Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

...but he chose NOT to stay in therapy.  His primary objective was Jennifer, not managing his own mental problems.

Maybe you didn't notice, but he had said that he'd go back. It wasn't until after he realized that he was lied to that he freaked outas someone with a problem does, that he left treatment. I am not saying that his behavior is right at all. All I am saying is that somebody needs to look at her. If I were in anorexia treatment and someone called me fat, I'd probably relapse. If I were in treatment for Obsesive compulsive disorder, and someone lied to me, I'd probably relapse.

Do you really think that, had Jeffrey actually did all the right things to manage his mental issues, that there would have been ZERO chance for him to stay together with his wife? 

He abided by her rules, and before the second show, she had already gotten a lawyer and had decided to file. This is without hearing from him, or how he was doing.

I am surprised that Jen did not change her password.  That would be the first thing I would do...but...  I also wonder why she spends time on MYSPACE.  I would think her children would be her first priority.  I am not a huge fan of message boards....many can lead to big trouble.

In my opinion I believe that Jen contributed partly to the mess she finds herself and her children in - the posting of pictures of herself in a bathing suit, getting a phone number from a guy she met in a bar and talking with him during a 3 week period, her meeting up with "new friends" and looking a little cozy (she did post these pictures on the net) while her husband is in "rehab".  That behavior appears to me to be strange.

I think Jeffery is a nut case and has the potential to be very dangerous.  I am happy for Jen that she is finally getting help to get herself and children away from this whack job.

she should be thinking of her children first and not herself, she shouldn't be out partying she should be taking care of her children and her sittuation.

Women that are in her sittuation should gain some self respect and leave not only foe herslef but for the mental, emontional, and physical well being of her children, to teach them that it is NOT ok to treat or be treated that way or in any manner that degrates them. 

Why do we need to have ourselves out there on internet that explotes us i.e. my space, we need to be loyal wives and mothers and not polute ourselves with meaningless things like that, what does it have to do with what we should be doning, what ever happened to good old fashioned family values, and just because they are old fashioned does not mean that they need to be out dated it worked for my mother and hers and hers before that.

Why do we as women allow men to put a price on us and tell us what we need to do to be attractive and worth something, if they don't love and resoect you for who you are they not the right man for you.

He did NOT abide by the rules.. he was not to contact her. He was phoning her from 2 to 15 times per day.. sometimes till 3 am. That is NOT abiding by the rules!!

She'd already tried to file for divorce & her found the papers & destroyed them. That's when he called Dr Phil to try to 'put Jennifer straight'  & convince her to stay in the marriage.

His calling her repeatedly every day although he was not supposed to contact her would sure be proof enough for me that he wasn't serious about changing his behaviour. He continued to try to control her while he was so-called 'in treatment.' So naturally he pushed her straight to the lawyer & I do not blame her. But then, I was in a similar abusive marriage (but not this extreme)

Most abusers do NOT change; but most will agree to therapy, sometimes for months or years, in a bid to continue to manipulate their victims. This is a fact.

I didn't understand why from the beginning that Jeffrey was allowed to put out ultimatiums?  When Jeffrey was jumping in and out of cabs, and wanting to get on a plane and go home, why didn't they just let him?  Dr. Phil advised Jennifer to not give in to all Jeffrey's drama, then she and George were going to meet with Jeffrey? Jeffrey kept changing the plans...then Jeffrey hops on a plane and the rest unfolds....

Why was Jennifer allowed to take a flight from LAX.  Was it because it would have been dramatic had they bumped into each other at the airport?  Thank God it didn't happen that way. There were no other means to get Jennifer back sooner, without going through LAX? 

It is a FACT that the children AND Jennifer were both in danger in the house with Jeffrey.  Was there no one that home went with Jennifer to face that dangerous man at her home alone? 

I can not understand how in the world those children were allowed to be available to Jeffrey when he got home?  Jennifer told the babysitter, the children are in danger, take them to safety, she even advised the sitter to LEAVE the state.  I'm surprised with Dr. Phil's back up that the children were placed in danger. There were no resources availabe in that town, city or state to keep the children from Jeffrey when he got home?  I would have expected those children to be any place in the world but accessible to him? 

I am glad Jennifer called 911 to get Jeffrey out of the house, when she thought he was going to take the children. Atleast Dr. Phil gave her the confidence to do that.

Ok here is a woman who is terrifed for her life and the life of her children....she drives 2 hours to make herself and her children safe after having no sleep (why were there no resources to put them on another flight?) 

This part is sketchy at best...but at some point, I think it was after she had returned home, and supposedly Jeffery was at the center for treatment she goes to a weekend event and had her pictures taken-that were eventually put on the event website?  Why would this woman, who is bent on trying to keep herself and her children safe allow a picture of herself be taken period. How is that being precautious?