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(Original Air Date: 05/16/07) What would you do if your spouse belittled you and threatened your life? For women who have ever endured verbal, physical or emotional abuse in a relationship, Dr. Phil helps break the silence. Amy says her husband, Lee, is volatile and dangerous. She says he has choked and kicked her, and even held a knife to her throat! Lee’s mother, Sandy, says Amy and Lee argue constantly, but they’ve never been physical. How does she react when Dr. Phil plays a tape of Lee confessing his abusive ways? Then, Amy’s parents, Cynthia and Stan, fear for their daughter’s life and don’t think she’s providing a safe environment for her kids. Amy says she loves her husband and wants her folks to butt out. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Lee joins the show via satellite because he’s on probation for a domestic violence charge, and cannot leave the state. He admits to having anger issues but says he’s working to control them. Can Lee change his violent ways? Is it possible to rebound from being with an abuser? Tell us what you think.

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May 14, 2007, 7:09 am PDT

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This topic makes me ill and my  skin crawl whenever I think of it. I saw my mother get beaten down everyday when i was a child. My sister was with one abusive boyfriend after another and then i married a man that was Emotionally abusive. I call him an emotional vampire. He "tried to" take every bit of self-esteem I had away from me. He charmed me by using "The Lord" as his scapegoat to get what he wanted from me. Thinking he was a Spiritual man and loving, i fell into it but failed to see the small signs of mistrust and abuse early on, being blinded by his charm and "loving" ways. Ladies, take your time! When you have Red Flags get out quick! I got out but let him snow me 2x. The last time, I was 720 miles away from my family in the mountains and I was scared to death of him. He yelled at me,called me names, followed me into Every room in the house, even to the toilet ! I could Not come home from work, (while he was lounging on the couch all day) and get a moments peace! He was in my face accusing me of screwing around. i paid all the bills, cooked, cleaned and pleased him sexually but it was Never enough !
I got out and in time. I could have been a secret of the mountains one day. i had to be sneaky and file for divorce and then I gave it to him good, left the state and came home where my sisters and son are. 2 years ago, it was tough but I'm moving on and going Strong ! I've been alone but I Know what I want now and am assertive when it comes to relationships now. I speak my mind and if things seem "Off" I'm out of there burning rubber. If it wasn't for The Dear Lord, I would be depressed and on serious medications right now. If I did it, Anyone can ! Save yourself's ladies. You are worthy of love and joy and CAN have it ! Listen to Robin & Dr. Phil, they got it on the head. And I want a relationship like theirs, follow their example ! Just Do IT !
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May 14, 2007, 7:11 am PDT

How to find out

My husband and I would love to know if our daughter is OK, as well as our granddaughters.  We have not seen or heard from them for over 18 months.  No one will let us know.  Friends, shared pictures, that our daughter, we assume, put them in Christmas cards and wrote long notes.  We have been priviledged to have friends that shared that information with us.  The boy that married our daughter is a very volitial person.  He is an atorney as well.  He hasn't even let us know what is going on.  He wants nothing to do with us. We are waiting to hear from our lawyer about a suit we have filed, only to see our daughter. Our lawyer says she  MUST respond to this suit.  It was filed over a week ago.  In the mean time, how do we know if our daughter and 2 granddaughters are OK?  He, the boy that married our daughter, reminds us so much of the guy that was just on the Dr. Phil house.  I truly hope that Mother and her children are OK and your staff and her lawyer remain vigilant with her.  I am afraid for all of them. Thank you for listening.  Lin Winters
 
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May 14, 2007, 8:05 am PDT

Thank you

Thank you for putting Jeffery on the air last week. My ex- husband (trevor) would pass for his twin.

His attitude, his body language, even his speach and the tone are the same.

I am not in the middle of no where anymore, I had 6 bedrooms on four lots in a rural area. Landscaped the yard myself, my pretty prison.  I would go to the next town put gas in my van and park it with the needle on full. The next morning it would be sitting on half, and mysteriously be broken down 2 days after getting out of the shop?????

He even used my involvement with church and my faith against me. "Your spending too much time with church things."

I am on stress leave from work because of what he did, post traumatic stress is what they tell me it is. "Normal reaction to what went on", when I went to see a mental health person, she told me I am not going crazy. The nightmares, the freaking out for what seems no reason.

I have every reason and then some, he is going to be charged for molesting my daughter, whether he gets nailed this time or not won't matter.  The only way to make him stop was to leave and yeah no one wants to hear you. Our family doctor didn't when I got a infection that well is from "stepping out" of the relationship. I told him at the time that it was trevor, that I caught him at it, the doctor's response was " He wouldn't do that, I don't think he would do that." Sure enough when trevor went in the next time to the doctor he put him on the same medication.

