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Topic : 08/22 The Dr. Phil House: "Make My Kid a Star"

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Created on : Friday, May 11, 2007, 02:25:58 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/14/07) Do you think your child is destined to be a star? Are you spending your life savings trying to get him or her in the spotlight? Has your life become a non-stop roller coaster of auditions, rejections, lessons, rehearsals, costumes, headshots and agents? The business is cutthroat and competitive, yet thousands of families set out for Hollywood every year, believing their child is the next Dakota Fanning. Dr. Phil helps some aspiring child stars get noticed and at the same time takes a behind-the-scenes look at stage moms in the throes of battle. Seven talented kids get big-time opportunities in The Dr. Phil House, auditioning for some of Hollywood’s most esteemed child talent agents. But the true test is to see if their mothers can handle the heat, the competition, the stress of it all, without becoming stereotypical backstabbing stage moms. How will the kids perform after being coached by their moms? Will the mother/child teams work well together, or flounder under the pressure? Do these seven kids really have what it takes? Big prizes are at stake, such as free rent during pilot season, a Hollywood agent and a $25,000 scholarship. Follow the sweet success and the crushing heartbreak in Dr. Phil’s three-part talent competition, and talk about the show here.

 

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May 13, 2007, 8:07 pm CDT

Make my kid a star

I have seen the Dr. Phil trailers for this show and agree that they do not present the mothers in a very positive light. If I did not personally know one of the aspiring actresses involved in this production and her mother personally, I may have a very similar notion about the show to many of those who have commented recently. There is no doubt that parents exist who are incapable of making decisions which are best for their children, regardless of the arena or circumstance. Like everyone else, I have not seen the show and, therefore, cannot comment for the most part as to whether or not it appears that these mothers are acting in the best interests of their children.

However,  I can comment on what I know. I do know that Gracie is an extremely talented, ambitious, driven, and intelligent human being who makes those around her light up in her presence. I am hopeful that these attributes will be apparent to the millions of viewers watching Dr. Phil over the next couple of days. If anyone can succeed and maintain her own distinct values in the highly competitive, pressure-inducing environment of Hollywood stardom, it is she.

Gracie's mom is also a very loving, supportive, and balanced champion of her daughter who wants to enable Gracie to achieve her dreams, whatever they may be. I am equally as hopeful that her attributes will be revealed on this show.

As for myself, I will be watching with an open mind, I will be excited to see little Gracie giving it her all, and I will be cheering her on every second of the way!

 
May 13, 2007, 8:19 pm CDT

05/14 The Dr. Phil House: "Make My Kid a Star"

Quote From: ceildh1

Okay, I'll take that challenge and watch, and repost tommorrow, we'll see if the trailors were "taken out of Context" as they often seem to be when the guests get on the board.

i only need to see the trailer to see what these parents are like...and "loving" isnt an adjective i would use.

 
May 13, 2007, 8:27 pm CDT

05/14 The Dr. Phil House: "Make My Kid a Star"

Quote From: graciesdad

Goodness gracious!  Wow... I'm really sort of taken back by these comments and the mean-spiritedness of some the commenters.  As someone who has been involved from the sidelines of the 'Make My Kid a Star' special, I can tell everyone that although you're going to see some things that most anyone would see as bad behavior -- you're also going to see some very geniunely talented kids and some very authentically loving and supportive mothers.

 

I don't want to set myself up as an apologist for anything Dr. Phil's cameras have captured because I'm sure there will be some behavior and parenting that won't be defensable.  I, nor anyone else, including the moms and kids that participated, have seen the show.  So, we'll all be watching this special unfold together.  What I can suggest to everyone is that the trailers are likely a little more negative in tone than the actual shows will be.  I certainly hope so, at least!

 

As for my daughter Gracie's participation, I can also tell you that she really had a very nice experience at the Dr. Phil house.  Her mother, Kiki, on the other hand, was a little more stressed-out about the whole thing.  Still, Kiki told me as recently as an hour ago after reading these messages boards that she's very surprised about how negative the tone is about the show and that overall she fells very good her own participation and believes that she and I along with Grace's Bonus Dad (Kiki's husband, Steve) made the right decision to allow Grace to participate and compete for some very nice prizes and maybe even that 'Big Break' that anyone needs who has a dream of acting on television or in movies.

I believe if you'll just watch the show, you'll see about what you'd see if the camera was on most parents 24/7 in any competitive venue -- lots of loving support along with some behavior we might not accept as exactly healthy for the kids or the parent.  I was a decent athlete growing up and I can tell you that although my parents were never anything but positively supportive that there were plenty of Little League fathers and Soccer moms who behaved very badly when it came to their little Johnny or little Janice performing up to their standards on the field of play.

