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February 9, 2006, 2:24 am PST

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I am so sorry to hear about your troubles with your brother.  It is so difficult to know what to do.  Currently I am in the process of separating from my fiance (been together 5 years) because his drinking has almost gotten out of control.  He is divorced and now wants to move his 12 year old son in to live with us.  I am a nervous wreck because of his drinking and can't even think about caring for a child.  That might sound selfish, but it is so terribly stressful living with someone who drinks and drives and you get calls from the police to come and get him (2 DUI's).  Three days before his son came for a visit a police officer called me at my job and asked me to come get my fiance because the police dept. had received calls that he was driving all over the road.  I had to leave work giving my boss another lie and pick him up.  The officer let him go because his breathalizer was just under the legal limit.  I saw my fiance speaking nicely to the cop, but I knew that he wouldn't be that way with me.  He was out of control in the car - kept banging on the door, turning up the radio, etc.  Finally he said I don't care any more and unbuckled his seatbelt and unlocked the door and opened it while I was driving about 60 miles an hour!  He tried to get out and he is a very large man and I was screaming and trying to hold him in the car.  Luckily we were close to home and I got him there safely, but I haven't been able to recover from that experience.  I am now so stressed and anxious.  I've seen my doctor and she told me I've lost 20 pounds since May.  I am now about 95 pounds and still can hardly eat from nerves.  I have to force myself.  I don't sleep at night and am always tired.  My fiance had the nerve to say a week or so back that the only reason we are not staying together is because of his kids.  In other words, I don't like them or want them.  He completely ignores the fact that he is an out of control alcoholic.  How can he care for a 12 year old?  He is going to kill himself with his actions or someone else.  He has told his family what a horrible person I am regarding his son and because they live out of state and don't know what's been happening, they believe him.  This man was so dear to me in the beginning and I loved him very much.  It is breaking my heart now to see him spiral downwards.  He is depressed, very overweight, and drinking constantly.  He won't live long.   I've read so many books on alcoholism and how to help your alcoholic and I've attended Al-Anon meetings and tried to be loving and supportive (as per the books), but to no avail.  Is there anyone else out there living this life?  I want some peace for myself, but I fear for what will happen to him when we are no longer together (he already has missed a car payment and is in debt.  Before our breakup I would have helped him and he would then pay me back)  He is terribly verbally abusive to me and it used to break my heart.  Some men from AA have met with him and told me he is heading downward and I need to get out because they fear for my safety.  I agree with them (he has not touched me yet).  It is so difficult to love someone yet let them go for the sake of your own mental and physical health.  My heart is just aching all the time.

Hi, I just joined the club because I am also looking for support.  It sounds like we are on the same both.  My husband went to an eight month program back in 1991. He went through the whole AA program for about two years and stayed sober for 13 years. In Spring 2001 he decided that he deserved to enjoy a drink or two and started getting drunk just like the way it was before he got sober. I always thought that when a recovered alcoholic relapses, he would drop dead, because it happened to a couple of people he knew form the program. But my husband didn't even get sick the first time he drunk after so many years. He drinks very heavily. He would start drinking on a Friday afternoon and stop 24 hours later or sometimes longer.  He goes completely crazy, agresive, mean, offensive and violent.  Like in your situation, he torments me and abuses me mentally and emotionally. He also gets crazy enough to try to jump out of the car while I'm driving because I refuse to stop so that he can get more alcohol.  Completely out of control, crazy, yelling and causing me and everyone else out, whoever he sees in front of him.  I understand exactly how you feel.... This is how I feel every time he gets drunk; Terrified, stressed out, restless, frightened, insecure, traumatized, angry, abandoned, hopeless and dissapointed.  I am to the point where I feel at the end of my rope and I know that my only chance to regaing some peace is to attend Alanon.  I need to regain control of my life and my sanity because he is taking everything out of me.  

You should be proud of yourself for having the courage to get out.  Do yourself a favor, if you can make it on your own, don't ever go back with him.  You need to find a man that is able to give you a normal life.   This weekend my husband verbally abused and harrassed a couple of teenagers in the family while he was completely intoxicated at the beach.  I am trying to make him realize that this is the worse thing he has ever done and that it's time to stop. I have been very upset since, just thinking about all the things he said to these kids and I know it's also time for me to stop giving him chances.  Me and my daughter are starting Alanon this week.  I know it will help us to heal little by little.  My husband says he doesn't remember anything that he did to these kids, but he says that this time he will go to AA.  He has been saying that for the past four years so I won't believe it until I see it.  But this time, I know I owe it to other people to make a serious desition if he doesn't. 

Thanks for sharing your story...  it helps to know that you're not alone  ---------- Good luck to you! 

