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Topic : 05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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Created on : Friday, May 04, 2007, 12:13:43 pm
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The incredible drama continues involving Jeffrey, an obsessive husband who won’t let go of his wife, Jennifer. After the last show, Jeffrey is on his way back to the treatment facility, when his anger gets the best of him, and he jumps out of the car and goes on the run. He finally calls his therapist from a taxi cab, but soon after is on the loose again. After four hours and a frenzy of phone calls with Dr. Phil show producers, see what Jeffrey demands. With the stress and pressure getting the best of her, Jennifer sits down with Dr. Phil to discuss their next step. In a hurried panic, Jennifer heads home and is shocked by what she finds when she walks in the front door. She takes her kids and flees to her mother’s house. Even though she’s in a safe place, why does she say she still lives in fear? Then, Jennifer’s attorney files papers and meets Jeffrey in front of a judge. Will Jeffrey be able to comply with the judge's orders? And, Jeffrey resumes talk with the Dr. Phil staff. What is he asking for? Jeffrey’s behavior continues to shock and mystify Jennifer and leaves her with only one choice. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 12, 2007, 8:19 pm PDT

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Dr. Phil there are a lot men out in the world like Jeffery.  What is so ironic, I live with one. He  watched the show and wasn't  able to see he has the same characterics of Jeffery.  Before the show aired, I informed my live in lover of this same behavior. He very jealous and controling.  He constant;ly acussed me of cheating and saying that ex-boyfriend is calling me.  When we go out to a restaturant and he only want my eyes on him when I'm not eating my food. But, he looks and flirts with every woman he sees. Lord forbid if a guy speak to me , he will swear I'm having sex with the guy. It doesn't matter if the guy has a woman with him.  He accused me of  every man that may look or speak to me. He doesn' think my uncles or male cousins should come around unless he is present. On the other hand he has been present and accuse me of some of my male relatives. When he is upset he is calling me names such as: Bit__,,whore and etc.. 

What stop him from the name calling so far, what name he called me I would reply' "your mama and your sisters.  This is out of character for me, that said a silent pray and ask God to forgive me. An older woman told me to reply to him that and he would stop the name calling. Women is constantly calling him and he leave home and says he going over his mother or I be right back. Each time this occur one particular woman call him once he return. He exclaim she is fat and crazy. Yet, he doesn't want any male calling or visiting me unless they are my brothers.  If I go to the store accussed me of dating the employees.  There is a lot of Jeffery out there,.

 
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May 12, 2007, 8:45 pm PDT

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I watched the whole series on this Jeff and Jen thing.

Jeff had some issues, but mainly he was trying to do whatever needed to keep things tiogether.( his methods were wrong but reasons were right)

He knew from day 1 that she was a cheater and if he dropped his gaurd she'd be gone.

 

He loved his kids and his wife and he was willing to do whatever it took to keep them together.

Once trust is gone it's over. He tried to use information to substitue trust. It won't work.

Trust is everything!

 

Why was he chased  back home. He had shown no signs of aggression and gave no reason to feel he was dangerous. He never once threatened his wife or kids. He should have been given money to go back home and allowed to live his life. He had done nothing illegal and just wanted to go home after being lied to by the show and the people at the treatment center.

I believe that 100%

 

Why was she chosen to be able to take the kids and or keep the house over him. Because he was male.

He had every right to be back at his home with his family. She had no more rights to those kids than he did.

It makes me sick to see that instead of helping this family heal, they were ripped apart by (uncaring)doctors and lawyers.

He knew if he let go they would rip his family apart and he was proved right.

I think she is a selfish woman.

She got what she wanted all along! to be rid of her husband and to have evidence against him for the divorce.

She never had any intention of working through anything!

 

My heart goes out to this Man. He felt trapped. he knew what was coming and  he was kept away while his wife was taken to parties and introduced to new men.(who does that)

Then to add insult to injury, it was posted for all the world to see. Why would any wife who ever cared about her husband allow herself to be cuddling up to another man while all this was going on.

Its rediculous.

Her actions are not that of a wife who loved her husband(ever) and was in a bad situation.

I think shes a bad person and she needs to grow up!

I also feel he has just as much right to his house and kids as she does.

Cage anyone as he was and they will act the way he did.

I feel bad for him and I am disapointed in Dr Phil for allowing this to happen to someone who came to him for help.

 

Are you actually for real ?
 
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May 12, 2007, 9:06 pm PDT

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Not that what he is doing is right. it's not, but she shouldn't of cheated on him in the first place. when she made the decision to sleep with someone else she should of left than. sounds like the foolishness didn't start til she had the affairs. she also needs to get real. it takes two to make it or break it.

Ok I  didn't see the entire episodes.  But I don't think she cheated. It seems that he always accused her.  Maybe  she did act inappropriately in some ways.

But she was  completely controlled by her husband. That can make a person reach out in any way for an outside connection to the world. Any contact was circumspect in his eyes.  Honestly,that guy is scary!

 
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May 12, 2007, 9:09 pm PDT

but she doesn't want to hide.....

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Having watched both episodes I honed in on 'body language' and the lack of this man being able to even look at Dr. Phil when responding but instead closed his eyes to speak.   He certainly seems to tell ALL about his weird behaviour and obsessiveness towards his wife but I can't believe he'll change in so little time.  He is in the true sense of the word a STALKER! Do "stalkers" ever get well?  I realize Dr. Phil gave him a chance for the sake of their children and that is what seems to be necessary because afterall, he is their father but I worry about their safety too.  We read about fathers killing their children .  This show has really sent a chill up my spine.    I was completely exhausted after watching both episodes and hoping that Jennifer takes the kids and GOES!    Please help her and their kids!  She's got to get out and fast.  But where can she hide?  It seems like such an endless journey with this nut lurking around every corner. 