 

To me, this is what Dr. Phil is trying to show all us parents through these shows -- that you have to develop some objectivity about your child and learn to be supportive without either living vicariously through them and without making a mess of your child's emotional life and psychological health.  Now, that's a lesson any of us can benefit from as loving parents who have to wake up each day and figure this parenting thing out in real time without the benefit of Dr. Phil's cameras, his challenges to our behavior when we are a bit irrational or his insights about how we might raise healthy and happy kids.

 

As for my  Gracie, I hope the show will let you see at least one kid whose truly happy to be doing exactly what she's doing and a mom who simply is willing to do what she can, within reason, to support her children's most ardent dreams!

 

I'm excited to find out just exactly how this whole thing looks after the 3rd show!  My thoughts and prayers are also with the other kids and their families as we each go through this somewhat intimidating experience together.

 

Oh, and I promise you, the show's NOT 'rigged'! :-)

 

All The Best!

 

Kurt

Gracie's Dad

thats funny u say u are taken back by the meaness of the comments because i was taken back by the meaness of the mothers.  What loving mother treats their children like that?  Pushing all these unrealistic expectations on their kids, all that pressure.  Also the show isnt about young talented kids, so when u tell us to watch the talent, thats not what the show is about..the show is MAKE my kid a star.  its about the parents pusing their kids...i just hope they enjoy their TV time because its probably the last time most if not all will be on TV.
 
May 13, 2007, 8:35 pm CDT

make my kid a star

 

hello wake up smell the roses. these moms are not doing this for their child. they are doing this for there own gratafacation. some warped thing they have in thier minds that they dominate their child. if the child has talent and enjoys doing the talent then go for it. BUT DO NOT  force them into it. i know that dr. phil will set them straight

 
May 13, 2007, 8:50 pm CDT

"MAKE" my (me) kid a Star...

I am a mom also, and I as well want only the very best for my kid(s).  I totally understand what it's like to be a 'stage' Mom; my daughter Samantha has been in Cheer Leading since she was in 4th grade, elementary school; and she'll be a junior in high school in the upcoming school year 07-08.  My daughter LOVES to being Cheer Leader, and she loves all the extras that come with it.  She is (and always has been) completely responsible for keeping her grades up so she can compete at ALL the competitions.  My daughter Samantha Is A Star and she has earned every bit of it.  My job as Cheer Mom is to Support the Team by doing a variety of jobs that keep us parents too busy with fund raising, donations, Booster Team Support group, carpooling, as well as volunteering to help cut costs.

      In a nut shell (personally speaking), the only way 'my' kid can become a 'Star' is if he/she earn it for him/herself.  With that being the case, parents wont have to 'force' any performance... why??? (we as parents have the responsibility of 'supporting' the team).  The only reason our daughter Samantha participates Cheer Leading at all is because she wants too.  We as parents will always have the right and responsibility to support (Help) the team with the Coach' knowledge/permission. 

     Relax and enjoy your child while he/she is 1.  We should allow our kids to be kids while they can, and follow their 'Dream' when they have 1.  I'm thinking that maybe if we make our kids do what we think our 'dream' for may be all the time, they may never get the chance to discover their own dreams.  Nothing would be worse for our kids to grow up following someone-else's dream.

 
May 13, 2007, 8:53 pm CDT

"MAKE" my (me) kid a Star...

I am a mom also, and I as well want only the very best for my kid(s).  I totally understand what it's like to be a 'stage' Mom; my daughter Samantha has been in Cheer Leading since she was in 4th grade, elementary school; and she'll be a junior in high school in the upcoming school year 07-08.  My daughter LOVES to being Cheer Leader, and she loves all the extras that come with it.  She is (and always has been) completely responsible for keeping her grades up so she can compete at ALL the competitions.  My daughter Samantha Is A Star and she has earned every bit of it.  My job as Cheer Mom is to Support the Team by doing a variety of jobs that keep us parents too busy with fund raising, donations, Booster Team Support group, carpooling, as well as volunteering to help cut costs.

      In a nut shell (personally speaking), the only way 'my' kid can become a 'Star' is if he/she earn it for him/herself.  With that being the case, parents wont have to 'force' any performance... why??? (we as parents have the responsibility of 'supporting' the team).  The only reason our daughter Samantha participates Cheer Leading at all is because she wants too.  We as parents will always have the right and responsibility to support (Help) the team with the Coach' knowledge/permission. 

     Relax and enjoy your child while he/she is 1.  We should allow our kids to be kids while they can, and follow their 'Dream' when they have 1.  I'm thinking that maybe if we make our kids do what we think our 'dream' for may be all the time, they may never get the chance to discover their own dreams.  Nothing would be worse for our kids to grow up following someone-else's dream.