 
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February 9, 2006, 5:29 am PST

on a name change

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Thanks so much for updating us!  I'm glad you didn't have trouble with the new format -- I think we lost some folks who never quite made it back. 

  

And I'm really glad to hear your good news.  It sounds like you're doing everything right!  Stay close to people in the program - they're your biggest cheerleaders. 

  

 PS - Maybe it's time to change your username :) 

I agree with Indian! How about Dopinomore? 

  

  

Peace and Namaste 

  

Mischif 

 
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February 9, 2006, 11:44 am PST

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Hi, I just joined the club because I am also looking for support.  It sounds like we are on the same both.  My husband went to an eight month program back in 1991. He went through the whole AA program for about two years and stayed sober for 13 years. In Spring 2001 he decided that he deserved to enjoy a drink or two and started getting drunk just like the way it was before he got sober. I always thought that when a recovered alcoholic relapses, he would drop dead, because it happened to a couple of people he knew form the program. But my husband didn't even get sick the first time he drunk after so many years. He drinks very heavily. He would start drinking on a Friday afternoon and stop 24 hours later or sometimes longer.  He goes completely crazy, agresive, mean, offensive and violent.  Like in your situation, he torments me and abuses me mentally and emotionally. He also gets crazy enough to try to jump out of the car while I'm driving because I refuse to stop so that he can get more alcohol.  Completely out of control, crazy, yelling and causing me and everyone else out, whoever he sees in front of him.  I understand exactly how you feel.... This is how I feel every time he gets drunk; Terrified, stressed out, restless, frightened, insecure, traumatized, angry, abandoned, hopeless and dissapointed.  I am to the point where I feel at the end of my rope and I know that my only chance to regaing some peace is to attend Alanon.  I need to regain control of my life and my sanity because he is taking everything out of me.  

You should be proud of yourself for having the courage to get out.  Do yourself a favor, if you can make it on your own, don't ever go back with him.  You need to find a man that is able to give you a normal life.   This weekend my husband verbally abused and harrassed a couple of teenagers in the family while he was completely intoxicated at the beach.  I am trying to make him realize that this is the worse thing he has ever done and that it's time to stop. I have been very upset since, just thinking about all the things he said to these kids and I know it's also time for me to stop giving him chances.  Me and my daughter are starting Alanon this week.  I know it will help us to heal little by little.  My husband says he doesn't remember anything that he did to these kids, but he says that this time he will go to AA.  He has been saying that for the past four years so I won't believe it until I see it.  But this time, I know I owe it to other people to make a serious desition if he doesn't. 

Thanks for sharing your story...  it helps to know that you're not alone  ---------- Good luck to you! 

Howdy.  I'm sending a little "tough love" your way but, like most of what I say, it's really directed to anyone reading it, not you specifically. 

  

You keep referring to "my daughter and me" as if you're one entity.  You're not.  Your husband's drinking is affecting her in far different ways than it's affecting you.  I know this because I was the child of 2 alcoholic parents, I've been in a relationship with an alcoholic, and I am a recovering alcoholic myself.  I learned a lot during my recovery and parts of it were difficult, but I promise you that the most serious and troubling issues I've had to face have been those caused by growing up in an alcoholic household.  And the violence/drunkenness isn't even the biggest problem.  It's the behaviors that spring up when one parent is protecting a habit, and another is allowing this to happen and then rationalizing it somehow.  These are the dynamics that are forming your daughter's coping mechanisms, and they aren't good.   

  

You told one poster that she "needs to find a man that is able to give you a normal life".    Is having having a "man" all that important?   

  

I think Alanon is a great idea for you, but I suspect you'll need to turn your thinking around a bit.  Alanon doesn't teach family members how to live with an alcholic - it teaches them how to live without the alcoholic.  And that starts with setting firm and measurable boundaries, the biggest of which is that his drinking and your family life are incompatible. 

  

You really need to think more about what you're doing to your daughter by continuing to expose her to this.   You have good intentions - that much is obvious - but your daughter needs you to stop talking and start acting.  She's the one person in this triangle who has the most to lose and the least to say about it. 

 
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February 9, 2006, 11:45 am PST

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I agree with Indian! How about Dopinomore? 

  

  

Peace and Namaste 

  

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February 9, 2006, 11:54 am PST

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Somehow I lost a small portion of my message to you. 

  

The one thing you didn't mention is your daughter's age.  Obviously, if she's an adult and living on her own, some of the sense of urgency is gone, but my basic comments still apply.   

  

That's why Alanon will be so helpful.  There's a ton of support there, but it's geared towards ending the mess - not finding a way to exist within it.  And it ends either by getting him to realize by your actions that he can't drink, or getting pro-active and simply removing yourself from the situation.   

  

  

 
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February 9, 2006, 2:13 pm PST

You are right again!

