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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 11, 2007, 11:11 pm PDT

You can do it!

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You're so right!    I noticed that the husband wouldn't/couldn't look directly at Dr. Phil.    He really is a little mentally over the top.

 

Good luck Jennifer and kids!    Yes, you can do it....with or without him.  

Jennifer, be strong! You did the right thing by choosing divorce. Getting out of an abusive relationship is no easy cake to cut, and yes, can take up to as long as it took you to be able to get out of it. The journey is only begun, but hang on tight for you and for your children sakes. Best of luck in your future endeavors, you can do it!
 
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May 11, 2007, 11:16 pm PDT

Sure...

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 your choice;  but this woman's choice and reason is quite different, don't you think?

Maybe, maybe not.

 

It's not totally unreasonable to want some kind of life if the man you're married to has made you a prisoner in your own house. Maybe the computer is the only way she can have a connection with anyone.

 

And what's up with all this talk about being hugged up on another man?

 

I can only inmagine that after years of being trapped and confined by jeffery, she's probably  feeling free for the first time in forever and she's going out and meeting people. Good for her! Her lonliness is something only those in her situation could imagine.

 

 

 

 

 
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May 11, 2007, 11:23 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Ya know, I do feel bad for this woman.  I feel REALLY bad for their kids.  Here is my "but":  But, is it possible that there is a part of her that may be thriving on this attention from her husband?  She appears to be very insecure and this may, in her mind, boost that sense of low self-esteem that she has. 

 

In addition, I believe she needs to take some responsibility for contributing to her husbands psycho behavior.  I mean, if she is messing around on him behind his back - be it physically or emotionally - that's like adding fuel to a blazing fire!  Either admit to your behavior and work through it or stop doing it!  This messin' with this guys already messed up mind isn't helping matters!  Suspicions about being cheated on by your partner can drive a person nuts!  And this guy already IS nuts!

 

Come on, lady.  He's almost gone.  Just quit with the stuff that's gonna push him even further over the brink. 

 

By the way, is this woman hoping to get some kind of career in the soap opera industry?  I mean, it's kinda hard to watch this woman when she's sooooo dramatic over EVERYTHING!  She cries at the drop of a hat!  What's up with making a total scene in front of your kids when your locked in your basement?  Could you not have waited in your basement quietly, telling your kids everything was alright so as not to scare the **** out of them?  Then, when they are in bed and you are free, kick the **** out of your husband! 

 

Like Dr. Phil says, there are two sides to a pancake.  I'm just trying to look at the other side since it doesn't seem like that's being done. 

She's been telling him for years she wants out and he won't let her go. Anyone ever consider she was just doing what she thought would make him leave! Sure, it's not smart, but lets remember she was nineteen when she met him and he probably hadn't made it easy for her to mature emotionally past that point.

 

Think about it. Everything everyone is wondering why she would do, is stuff a nineteen year old girl would do to a boyfriend to piss him off. She may not even know she's doing it, she just knows she has to do something to keep this man from destroying who she is completely.

 

I'm sure she's made mistakes, we're all human.

 

But Jeffery is beyond that, and I don't think anyone can drive a man  to do the things he's done unless he's already emotionally unbalanced.

 

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May 11, 2007, 11:33 pm PDT

You are right

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I've watched all the episodes about this, and there's no excuse or reason to put up with that, but I hope Dr Phil advises Jennifer to PLEASE not date, or get involved with ANY man for at LEAST 1 year. Maybe no time table should be on this, but she needs to figure out who she is without a man, she's not ready to be with anyone now. Either she'll pick someone else who will be abusive because her self esteem isn't right yet, or she may find a good man who will be driven away because he has to hear about Jeffrey or deal with Jeffery. When I saw she got a message from a man while Jeffery was in treatment, I knew it wasn't right, then the pics while at her moms, of her and a man she met 5 minutes before the picture was taken, then she was really comfortable to lay her head on a mans shoulder she just met, arms around a man she just met. I'm really afraid for Jennifer, her kids, that they DESERVE some stability, her kids deserve her focus, not a new man. Dr Phil needs to get her in therapy and tell her she has to stay away from men until her life has calmed down, until she values herself for at  least 6,8 months, grieve for this loss, and stand on her  own, give all her time to herself and kids. I have a bad feeling she won't, and I know she deserves a life after this, but not now, no going out except maybe a movie with the girls, lunch, no nightclubs, no my space chatting, I hope Dr Phil will admittedly tell her, or she reads this.
I agree with you that Jennifer needs to be very careful.  She seems to want to latch on to any man she meets.  She needs to stay away from men, figure out her own life and get therapy.  Isn't she a little too old for My Space?  Take care of yourself and your kids Jennifer.  I pray Jeffery is out of your life for good.  That is one scary creature.
 
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May 11, 2007, 11:38 pm PDT

In Jeffrey's World...

As I watched both installments of what I call "In Jeffrey's World" it was abundantly clear this really had nothing to do with Jennifer, although she was deeply victimized in all of this. It had everything to do with Jeffrey's delusions and his "15 minutes of fame" on television. Remember, he was the one that initially contacted the Dr. Phil Show. As things began to go awry, and Jeffrey's control was quickly diminishing, he found it increasingly harder to play along. He had no intention of completing rehab; he was simply going through the motions and stringing everyone along for as long as he could. It amazed me as he was walking on stage how he noticed no one applauded. Then as he was getting into the limo, he actually snapped his fingers and told someone to get his luggage! He was in love with the attention he was getting. And it didn't matter to him one bit how stupid or foolish it made him look. In his mind this was happening to him - he was the victim. And as long as he could maintain that delusion in his mind, it's everyone else's fault; he's not responsible for any of it. I think the thing that bothers me most is how long he was able to get away with his behavior, especially since there were trained specialists capable of giving this guy a 51/50, and at least locking him up for 72 hour observation. I'm glad that Jennifer can finally have the life she wants and deserves. I pray that one day she will be able to have someone in her life that thinks about her more than himself, but thinks about them more than her.