He now has 2 convictions for breaching a protection order, the last one he got $1000 fine, he is on social assistance

I was away on my honeymoon, yes there is life after, married a man who treats me like a human being.

Thank you for your "Get Real Challenge" as well. I lost 65 pounds and a entire person, another thing he used against me, because the more I lost the more my self esteem came up and the thumb screws came down tighter.

Thank you again woman needs to know they have a right to be treated like human beings.

 

 
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May 14, 2007, 8:08 am PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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Although I don't get to see the show often, when I see that there is a show on abuse, I perk up.  It is a sad state indeed.

 

I've been there and have been free from it for almost 10 years now.  I must say that I wish my abuse would have been physical on some level.  Then I would have seen the brutality.  In my case it was verbal and hard to recognize.

 

I understand the pain of physical abuse but verbal abuse can be harder in many ways.  I never saw it as abuse in the beginning.  I thought this person was trying to help me be a better person.  What a crock!!!

 

I spent three years in therapy before I felt strong enough in who I was to be single, alone and totally responsible for my own actions. However, I spent almost 30 years having someone tell me I was basically worthless.  It's a very long story.

 

In thinking about the situations presented on the show, I fully understand the sick but very real possession that one person can have on another.  My mom used to tell me that according to the Bible, you should be submissive and follow your husband's rules.  She didn't have it quite right in that it doesn't always stand true. She never talked about the husband's role to love the wife as God loves his church. 

 

It's hard to break a routine that has been established, the constant ridicule and mean spirited approach making it look like that person is doing this for your own good.  I now have a hard time believing I ever fell for that junk.  But... I did and I understand the process.

 

I guess what I want to get across here is that we are all worth the best of life has to offer.  I want to tell people that they have to love themselves enough to break away from the sickness of the other person.  I admit it isn't easy and sometimes it's so hard that you can fear for your life but there is this saying: "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."  It is true.  I think now that even though I wish I hadn't stayed so long, I am a stronger person.  I am extremely worthwhile all on my own.  I am a good person, a great person. 

 

Please break away from the destructive behavior of someone who is sick and taking you down with them.

I love all the topics Dr Phil has on his shows. When he has a subject on about abusive relationships I make sure I watch.

 

I too am a single mom who ended a 14 year marriage. My ex husband was very verbally abusive towards me and also my children. The hardest part is getting the courage to end such a relationship. The abuser usually has you so convince that it is you.

 

 My exhusband continued his abusive behavior with a second wife then a thrid who knows could be a fourth.  It is sad to say unless the person gets help  and the person continues the treatment he will just find someone else and continue on with the pattern.

 

 I would say please get all the help you can and break the cycle of violence for the childrens. Get out and move your children to a safe place.

Break the cycle. You will be stronger from all of this

 

 

 
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May 14, 2007, 8:15 am PDT

Survivor

It gets sickening to know you allow yourself to endure the humility of abuse. Never give up on YOU, keep striving to better yourself. I have gone thru it for years, and struggling to be rid of it forever. I am on the road to happiness as I live alone, do not date or go out anywhere to meet men.  That is the way I want it.
 
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May 14, 2007, 8:16 am PDT

I agree

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I have been told by pastors to pray and God will change them. Tomorrow the Pastor is praying at the funeral for the wife and children he shot !!!!  She needs to pray for God to give HER strength to get herself and her children out of the situation she is in - he will never change.  I have been told they mellow with the years.  No..... they learn how to sceem and manipulate EVERYONE - even psychologysts over the years to perfect their GAME.  Yes there is life after being with an abuser - however she needs to never have contact with him ever again and the children need to never have contact with him ever again - they need to normalize and get away from the mind games, emotional and psychologycal games he inflicts on them ........ causing doubt and confusion in their minds despite what they know in their gut to be true.  She knows in her gut she needs to take her kids and leave - she is more afraid of him than anything you can say or do to her Doc. Phil.
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May 14, 2007, 8:16 am PDT

13 CHILDREN DIE ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA EVERY DAY

In America there is a common misconception that children runaway from home because they are societal delinquents who want to be free of authority. The media depicts homeless and street kids as "rebels without a cause", as children who have no regard for society, who have no dreams and no aspirations for life but to get high.  

 

We know this portrayal of homeless and street kids to be false. In fact we know that 90% of children who run away have encountered mental, physical, emotional, and/ or sexual abuse. No child wants to live on the streets. No child wants to have to beg, steal, sell drugs, and/ or themselves just to survive.

