the problem.  It's the person.

Also, abuse victims cope with their abuse in different ways...some rational (go seek help, call the police, shelter, etc.), some not-so-rational (stay with the abuser for fear of the unknown is one seen quite often).

However, this statement deserves a reward of some kind:

I'm just simply saying that there's always three sides to a story, yours, mines, and the truth!


 

Amen. :)
 




 
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May 11, 2007, 2:56 pm PDT

brings back memories

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My 1st husband was just like that untill he killed himself but I was afraid everytime he took the kids after I left him because it didnt stop.He would take them and then follow me to see if I was with someone else It hurts to get hit and have some one watching you all the time. He would call me from his cell and say look out you bedroom widow and he would be standing ther and that was 12 year of hell .  She needs to get away far away.

My second husband was the same way.  Always stalking me, taking pics of me at work, said I was cheating on him(and I wasn't).  We lived in Arizona and my family was here in Louisiana.  I called a friend up and told her what was going on.  She said Louisiana had a stalking law now.  So I packed up everything I could in my car...pretended to go to work and kept driving.  Never stopping unless I had to. My mother-in-law and my sister-in-law helped me by detouring him from me till I could safely get away.  When he found out where I was...he came here looking for me but found out that this state has a stalking law . I feel for Jennifer and her kids.  I hope they put Jeffery under the jail.  He NEEDS  to stay there for a long time.  I only put up with the abuse for 7 yrs...that was long enough.  Jennifer and her kids will need help....Jennifer can do it...she seems like she is a very strong person.  Her #1 priorty is those kids now.  I'm praying for u Jennifer...good luck and God Bless You and your children.

 
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May 11, 2007, 2:56 pm PDT

obessessive.......

The more I see of this relationship the more worried I become. We have seen how it evolved, from a wedding,  turning into a sickness and how it has turned her into  a nervous, nervous person. BUT I don't think enough is being done to protect her. The cops won"t until he harms her.......... then it will be too late. A piece of paper like a restraining order is WORTHLESS. We the audiance and Dr. Phil and his staff have seen the ugly reality and she has to live it. If he is put in jail it will do no good as too many are let out and then somebody FORGOT to let the wife know. Meanwhile she ends up as a body at the morgue. Jeffery is a sick sick man. I for one would give anything to know why and how he got this way. Change her telephone number, her email address and any other he can get his hands on. HE WILL NOT STOP. DR. PHIL ARE YOU LISTENING.???????
 
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