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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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worried
May 11, 2007, 5:41 pm PDT

Jeffery has a problem

After seeing the show on Friday I hope the keep Jeffery locked up for a long long time.  I am praying the his wife and childern will continue to be safe.
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:42 pm PDT

my heart goes out to you

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I am disabled from domestic violence and my abused has been traced back to when I was in my mothers womb.  I did not intenally enter any of my 3 marriages knowing they were abusive, I was just trying to gain acceptance of my mother.  Yes, they are cookie cutter of my mother.  Oh well, I know her trama and understood very well her fear, anxiety,  and her need for a few moments of smiles.  The head of Probation wanted me to change my identity fearing my safety for the rest of my life.  Only those of us who have been in that situation and have an understanding of ourselves today will ever have an understanding of the reasons we stay in these abusive relationships.  Instead of casting blame, you might consider going to a domestic violence support group to increase your insight on the matter.  Then possibly compassion will follow.  We only remain ignorant as long as we choose to be.  Who knows, the insight gained may change your life or save someone elses.  I'm sure Dr. Phil will ensure she and her children receive all the necessary counseling to assist them during this difficult time.  If I would have been allowed to watch TV, I would have probably contacted his show.  I was just trying to stay alive one more day.  I now attend IUPUI and my gpa is 3.9...so my exhusband did not break all of me, just left me crippled.  I will get a cane.

 

Please forgive me, I hope you do not mind.   I wanted to bring your post back to the front for others who do not seem to understand so that maybe they can learn. 

 

I want to tell you that I appreciate your courage to post here with all that you have been through.  I cannot imagine what it was like.

 

Congratulations on your terrific GPA!!!

 

Others who do not understand will learn from you. 

 

You show great courage and  you truly are an inspiration!

 

God bless you!!

 

love and caring...mike

 

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May 11, 2007, 5:45 pm PDT

My head hurts from watching Friday's show~

That was a tough show to watch for a lot of reasons.  Cabs, traffic, airports, panic, anxiety, underwear drawers and MYSPACE!!  Good God!  Of course the first place Jeffrey would look for Jennifer was her mother's house.  I also agree with another poster that the dialogue between Jennifer and her mother should not have happened in front of her little girls.  While it's good that Jeffrey is in jail now, it is only a temporary solution to a long time problem. 

 

My mouth dropped when I saw that picture of Jennifer and her friend.  No, not blaming the victim here, just thinking it's a bad time to log on to your MySpace account. Maybe it's time that Dr. Phil does a show on the disavantages of MySpace.  More and more of Dr. Phil's shows have exposed the MySpace drama and trouble it causes.

 
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May 11, 2007, 5:45 pm PDT

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I thought the reason for her "smiling" was that she FINALLY found the help to deal with this psycho.  That can give you a lot of confidence.  Maybe she was anxious, being filmed can make you nervous.  You can't tell someone's personality just by expressions.  Remember, JEFF was the one who wrote to Dr. Phil trying to fix HER.  This was the one chance she had to actually get away from him. 

I always hate hearing when people want to blame the victim for the assailant's outrageous behavior.  You don't blame a victim for a murderer's actions and you don't blame a woman if she's raped even if she's supposedly "asking for it" whatever the heck that's supposed to mean.  No one desserves this treatment, I don't care if she was contributing to it or not. 

That's for sure.  You can't always tell someone's personality or true feelings just by expressions.

Licking my lips can mean I either have a cold sore, food on my lip, chapped lips, or I'm a pervert, depending on who's looking.

Grunting can mean I'm either really angry, in a lot of pain, or constipated.

Honestly, I didn't even think that she could be smiling out of relief.  If a few more posts pointed out her smiling, I'd almost be convinced that she was smiling out of ill intent.
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:45 pm PDT

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Having watched both episodes I honed in on 'body language' and the lack of this man being able to even look at Dr. Phil when responding but instead closed his eyes to speak.   He certainly seems to tell ALL about his weird behaviour and obsessiveness towards his wife but I can't believe he'll change in so little time.  He is in the true sense of the word a STALKER! Do "stalkers" ever get well?  I realize Dr. Phil gave him a chance for the sake of their children and that is what seems to be necessary because afterall, he is their father but I worry about their safety too.  We read about fathers killing their children .  This show has really sent a chill up my spine.    I was completely exhausted after watching both episodes and hoping that Jennifer takes the kids and GOES!    Please help her and their kids!  She's got to get out and fast.  But where can she hide?  It seems like such an endless journey with this nut lurking around every corner. 
yes! I agree "stalker" he even made reference to wanting help so he isn't like OJ Simpson!!!! He talked about his family as if it was an object and kept saying he thought his marriage was until death do they part!!!! I fear no happy ending here, I do pray he gets help and her and the kids will remain safe!!! Anything else, he does potray himself as the typical murder suicide personality; I pray he is never alone with the children nor Jennifer!
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:47 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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I thought the help he was getting was doing to do some good but he is hiding something more deep down inside that he can control and doesn't want the clinic to know at all.  somehow for the clinic dr. to help him he has to get at that deep dark why??   there is a reason he is sooooo afraid and so obessive and now to be in jail.  I after I seen the show now,  I think it is a good thing jennifer is getting a divorce from jeff as she doesn't need this but the girls need their dad in their lives after he gets more help and he sees them with supervised visits.   Because of his stablity right now supervised visits is all that can be handled and only when a dr. says its ok though.  why put the kids thru more harm than necessary.  as least when the dr. says its ok. for visits and a supervised visit then ok.