 

More than half of the children on the streets are still under the age of 15.  Unable to legally work, these kids get involved in criminal activity just to survive.  Based on current estimates, there are more than one and a half million children, teenagers and young adults trying to survive on the U.S. streets today.  Children now make up 27 percent of the fastest growing segment of the U.S. homeless population.

 

For more info:  www.turnpurple.org 

 

The Turn Purple Campaign is the nations' first campaign against child abuse and the resulting problem of youth homelessness. 

 

 

 

DON'T RUNAWAY - TELL SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST

 

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical and sexual abuse have signposts to mark their presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Just as physical and sexual abuse come in degrees of severity, emotional abuse runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

Anyone who had the misfortune of being raised by a parent who is cruel, vicious, vindictive, calculating, manipulative, a liar, cheat, selfish or neglectful may benefit from reading some of my favorite books on the subject: 

 

 

Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward 

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson

 

Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman OR The Angry Heart:  Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders by Joseph Santoro and Ronald Cohen

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm 

  

 

If you tell your problem to someone that you can trust and still feel unhappy, unsafe, or uncomfortable, or if you don't trust anyone that you know, then you should CALL these numbers untill you speak with someone you can trust:

 

National Runaway Switchboard  1-800-RUNAWAY or 1-800-621-4000

Covenant House Nine Line 1-800-999-9999

Child HELP USA 1-800-4ACHILD

Stand Up for Kids 1-800-365-4KID

Volunteers of America  www.voa.org

 

 

If you are unhappy or uncomfortable with something in your life it is up to you to change your situation and tell someone that you can trust. 

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 

 

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May 14, 2007, 8:42 am PDT

Abuse in the Workplace

 
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May 14, 2007, 10:39 am PDT

SELF HATRED - CRUELTY - MANIPULATIONS - RAGE - REVENGE

Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) is a psychological disorder characterized by pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior.  This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. 

 

While less known than schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness), BPD is more common, affecting 2% of adults (1-33), mostly women.  Some of my favorite books that provide a great introduction and insight are:

 

 

The Psychology of Female Violence by Anna Motz

 

Get Me Out of Here:  My Recovery from Borderline Personality Disorder by Rachel Reiland OR The Angry Heart:  Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders by Joseph Santoro and Ronald Cohen

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother:  Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson 

 

Stop Walking on Eggshells:  Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Know Has Borderline Personality Disorder by Paul Mason and Randi Kreger OR Surviving A Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds and Build Trust, Boundaries, and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm

 

 

Some of the story is typical:  early family conflicts, abusive relationships, feelings of insecurity contributing to destructive behaviors such as rage attacks, revenge, manipulations, promiscuity, self abuse and eating disorders.  The extreme behaviors of BPD constitute the high drama in the stories of those who endure its ravages.

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
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May 14, 2007, 10:56 am PDT

Sounds familiar!

Quote From: mollie

Although I don't get to see the show often, when I see that there is a show on abuse, I perk up.  It is a sad state indeed.

 

I've been there and have been free from it for almost 10 years now.  I must say that I wish my abuse would have been physical on some level.  Then I would have seen the brutality.  In my case it was verbal and hard to recognize.

 

I understand the pain of physical abuse but verbal abuse can be harder in many ways.  I never saw it as abuse in the beginning.  I thought this person was trying to help me be a better person.  What a crock!!!

 

I spent three years in therapy before I felt strong enough in who I was to be single, alone and totally responsible for my own actions. However, I spent almost 30 years having someone tell me I was basically worthless.  It's a very long story.

 

In thinking about the situations presented on the show, I fully understand the sick but very real possession that one person can have on another.  My mom used to tell me that according to the Bible, you should be submissive and follow your husband's rules.  She didn't have it quite right in that it doesn't always stand true. She never talked about the husband's role to love the wife as God loves his church. 

 

It's hard to break a routine that has been established, the constant ridicule and mean spirited approach making it look like that person is doing this for your own good.  I now have a hard time believing I ever fell for that junk.  But... I did and I understand the process.

 

I guess what I want to get across here is that we are all worth the best of life has to offer.  I want to tell people that they have to love themselves enough to break away from the sickness of the other person.  I admit it isn't easy and sometimes it's so hard that you can fear for your life but there is this saying: "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."  It is true.  I think now that even though I wish I hadn't stayed so long, I am a stronger person.  I am extremely worthwhile all on my own.  I am a good person, a great person. 

 

Please break away from the destructive behavior of someone who is sick and taking you down with them.

