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(Original Air Date: 05/16/07) What would you do if your spouse belittled you and threatened your life? For women who have ever endured verbal, physical or emotional abuse in a relationship, Dr. Phil helps break the silence. Amy says her husband, Lee, is volatile and dangerous. She says he has choked and kicked her, and even held a knife to her throat! Lee’s mother, Sandy, says Amy and Lee argue constantly, but they’ve never been physical. How does she react when Dr. Phil plays a tape of Lee confessing his abusive ways? Then, Amy’s parents, Cynthia and Stan, fear for their daughter’s life and don’t think she’s providing a safe environment for her kids. Amy says she loves her husband and wants her folks to butt out. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Lee joins the show via satellite because he’s on probation for a domestic violence charge, and cannot leave the state. He admits to having anger issues but says he’s working to control them. Can Lee change his violent ways? Is it possible to rebound from being with an abuser? Tell us what you think.

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May 14, 2007, 11:01 pm PDT

Hey Lee!

Lee, you ever heard of the movie, THE BURNING BED?  It's a rather interesting movie...I suggest you watch it! 

 

Lee I offer you a small piece of advice...stop abusing your wife before you push her too far.  I can promise you this, If you continue to hurt your wife this will all backfire on you in the long run.  Everyone has a breaking point and if you continue down the path you are traveling you will see your wifes breaking point.  

 

I can tell you, if your  wife did decide to "snap" on your ass I would be to the first to stand up and give her a round of applause.  I don not like to promote violence as a general rule, BUT in your case, I say to your wife...I hope she kicks your ass very soon!

 

Men like you make me sick!!!  Deep down inside your pitiful little soul you are a coward!  I bet you would never treat a stranger the way you treat your wife...A stranger would pound you into hamburger meat if you tried that crap with them.  And to be honest, I think a good pounding is just what you need to wake up and realize you are a waste of air!

 

I'm sure you have all kinds of excusses for "why you do what you do to your wife", but believe me, you will get NO sympothy here.  " Oh, poor me, I was an abused child, I watched my parents fight when I was growing up, I don't know how to control myself....BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!"  There are no excusses for ANY form of abuse. You are a grown man...you KNOW right from wrong...and you know that abusing your wife is WRONG! 

 

It is time you grow up Lee! Join the adult population and keep your hands and vicious comments to yourself!  Stop dumping your personal demons all over your wife!

 
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May 15, 2007, 3:09 am PDT

I understand

As many times as I see shows on abuse I still get sickened by them. Unfortunatly I understand first hand how hard it is to get yourself out of an abusive relationship. It is not as simple as the "just leave!" that falls from most peoples lips. My heart goes out to all women and children in this situation, and remember - there is hope, help, and a way out.
 

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May 15, 2007, 5:55 am PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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Although I don't get to see the show often, when I see that there is a show on abuse, I perk up.  It is a sad state indeed.

 

I've been there and have been free from it for almost 10 years now.  I must say that I wish my abuse would have been physical on some level.  Then I would have seen the brutality.  In my case it was verbal and hard to recognize.

 

I understand the pain of physical abuse but verbal abuse can be harder in many ways.  I never saw it as abuse in the beginning.  I thought this person was trying to help me be a better person.  What a crock!!!

 

I spent three years in therapy before I felt strong enough in who I was to be single, alone and totally responsible for my own actions. However, I spent almost 30 years having someone tell me I was basically worthless.  It's a very long story.

 

In thinking about the situations presented on the show, I fully understand the sick but very real possession that one person can have on another.  My mom used to tell me that according to the Bible, you should be submissive and follow your husband's rules.  She didn't have it quite right in that it doesn't always stand true. She never talked about the husband's role to love the wife as God loves his church. 

 

It's hard to break a routine that has been established, the constant ridicule and mean spirited approach making it look like that person is doing this for your own good.  I now have a hard time believing I ever fell for that junk.  But... I did and I understand the process.

 

I guess what I want to get across here is that we are all worth the best of life has to offer.  I want to tell people that they have to love themselves enough to break away from the sickness of the other person.  I admit it isn't easy and sometimes it's so hard that you can fear for your life but there is this saying: "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."  It is true.  I think now that even though I wish I hadn't stayed so long, I am a stronger person.  I am extremely worthwhile all on my own.  I am a good person, a great person. 

 

Please break away from the destructive behavior of someone who is sick and taking you down with them.

  I live with a man who is I believe verbally abusive.He's says he's just kidding around,but it's not funny anymore.I get called fat ass (i only weigh about 125lbs).He calls me stupid,bitch,idiot.He tells me I can't do anything right.It 'goes on all the time,I've asked him to stop,but he just laughs it off.When I try to leave him he always talks me into staying.I hope this lady can get out or get him help.
 
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May 15, 2007, 9:35 am PDT

Getting out

 I got married when I was 15years old, divorced by 17 and then I meet an older guy who had money and promised to take care of me and my daughter.
By the third date he proposed  I was so stupid  to think it was because of my charm and looks
( wrong )It was a trap and once I was inn I could never get out.
I think not all abusers are the same some are more sophisticated and have brain washing techniques, verbal  abuse, treats and just about any kind of manipulative trick in the bag.
And its sad to say that in many instances these are people that attend church; and some even do some kind of work are church  but once they get home they turn into demons.
I was one of them and once after a beating my husband told me that I was the bad one and I caused him to hit me because all the hate that I felt toward him.
And I was shocked to think that  being a christian I could harvest those taughts.But he was right and I did hate him.
At that point I decided to work at myself and become a better person and this had a deep effect on both  and  in about a year he changed too and became a different person and stopped the abuse.
Our marriage changed and we became friends and just as we were getting along he past away.
I totally understand the e mails and  people who have not been trough the ordeal don't realize that fear has a paralizing effect.
At the time I was married I lived in Mexico and I as sure that I would not get any support from the legal system ( the sentences are't severe at all )and he had worked as at the judicial police and had trained with the FBI tracking down people in Mexico I was sure that I did not mather where I hide he would find me.I once had a loded gun poin to my head, so I was sure that he meant business.
I can only say that some people do change.
 
