Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

I think you are so right!  Yeah WA State!!!

Normally, I would wish for treatment to help someone withtheir out  of  control emotions but Jeffrey has proven   that he just   pretends to  want help in order to get freedom to   promote his own    agenda. 

This  man is extremely scary   and his past   actions totally bizarre and off the   wall!!!   I also   wondered  why   there wasn't anyone with Jeniffer  to  protect   her just in   case Jeffrey beat her home(which he  did.) This    story could   have had a tragic ending at  that  point.  I    don't think   Jeffrey  ever was serious about dealing  with   his   "problem"and think it was all an attempt to continue   to manipulate everyone around him.  Thus, his turnaround   after   appearing in court and  then the   appeal  to Dr.Phil   and another short stay at the treatment center.

I hope that   Jennifer is able to get his parental rights totally vacated   so   she can   move  and start over someplace else.  It would be   great  if Dr. Phil  would follow up and get   counseling for her  and her  children   to help them deal with   everything.  The fact that Jenniferhas undergone so much   emotional and mental abuse for so long  will make it   difficult for her to realize just how much  of  her  personality has been damaged by Jeffrey and she should seek  a lot of  help before   beginning to   date  again or could  easily add to her  misery.  In other   words, she needs  to get her head straight,   take  care  of her children, and get on  with   building a new life for herself. 

I wish her all the best. 

I do think if she does have a My Space account that she needs   to  end  that; she can communicate with friends and   family without  adding  all  the complications of that site

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yeah for u...This story was so 1 sided

Jeffery is disturbed.

 

Don't give him more fuel.  Lay low for a bit.  It's the right thing to do for your children and yourself.

 

Create a new email account he knows nothing about, keep in contact with your friends via this new email.  Keep it out of the public realm.  MySpace is too public.

I was surprised that the children were at the home when she returned based on her call to Jen when she was still in Los Angeles. Anyone have that answer as I was curious.

 

Sad situation, I am surprised that Creative Care let Jeff return but then he was secure so she could get more assistance. I commend Dr Phil and staff, I hope he updates us on the later outcome. Let's hope the kids are fine and this was tramatic I am sure.  Then the worry of how they would survive financially.

If I was living with that challenged person, I would have done anything possible to feel some love.  Have you ever been in an abusive relationship?  I Was?  Had an affair - was I proud of that no!!!! But at least for one instance   one tiny instance    I felt valued.  Did I need help ---- sure I did  --- got it!  And have the most amazing man!    Judge not or he shall be judged

JENNIFER,

 

MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN....HE'S LIKE A RAPID DOG!!!  THE LAWS, IN THIS COUNTRY, ARE WAY TOO LAX.  MOST MEN LIKE HIM WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN WOUND UP IN ANY FACILITY UNLESS THEY ARE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.  YET, OUT LAWS DO NOT PREVENT MEN LIKE THIS FROM KILLING THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHER IN A HEARTBEAT WITH NO PRIORS AND NO INDICATION THAT THEY WOULD DO THIS.  NOT EVEN APPEARING ON A DR. PHIL SHOW WOULD OR COULD PREVENT SUCH A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY. 

 

GOD HELP YOU AND GOD HELP THIS PATHETIC SYSTEM WE HAVE, THAT ALLOWS THESE KIND OF LUNATICS TO CARRY ON.

 

DR. PHIL...YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE POWER TO GET OUR LAWS CHANGED.  YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO PROTECT JENNIFER AND HER CHILDREN.  BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME INFLUENCE.  CARRY THIS MESSAGE TO THE SUPREME COURT WITH WHAT POWER YOU DO HAVE.  USE YOUR CONNECTIONS TO ALTER THESE LAX LAWS.  HAVE MORE SHOWS ON THIS SUBJECT AND SUBJECT THESE LUNATICS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.  THOUSANDS OF WOMEN ARE JENNIFER.  THOUSANDS MORE ARE DEAD.  THOUSANDS MORE DIE EARLY FROM STRESS.

 

PEOPLE, WE NEED TO WAKE UP HERE.  THIS IS AN ATROCITY THAT MAKES ME FEEL AS IF I LIVE IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.  COME ON...FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VOLUNTEER FOR YOUR LOCAL WOMEN'S SHELTER.  LOBBY YOUR REPRESENTATIVES.  MAKE A LITTLE DIFFERENCE AND MAYBE, TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!! 

 

I know I may get flamed for this, but I was watching todays show and what stuck out to me was how much it seemed Jennifer was enjoying all the attention. She was almost smiling when she was on the phone with Jeffrey. Some people get off on being a victim and I think Jennifer may be one of those ppl. No one can deny Jeffrey is out of control. That much is clear, but something kept Jennifer there this whole time. What prevented her from escaping to her mother's house before now? I dunno, but she sure did seem to revel in Jeffery's escalations.

Jennifer has the right to see anyone! Jeffrey has been served and has a divorce. Jen. needs to see friends, family, another man (if/when she is ready), play with her kids, have a job.....You know....a normal life.

 

She is entitled to this life and a life that is free from him and fear!!

Men like this who usually have NO BELIEF IN THEMSELVES for whatever reasons, many of which you listed above could be the reason usually gravitate towards women who have THEIR OWN issues of self esteem.  In this case, it was marrying a woman who was MUCH YOUNGER.  In some cases, men who have this problem will marry women a lot younger so they can VALIDATE themselves and feed off the woman's insecurities and that way their own down't surface.  In doing this, they gain CONTROL, which is something they don't have over themselves. 

 

I think you see this type of situation a lot more when a man marries a woman who has a weight problem and then she loses all the weight and all of a sudden he panics because she has gained control over herself and usually most of her self esteem problems are gone because of the change in her appearnce and how she and others look at her.  Then the man FREAKS out and wonders IF she is going to find someone else. 

 

I was just using that as an example, by NO MEANS am I saying that is the reason or purpose for all men marrying women who are either much younger than them or overweight.  lol  Just wanted to clarify that before I got crawled all over.