 
May 14, 2007, 1:03 am CDT

To push or not to push

I think one does have to take a look at the parent to see the behaviour of the child.  I used to take my kids to do adverts and they were in a couple.  One particular time when my daughter was 4, we went to do an advert.  She decided she didn't want to do it although she was dressed up in new dress, new frilly socks, patent black shoes and her hair tied in a pretty bow.  One of the t.v. presenters were supposed to pick her up and talk into the camera.  She took an instant disliking to him and cried every time she saw him.  I don't know why but kids are perceptive. 

I tried convincing her, he tried convincing her and so did the camera crew, even as far as giving her candies and goodies which are great bribery treats for kids.  She did not take the bait.

 

Result:  I took a step back from myself and saw this mother trying to push onto a 4 year what she knew she didn't want.  I felt awful about it and decided to change her back into her comfy sweats.  She then became a different child and started socialising with everyone and laughing.  The pressure was off her.  Only for the last cut, the director approached me and said that they would like her involved in the last cut where everyone was going to feature at one time and would I please get involved as well.  I'm so camera shy and not good in front of a bunch of people let alone t.v. cameras but a wave of confidence came over me and although I was the only one not made up and changed, I got involved and we repeated about 20 cuts into the late hours of the night.  My daughter cooperated beautifully once she saw I was in it with her and the atmosphere became that of a family.  The man she didn't like, she continued not to like but there were enough people to take her mind off him.

 

Best result:  When we got paid, she got the money she earned and I let her loose in a toy-shop!

She went bounding into the shop and shopped till she dropped!  She bought her brother a teddy-bear and the rest she treated herself.  She learned at a very early age that she worked, earned and spent.  Too young to learn to save but now that she's almost 18, she'll have to get that one down-packed.

 

The point of the whole story is that maybe if some of these mothers saw themselves in a different light, that they would change their attitude.  If the child is fine with it I guess it could be fun but when there's pressure and competition involved, it can be very traumatic I believe.

 
May 14, 2007, 2:41 am CDT

Ok....

I get to watch the shows earlier than most here in Germany.  I think that no matter how one might spin what they are like as a parent off the show,  you cant cover up what they really did on the cameras and Im sure it happens a whole lot more than the parents let on.  Anyone whos on these shows ALWAYS says that it was cut diffrently to make them look horrible.  You can cut out some stuff that people do and maybe that just human nature.  People make mistakes and so on but my point is,  if people KNOW that shows are like this....thats the nature of the beast signing up for it! 

 

Parents, if you really think that the show turned a horrible light on you as parents,  WELCOME TO FAME.  You really think its going to get any better when your kids become celebrities? 

 

Also parents, have you ever really heard a celebrity say that all the money is worth what they go through?  HAVE YOU?  And yet you push your kids for a life that ends up being nothing but money and friends who arent really friends.  Its always about the money in the end.

 
May 14, 2007, 4:26 am CDT

05/14 The Dr. Phil House: "Make My Kid a Star"

Quote From: memphisone

Just let me say. The way Dr. Phil and these mom's go about the child actor business is not reality.  My daughter is a working child actor. She is a regular kid. Does regular things. Church, Sports, school, local theatre as well as Oscar movies.

 

Dr. Phil has on the EXTREME. This is what sells.

 

It saddens the child acting community he perpetuates this myth about how this world really is, or isn't. He is in his own reality. NOT OURS. Why not have real actors and their parents on? First most won't, second no one would care how boring it really can be.

 

 Very few parents coach their acting kids. Heck I can't coach mine to put her dishes in the dishwasher.  

Acting is not a competition against other kids. It's against the role. If you are African American and they want Asian then it's not your role.  Our kids aren't better than anyone else. Yes talented but NOT Better! Not ever.

 

 You do not have to spend every dollar, every minute, thinking about this business. Life goes on, with or without acting.  Go into an audition looking hungry and you have already lost.  

Thanks.

 

I agree that the most child actors are regular kids.  However, the acting world is a world of its own and not  life for the average kid.  Nothing wrong with that,  just know it is not the average life style.  The competition is against the role, OK..  I understand some kids act  for maybe one role, grow up and enter other careers.  Some child actors grow up and don't know how to be an adult.

 

The moms on the show are extreme but that is why they are on the show in the first place.  I would hope that other parents would learn from the show so they would make better decisions about what is best for them. 

 
May 14, 2007, 5:40 am CDT

back off now mom and dad

What give these mothers and fathers the right to infringe upon the natural developement of these children. Making them victims of parental control issues is just wrong. Children do not need to be imposed upon by intentions from parents, by their own design, who wish to wreep from their children demise and maybe successes. It is improper to allow children to pursue down avenues not of their own choices. Giving them opportunities, at the right age of developement, to grow is not only fighting, but a need for their developement.

 

Children act out of impulse, and become submissive to these parental demand and selfish wishes.

 

Please give children the right to be chilldren and a natural chance at a life given to them ay birth.

 

from one home chef.....

 
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