 
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May 11, 2007, 11:38 pm PDT

walked into this marriage sick?

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 Why are you making this about her?  And, how can you possibly judge her?  You say that you think that her children should be taken away from her?  Come on, get a grip!   You have no idea what she's been through.  You may be assured that this woman was treated like this BEFORE her affair.  Her husband is seriously ill, and there is nothing that she could or couldn't have done to prevent him from being this way; he walked into this marriage sick.  Why are you trying to justify his sick behavior by blaming her?  You sound like HIM!  This woman was belittled and totally controlled by this man, emotionally beated down.....ABUSED!  He made her feel like she was nothing.  As humans, we all need to feel loved and accepted and perhaps that's what Jen was looking for.  Until you can  walk in someone else's shoes, you cannot  dictate to them what path is best for them to walk on.
 
I don't mean to be insensitive and I understand that she married at 19 (although I don't get why one would do that in our generation and only after two months of dating). But if you are so sure he walked into this marriage sick, then why did she get married with a sick man? That's water under the bridge now, but she'll move on with her life at one point... These are things she needs to get a good, deep answer to before she gets involved with anyone again.
 
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May 11, 2007, 11:42 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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her myspace page was set to private, but he is a hacker, remember?
even if you are a hacker you cant get into a myspace page if it is set to private....only teens and 20s have a myspace page...if you have a page in your thirties then you are only after one thing...to meet guys
 
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May 12, 2007, 12:18 am PDT

on the run...

Jennifer, I recommend you don't put pictures on the internet of you and other men. You know they said he's dangerous.

 

Husband, if you are reading on this, why don't you just stay there in treatment until you get completely over this. Face it, you had a good chance here and you blew it by calling her, checking her computer and not completely submitting to your treatment - not doing what you were supposed to.

 
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May 12, 2007, 12:41 am PDT

Why do I get the feeling this guy was sorta set up?

I know Jeffery is very sick and wrong in what he does but I do not agree with the therapy he got.

 

He is taken away from his wife and we all know he is addicted to her.  He can call her but cannot see her.  WHY let him call her?  Then they bring him to the show where she is and he thinks they are going to be able to see each other and talk.  But NO they cannot even see each other.  So he goes ballistic.  It doesn't take a counselor to know he would do that.  That is like letting a drug addict know the drug is in the next room but he can't even look at it.  Why have it in the next room?  Either have his wife in counseling with him or get her away from him completely but kinda there but not really there is stupid therapy.

 

Then he goes haywire which we could all predict and they show him running all around town.  The staff protects her until she gets on the plane back home but she arrives in the middle of the night and no one from the staff or the police is with her.  Jeffery is home before she is but she still goes into the house and tells him she is divorcing him, the very thing the counselors say might set him off to do something harmful to her.  Did he?  NOOO, she packs and takes the kids out of the house.  He lets her leave.  HUH?  What harm did he do to her?

 

I would be saying lock this guy up and throw away the key but what does Jen do while he is in therapy?  She posts a picture of her and a man that she says she just met five minutes ago on her MY SPACE page.  WHAT?  She is almost hugging the guy in the picture and Jeffery sees it.  Now we know he hacks into her MY SPACE page so is this the brightest thing to do?  Jeffery says she is having an affair with the man.  Crazy thinking, HUH?  But he isn't that stable right now so why in heaven's name provoke him with a picture?  Why in Heaven's name even have a MY SPACE page when you know your husband is sick right now and that page sets him off?  No one NEEDS a MY SPACE page.  Why have one when your husband is in therapy for jealousy?

 

To me this isn't supporting him to get better, this is provoking him to act out.  BUT maybe that is the idea.  If he acts REALLY crazy the judge has no recourse but to order him to stay away from her and the kids.  I don't know what the staff of this show is tying to do or what agenda they have but this just seems wrong to me.  I hope this man and his family can get the help they so desperately need.  I think this time Dr. Phil blew it big time.

 

The man is sick and needs help.  Now he is locked up so how did that help him or his family?  I am beginning to wonder about this show. 

 
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May 12, 2007, 12:44 am PDT

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 This woman is in a gut-wrenching situation.  I feel so bad for her and for her mother.   I can't imagine what it would be like to have my daughter  in the middle of something like this.  Bless Dr. Phil for helping her.  I don't know if I missed something in todays show or not.  Maybe someone can fill me in.  I remember Jennifer saying that her friend said she would keep the children safe until she got there.   Then it shows that they were in the house with him when she got home??  Another thing, how in the world was he able to get a plane ticket without ID??  I agree with one person's post that I would not want to live in that house.  Too many horrible memories.   I really worry about her because like she said, a piece of paper won't stop him from hurting her or the children.   I was disturbed by some of the posts in a sense blaming her (the victim!) for antagonizing him!  There might have been some decisions that she has made that may not have been in her best interest (the Myspace pictures), but give her a break!  If I were under that kind of stress, I would have probably gone crackers and been carted off to the luny bin.

 
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