 

But in the future how would Jeff handle another wife??  would he do this to another woman??  he needs long treatments as does the jennifer and the girls since they was they put thru it also.  Running from the dr.phil show like that when he was going back to the clinic doesn't put him into a bright spotlight at all.  he has alot of work to do to get his act together even just for himself.

 

2Nephi

Right now the biggest concern should be for the woman and children where their safety is concerned.  Her husband obviously is a sociopath with narcissist tendencies.  These type don't want to help themselves change because they get a rush out of whatever they obsess over.  Very sad situation, that occurs all over this country and the number of cases is staggering. 
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:47 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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You raised many of the same questions I was asking as I watched the show.  Why were the children with a babysitter as the drama was unfolding?  Why did Jen go home alone? Why were the police not notified in hometown in Virginia and get those kids to safety? And I did raise the question to my husband about her driving to Iowa with her children after no sleep.  Couldn't someone have sprung for plane tickets?

 

While I believe that Jeffery is a whack job, I wonder why he took off for a couple of days to go to California and be with friends if he was so obsessed with Jennifer?  I think that Jeffery played well for the camera. How much of his behavior was "acting" to an audience of 10 million!  I wonder if he ever thought he would end up in jail when he first wrote the letter to Dr. Phil!!!!!

 

Jeffery kept saying over and over that his marriage was "until death do us part".  I think that was a message to Jen that he is planning on killing her.  I had a neighbor some 15 years ago who behaved much like Jeffery and you know what--he did kill his wife.  He is now serving a life sentence with no chance of parole.

The problem is, if Jeffrey killed Jennifer, he would have no object of control (other than maybe the children).

...then again, Jeffrey doesn't seem to be the type that thinks "logically" on that level, so he could probably kill her anyway...
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:48 pm PDT

RUN!!!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I totally agree with what is being said on the boards this man is so unstable she needs to get away from him and fast before something happens to her and her kids.  This woman has been through enough and her kids and her do not deserve this kind of treatment nobody does......  I wish her and her kids a safe and happy life without him.  Thank goodness he is in jail right now and hopefully that when he goes to trail he will stay there for good at least her kids and her can feel safe.  I really think she also needs to move closer to her mom so that she also has someone else to watch her back that she can trust.  Dr.Phil you have a done a great thing in helping this woman and her kids and I want to say thank you to you and your staff for helping her and all the other people that reached out to help her and her kids.  I don't know her or anything but as a woman and a mother I truly hope that she stays safe and out of danger with him you never know what he will do next even if he gets out of jail.  God bless her and her kids and may GOD keep watch over her and her kids.  Everyone that reads these messages needs to say a prayer for her and her kids every day for them to stay safe and out of his reach.
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:50 pm PDT

Jeffery The Sick One

I certainly hope Dr. Phil you will put Jennifer and her children in a safe house ASAP - he is so deranged he will be at their home waiting for her if you don't get her in a safe house! Thank you
 
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May 11, 2007, 5:51 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

Quote From: sabrinaspell12

Not that what he is doing is right. it's not, but she shouldn't of cheated on him in the first place. when she made the decision to sleep with someone else she should of left than. sounds like the foolishness didn't start til she had the affairs. she also needs to get real. it takes two to make it or break it.
Who are you to tell this woman that all of this is her fault?? You are saying if she wouldn't have (supposedly) cheated then this wouldn't happen, but since she did, then it's her fault??? Your thinking is screwed up. None of what's happening to Jennifer is that poor woman's fault. For you to come down on her at all is beyond the realm of my understanding. Instead of blaming her, you should pray for her. How dare you say that. And as for "it takes two to make it or break it", if I were her, I would go away very quickly and BREAK it as much as I can!! she's tried for 11 years to make it. If breaking it is what it takes for her to be happy and to get her life back, then go for it!!! I just don't know where you come off coming down on her.
 
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