 

I understand what you mean about the chill up your spine......However, your question "where can she hide" does not make sense.  She does not want to hide.  MySpace is an option.....an option she chooses to participate in.  The woman does not want to hide from her crazy husband...she is taunting him.

 
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May 12, 2007, 9:14 pm PDT

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 Pul-eese. I was physically and emotionally abused by my father all through my teens (only I was lucky enough to marry a great guy at 19 because I didn't want to be with someone like my father) and it is not license to go out and make bad decisions. Your comments are basically excusing Jennifer for snuggling up to strange men and advertising herself on MySpace because she's married to a psycho abusive man. She wasn't raped at 19. She got pregnant at 19 as a willing party in sleeping with Jeffrey. She made plenty of her OWN decisions (to sleep with and get pregnant at 19 and get married) and she continues to make bad decisions.

If you're married and you want to get out, that's fine. Get out. But until that divorce is final, dating and adultery is NOT an option. And if you're in hiding from a deranged psycho-path, socializing and snuggling up to strange men you barely met isn't an option either. And the "I'm being abused" excuse doesn't fly.  Pul-eese.
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May 12, 2007, 9:52 pm PDT

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After reading this I felt I had to reply. Your first sentence made me laugh. If this was a man cheating on his wife and she resorted to snooping thru his email or checking on his cell phone calls you would probably say it was because he proved he could not be trusted. If he was online asking girls for naked butt pictures and she found out thru whatever means you would give her a big ATTA GIRL. She was supposed to be hiding out at her mothers house for 5 days but she found the time to party at a bar to pick up a guy and pose for very indescreet photos. How very stupid this woman is. While I think the husband is goofy, I don't think much of her either.

As to your statement that anyone who attemps to assign any blame to poor jennifer resides on the same planet as Jeffery, I want to remind you that this is a discussion board. The key word here is discussion. We all see things differently. 

 I think they BOTH have serious mental issues that need to be addressed. Of course you are welcome to think what you want, as are we all.

I'm glad you have a sense of humor.  So do I.  Jeffery was doing a little more than snooping through her email and checking her cell phone messages.  Don't you get it, he's not normal. Nothing that has been revealed on the show that Jeffery has done comes even close to the actions of a sane rational human being.  Did you even watch the show?   We do agree on one thing. she was stupid for having gotten involved with the psychopath in the beginning and then to stay in the situation...... well the situation speaks for itself.  When you lay down with a pig, you get up smelling like....___________(I'll let you fill in the blank).

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May 12, 2007, 9:58 pm PDT

What are you doing?

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Dr. Phil there are a lot men out in the world like Jeffery.  What is so ironic, I live with one. He  watched the show and wasn't  able to see he has the same characterics of Jeffery.  Before the show aired, I informed my live in lover of this same behavior. He very jealous and controling.  He constant;ly acussed me of cheating and saying that ex-boyfriend is calling me.  When we go out to a restaturant and he only want my eyes on him when I'm not eating my food. But, he looks and flirts with every woman he sees. Lord forbid if a guy speak to me , he will swear I'm having sex with the guy. It doesn't matter if the guy has a woman with him.  He accused me of  every man that may look or speak to me. He doesn' think my uncles or male cousins should come around unless he is present. On the other hand he has been present and accuse me of some of my male relatives. When he is upset he is calling me names such as: Bit__,,whore and etc.. 

What stop him from the name calling so far, what name he called me I would reply' "your mama and your sisters.  This is out of character for me, that said a silent pray and ask God to forgive me. An older woman told me to reply to him that and he would stop the name calling. Women is constantly calling him and he leave home and says he going over his mother or I be right back. Each time this occur one particular woman call him once he return. He exclaim she is fat and crazy. Yet, he doesn't want any male calling or visiting me unless they are my brothers.  If I go to the store accussed me of dating the employees.  There is a lot of Jeffery out there,.

Do you like that type of treatment?
 
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May 12, 2007, 10:05 pm PDT

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Excellent response.
Oh, if only all of us had your common sense...wouldn't the world be a better and safer place.  If we could only be like you.......
 
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May 12, 2007, 10:22 pm PDT

Sounds like....

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I have been told by others that I'm married to a controlling husband.  However, I never took it seriously until I saw this show.  My husband is not anywhere near the point of Jeffrey, thank God.  He is not jealous and doesn't spy on me.  However, he does have total economic control, and makes all important decisions for the both of us.  I have very few relationships w/ friends anymore and little contact with my own family.  He hates my family, dislikes my friends, and outside interests.  I don't work and keep a clean house, but it's never good enough.  Anytime I embark on a new project within the house or discuss taking up something out of the house, he discourages me criticizes.  If I cook, he complains about the meal costing too much or making too much of a mess in the kitchen, or complains about the actual meal himself.  If I don't cook, he complains.  When I clean, it's not good enough.  I have hopes and dreams, most of which he's convinced me are not realistic.  He is not a bad man, but I'm finding it difficult to discuss my hopes and dreams with him b/c they're always squashed.  It's as if I have very little say in my entire life.  I want to stay married, and thought maybe someone here can give some sound advice.  I don't know what to do.

 

I hope and pray that Jennifer is able to find happiness and have a normal life and not have to look over her shoulder anymore. 

It sounds like you've lost yourself. 
 
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May 12, 2007, 10:35 pm PDT

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Must say I am intrigued with all the women that are so willing to find every fault with Jen.

 

I mean really?  This man did the slicing and dicing on his own scrotum..........THINK about it???

 

 

 

 

 

 
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