The things you said in your quote sound so familiar.  I think my husband is verbally abusive a lot of the time.  I don't know if it was how he was raised or what, but he seems to be negative about so many things in life.  He has many good qualities like, a good work ethic, and he loves his kids with his whole heart but he treats me like one of the kids most of the time (except when he wants sex!)  Most people who know him, including his own family, think he's great.  He works a lot of hours at his job, is a good employee/boss, has spent several years volunteering with little league and babe ruth baseball leagues coaching and being on the board of directors, has been very successful in having his teams win league championships, state and other tournaments, etc.  The team members and other coaches really like him.  They don't see him at home.  They don't interact with him on the same level as I do and the kids do. 

 

What most people wouldn't see, but I see very clearly, is that he does this "volunteering" to make himself look good.  He often complains about the work involved and the inconveniences of the time he puts in, but he sure basks in the glory of "good job" and back slapping that happens when things go well with a team.  After every game, if I've attended, he asks me what was said in the stands and is always fishing for either compliments or complaints from parents/spectators, but turns around and says that he doens't care what other people think. They just have to understand that being out there coaching is totally different from sitting in the stands and watching the game. He's always going on about how much time he spends and how dedicated he is to the players, our son included, and blah, blah.......but he never seems to recognize how much I am doing and how much more work I have to do because he's always gone, tired, or whatever.  We have four children, ages 13, 10, 6 and 2.  I also work full-time (I'm a teacher so I'm home during school breaks), plus do all of the housework, laundry, running kids back and forth to appointments, yard-work during the summer, etc.  When I say anything about the fact that I do as much work as a stay-at-home mom or full-time mom, plus work a full time job, he says that I'm only a part-time mom since my kids are in school and/or at his mom's when I'm working.  A part-time mom?   What the **** is that? 

 

The biggest thing is that with everything he does, he's not always around to see how things get handled.  I may not be the best mom in the world, but I'm pretty damn good.  I don't always make the right parenting decisions, sometimes I'm impatient and inconsistent with discipline, but I try my best.  Two of our kids have been diagnosed with ADHD, which also complicates things.  They take medication and it helps but is not a cure all.  Whenever I make a poor decision, parenting wise, he always points it out, and not in a nice way.  He does this in front of the kids all the time.  In some, but not all, cases he is right and I could have handled something differently or I let one of them get away with something they shouldn't have, but even if I admit this, he continues to belittle me or tell me what I did wrong.  This usually involves him yelling at me and being very accusatory.  Whether I respond by yelling back, being defensive, or listeing and telling him "you know what, you're right, I could have handled that better", it doesn't matter.  He continues to tell me about how wrong I was and how I should have handled it. 

 

This actually doesn't apply only to bad parenting decisions.  He acts this way about almost everything.  I feel like I have to watch every word I say about every subject because I know he'll misinterpret something I say and end up arguing.  When I try to explain what I meant by something that he has misunderstood, he usually won't listen or tells me it's bullshit. If he says something to me and I misunderstand for whatever reason, in his view, it just means that I wasn't paying attention (because I also have adult ADD), or some other excuse.  He very seldom actually listens to what I thought he meant or said or tries to look at anything from my perpective.  I feel like he thinks his perspective is the only one there is.  When I get frustrated and angry and lash out after being put down or whatever, he blames in on my ADD medication by saying that it must have worn off or I didn't take it or something else.  This is usually not true.  He calls it my "crazy medication". I'll admit my temper was often worse before the medication, but I never lost my temper for no reason.  It was always out of sheer frustration with him because he would not listen to me, made fun of me, or interrupted every time I would try to defend myself against something he said that wasn't true. 

 

Most of the time, I would like to get a divorce but it's not easy.  I know he would make it hell by fighting for custody, slamming me to his family and the kids, and would fight me over everything every step of the way.  His parents babysit our youngest child during the day and they pick two of the other kids up after school four days a week.  I really don't want to change that situation both for financial reasons and for my child's sake.  It wouldn't be fair to her to take her away from the only babysitter she's ever known, her grandparents, but at the same time, I dont' know how things would be between myself and his family if we split up. His mother has made it very clear that she feels strongly about divorce being very bad for children, plus for the most part, she thinks her son is a saint.    We've been to counseling before, but stopped after my 3rd child was born.  In all honesty, the therapist sucked.  I finally convinced him this past fall to go again and found a new therapist, but he basically stopped going.  He hasn't gone in 6 or 7 months. It is difficult to go with our schedules, but I dont' think it does much good if you dont' go with an open heart and mind.  I'm really tired of feeling like I'm caught in a trap and like I'm living a life where other people think I'm going great, but I'm really screaming inside most of the time. 

 

Don't know what else to say. If anyone has any advice, I'd be glad to hear it. Thanks for letting me vent

 
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