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Hi again.  You asked:  "do you think the psychological symptoms that my son was exhibiting were due to alcoholism? " 

  

Even if I was a psychologist (which I'm not!) I think it would difficult to answer this question.  I do know that there have been studies "linking" alcoholism with certain other biochemically based conditions, like panic disorder.   Also, I don't recall you mentioning what meds he's been prescribed.  Some of them have side effects such as paranoia.   Finally, don't take this the wrong way, but when I hear about "confidence issues" and "impulse control"....I have to wonder if he's not being overdiagnosed and overscrutinized.  We all have these issues, especially when we're young.   

  

I just scanned through your posts, and something is suddenly leaping out at me!  Take this as the usual amount of knowledge combined with guesswork :) 

  

It sounds to me that all of you are operating under a fear-based mindset, based on a vague dread of letting your son live a normal life (I say this with no judgment or criticism, by the way).   You and your hubby don't like worrying about your son, so you help him create a safe environment at home.  The more acclimated he become to this "safe" environment, the more difficult it is for him to socialize with his contemporaries.  It's almost a siege mentality -- everyone hunkers down for the duration.    

  

As Dr. Phil would say, how's this working for you?? :)  Believe me, I understand where all of you are coming from, but this is simply not healthy for any of you.  For example, I had missed the part about your son taking online courses -- I can't see where that is helping any. 

  

Like I said in my last post, I do see indications that your son may be an early stage alcoholic.  But it won't fix the disease by constructing a world for him that rarely exceeds the boundaries of your front door, unless he's going to his part time job.    

  

If it was me, I'd do a couple of things (in addition to hitting an Al Anon meeting, since I know others have reacted the same way you have).  But I would start building achievable goals for him that are geared towards facing the real world.  End the online courses - school is perfect for bonding with contemporaries.  Also, I don't know about his course load, but if it's only a couple of classes a week, he could probably do another part-time job, or expand his current one.  What about hobbies -- does he have any where he could join clubs?  Keep him busy and exposed. 

  

The bad news in all this is that, if he is an alcoholic, the disease will have to play itself out.  Yes, it does expose him to potential risk....but by removing all sources of risk, you're not eliminating the problem, you are merely postponing it.    If he starts taking these steps while still living at home, you'll be much more aware of any problems that arise.  

Hi, 

  

Sorry for disappearing for a while. It has been a crazy ten days at work. I had read your thoughtful advice and talked to my son about increasing his work days or getting another parttime job. Glad to report he likes the ieda. He has also started going to AA again and this time seems to have clicked with someone there. I haven't been to Al-Anon yet, but will definitely go now that my work schedule has become normal again.  

  

You are right - we cannot live in anxiety and continually try to create a safe haven. He is the one who has to learn to deal with it. But we are a close family and he knows that we will always love him,  but will not bend over backwards to accomodate any nonsense. 

  

Thanks for being here. 

 
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February 9, 2006, 3:46 pm PST

Don't know where to start.....

I'm new to the boards, and didn't really know which category to even start with.  I'm starting here because my husband's drinking seems to be (admittedly from my viewpoint) the biggest problem in our marriage.   

  

We've been married for almost 3 years, but known each other for about 15.  He has always drank, but I feel that lately it's affecting his behaviour in some very negative ways.  I've tried talking to him when he's sober (before noon), and trying to offer help in any way I can, but although he says "I know I'm a drunk" he refuses to seek help or to stop.  The best offer I get is that he will slow down.  He gets verbally abusive when he drinks and it's tearing me to shreds (and I'm not the most self-confident person to start with and I realize this may be a huge part of MY problem). 

  

Sunday he moved into a different bedroom where he has most of the comforts of home - his own area complete with TV/VCR, etc.  Now he eats there, sleeps there, drinks there and only shares the common areas of the house when he has to. 

  

I have 3 children from my life prior to him, and he's a great father (when he's sober). 

  

I talked to him Tuesday morning and asked where do we go from here.  He said he didn't know.  I told him I was doing everything I could think of to try to save our marriage but nothing seems to make him happy and that I need some ideas from him.  He didn't have any.  He's been telling me he wants a divorce for about a year and a half. 

  

I've checked into Alanon meetings in our area, but haven't gone to any yet. 

  

Is there any hope?  And if not, how do I get out of this without feeling like the failure? 

  

Any input would be much appreciated.  Thanks!! 

 
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February 9, 2006, 3:51 pm PST

Don't know where to start.....

I'm new to the boards, and didn't really know which category to even start with.  I'm starting here because my husband's drinking seems to be (admittedly from my viewpoint) the biggest problem in our marriage.   