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May 15, 2007, 11:43 am PDT

Way Too Many

The show hasn't aired and there are so many post and responses about this subject.....so sad.  Each post holds a part of me, physical abuse in marriage #1, I married young  2 kids by age 18, widow by 19.  I did leave him after he tried to kill me 5 months before he committed suicide.  Marriage #2 another winning relationship..(haha) been in a 30 year, mental abuse, no one wants to believe it or if they do it's my fault.  I've made numerous mistakes along the way, I've let my children down (all grown now) this is the part that makes me sick, I allowed him to treat me as a possession, to influence my every thought and behavior.   In some ways I still allow it, I have become dependent on him because he broke me down physically and mentally.   It doesn't look as though I have a right to be posting this at all.  I say to any woman, get out of it as soon as possible, don't sit and waste away!!!!  The verbal abuse is as bad as a broken body part or a massive black and blue mark , because it doesn't leave a visual reminder we tend to not pay attention to the pain.   I vented a bit, thank you for the opportunity.  PLEASE get out of an abusive relationship!!!!!
 
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May 15, 2007, 12:37 pm PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

Only Lee know weather he can change or not. No one is a lost cause. People can change if they want to and yes there are some abuser who have change and they are not abusers anymore

 

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May 15, 2007, 12:44 pm PDT

Get out now

Amy you need to take your kids and get away from Lee. Once an abuser always an abuser. I have had first hand experience that no matter how much they promise to change, they don't. I wish that when I was going through my abusive situation with my ex spouse 15 years ago that my parents would have stepped in. And although I have moved on with my life and remarried and had 2 other children, there are certain things that will bring up those old memories of the days that I spent being abused at the hands of a man. ANY MAN WHO DOES THAT TO  ANOTHER PERSON IS NO MAN IN MY BOOK.

 

Another abuse victim

 
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May 15, 2007, 9:54 pm PDT

I've survived the abuse

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Your life is a SUCCESS. We have been to war- and survived ! Congratulations . (I still recognize- that some - can't-) Trouble is- some of them leave - -in a body bag - -
I went through abuse when I was married, my ex-husbandwas good fer the 1st few months but after he rolled his truck going to work it got real bad, he was both mentally and phyiscially abusive, it only lasted 1 1/2 yrs cause I left him after he tried to kill my son. but because of the violent abuse I've never got married again or even dated. A abuser will destroy your life, get away from him fer the sake of the children, you deserve better, love shouldn't hurt, don't be his punching bag anymore, get out while you can before it's too late and they take you out in a body-bag, you're in a deadly circle of abuse, I pray you make the right choice and leave.  A surviver of abuse
 
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May 16, 2007, 4:43 am PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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Lee, you ever heard of the movie, THE BURNING BED?  It's a rather interesting movie...I suggest you watch it! 

 

Lee I offer you a small piece of advice...stop abusing your wife before you push her too far.  I can promise you this, If you continue to hurt your wife this will all backfire on you in the long run.  Everyone has a breaking point and if you continue down the path you are traveling you will see your wifes breaking point.  

 

I can tell you, if your  wife did decide to "snap" on your ass I would be to the first to stand up and give her a round of applause.  I don not like to promote violence as a general rule, BUT in your case, I say to your wife...I hope she kicks your ass very soon!

 

Men like you make me sick!!!  Deep down inside your pitiful little soul you are a coward!  I bet you would never treat a stranger the way you treat your wife...A stranger would pound you into hamburger meat if you tried that crap with them.  And to be honest, I think a good pounding is just what you need to wake up and realize you are a waste of air!

 

I'm sure you have all kinds of excusses for "why you do what you do to your wife", but believe me, you will get NO sympothy here.  " Oh, poor me, I was an abused child, I watched my parents fight when I was growing up, I don't know how to control myself....BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!"  There are no excusses for ANY form of abuse. You are a grown man...you KNOW right from wrong...and you know that abusing your wife is WRONG! 

 

It is time you grow up Lee! Join the adult population and keep your hands and vicious comments to yourself!  Stop dumping your personal demons all over your wife!

You are right on the money!  Lucky for me and my ex, my breaking point happened only in my thoughts.  I thank God I did not carry out my thoughts, shooting him and the woman he was having an affair with while they were asleep in bed.  He wasn't worth it.

 
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May 16, 2007, 5:37 am PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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Amy you need to take your kids and get away from Lee. Once an abuser always an abuser. I have had first hand experience that no matter how much they promise to change, they don't. I wish that when I was going through my abusive situation with my ex spouse 15 years ago that my parents would have stepped in. And although I have moved on with my life and remarried and had 2 other children, there are certain things that will bring up those old memories of the days that I spent being abused at the hands of a man. ANY MAN WHO DOES THAT TO  ANOTHER PERSON IS NO MAN IN MY BOOK.

 

Another abuse victim

Amy all I have to say is GET OUT while you can. My ex was is an abuser and will never change and neither will your husband. Your kids are more important then he is so do the right thing and take them and go. Protect your kids at all cost.

 
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