  

We've been married for almost 3 years, but known each other for about 15.  He has always drank, but I feel that lately it's affecting his behaviour in some very negative ways.  I've tried talking to him when he's sober (before noon), and trying to offer help in any way I can, but although he says "I know I'm a drunk" he refuses to seek help or to stop.  The best offer I get is that he will slow down.  He gets verbally abusive when he drinks and it's tearing me to shreds (and I'm not the most self-confident person to start with and I realize this may be a huge part of MY problem). 

  

Sunday he moved into a different bedroom where he has most of the comforts of home - his own area complete with TV/VCR, etc.  Now he eats there, sleeps there, drinks there and only shares the common areas of the house when he has to. 

  

I have 3 children from my life prior to him, and he's a great father (when he's sober). 

  

I talked to him Tuesday morning and asked where do we go from here.  He said he didn't know.  I told him I was doing everything I could think of to try to save our marriage but nothing seems to make him happy and that I need some ideas from him.  He didn't have any.  He's been telling me he wants a divorce for about a year and a half. 

  

I've checked into Alanon meetings in our area, but haven't gone to any yet. 

  

Is there any hope?  And if not, how do I get out of this without feeling like the failure? 

  

Any input would be much appreciated.  Thanks!! 

 
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February 9, 2006, 4:21 pm PST

HEY NOW.....

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LOL!!!!! 

    Easy now! My name doesn't come from that. I got my nik-name about 17years ago (wow that makes me feel old) 'cause I'm cute and smiley like the dwarf dopey. So actually it fits me better now 'cause I'm happier and more like I was back then. 

  

So I hope now that you know the origin of it you will see it differently and embrace it. 

  

Yes I will be sticking around more looks like you could use the help. 

  

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February 9, 2006, 8:50 pm PST

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I grew up in a large family my parents were musicians so there was always party's and drinking and drugs. And I grew up saying "I'm never gonna drink!,I'm never gonna smoke!" and felt at that stage in my life that i wanted so much more.  

I am now 27 and I am not that determined little girl anymore. I started smoking pot when i was 13 and binge drinking having party's of my own every weekend when my parents were working. 

 And now here i am everyday now waking up with wondering how much smoko ive got or if im not to sick to get drunk again and sometimes i dosent matter if i am sick  I'll drink anyway but without fail ive got to have my pot everyday or who knows what foul mood ill be in. 

And i just cant believe ive let myself get this way.I feel WEAK and HOPELESS. 

Ive been able to give up for short times, and you know, get healthy, meditate, excersice but to tell the truth my life is SOOOO full on at the moment and for the past 10 years its been my way of coping, my little salvation my little escape,I dont want to stop its the only way ive taught myself to deal with stuff. 

 But in reality it has done me or my health No favours and the only person who is gonna stop and notice me is me. Good old ME! so once agian i have to try and put all the bad stuff behind me AGAIN and forgive evryone and myself and move forward, Rise above, Easier said then done . 

No one every grows up and say  I think I will be a drug addicted or alocholic, but one day I did become one, addicted to crack, started out with the drinking and it grows and grows and grows to trying more and more drugs, trying to get higher than you did before.  Wanting to fill a void, a emptiness, a longing, TRYING to ESCAPE, but never escaping. Matter of fact feeling worst than you did before you took your first drink or smoke for the day. One day someone cared about me and told me a someone who could take the taste and craing out of my body forever. Did I want this? I was so used to getting high, I did not know what I wanted, scared to be without and scared to keep doing it. But I made a choice, because I wanted a better life, one where I did not have to keep looking over my shoulders, not having money, selling myself short, looking older than my years and simply not able to cope with reality. So I accepted Jesus, yep strung out on crack, I had gone from just doing it on weekends to wanting it everyday and I still worked, kept house and raised my children. But I knew there was more to my life then to keep getting high, destroying my body, my mind and the people who loved me. The addiction is greater than you, it is more powerful than you and you need someone with Power, to deliver you from this thing. It wants to destory your life and it is ONLY YOU that can make the decision to say enough is enough and I want to LIVE! 

  

You are still young and you can have a new beginning in life. I did. I stopped doing drugs the very day that I made Jesus my Savior, I was 33. He cares for you. If you have tried everything else and it has failed now give Him a try and He will not let you down. I needed miracles to happen in my life with only a high school diploma,  I needed a good paying job, it was hard to get one with my criminal record, but I know that if I surrendered my life to Him, that He would take care of me. I got a good paying job, not one, but two, flew to different cities at the expense of the company. I know it is not all about that but if that is what you need at the time then it is. I was able to work, sleep peacefully and enjoy life without ever being high again and the same can happen for you. Learn to accept the fact that you cannot do it, you cannot change yourself, accept the fact that you need someone greater than you to do a great thing in you. I say to you today, LIVE. 

  

I only want to encourage you to let His footsteps be the ones to carry you through and you can live and enjoy life. 

 
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