Topic : Addiction Support

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April 20, 2006, 10:55 am PDT

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I am new to the board,so I really don't even no how to start! I read some of the post from 4-16 from indian&coffee?about someone close being addicted.Sounded like one of you had been there before<don't understand how this board works yet>anyway,I was on meth 12 years ago destored my marrage.Now I am with Jerry<7 years>and for the past 4 months he has been taking adderall like crazy!! I tried it for a couple weeks and I tell ya it's the closest thing to meth that you can come to.So I stopped,now he is spending so much $ on it and is totally hooked.He was also on meth years ago and knows that it will destory us if he don't get off'em.Everybody in this town is on it seems like.I told I would leave him if he doesn't stop of course he said he would,but last night I found 3 of'em.So now what do I do??If I leave,he will just do even more of'em and we have o 5 yr. old son that would see his dad really go wild.I know I can't 'save' him but what do I do??
 
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April 20, 2006, 2:34 pm PDT

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i am writing this a my sister vicki doesnt have access to a computer. she is 47 and is dying from herion. she looks like she weighs only about 80 pounds and wants to stop, but needs  methadone etc to quit, to quit cold turkey now would probably kill her and she knows it, we have no funds for rehab and the cheapest ones someone found a while ago wanted at least  $50 ? a week for methadone. she looks like she is dying and i am afraid she is going to as well. what can we do ? can anyone plz recommend a free clinc for this in around downtown denver colorado plz ? does any one have any connections that they would be willing to use in order to save her life ? does anyone know of any body who runs a program that would be willing to to take her for free plz ? she has been on herion for a few years now and wants to stop. plz help us someone plz. dr. Phill plz read this and help us ! :0)  
I am sorry about your sister. I do not know of any place for her to attend. My only answer is for her to cry out to Jesus to save her, he can and will take the desire away from in a second, if she only believe. He is her only HOPE for LIFE. My church is coming out there  May 24-25 HCCI ministry.org we are going to do a powerful, anointed Crusade in Boulder, CO. I pray that she will there is a better way and only God can give it to her. There is nothing too great for Him to do, He died and now lives for Vicki. He wants her to come to Him and be delivered from the power of the prince of this world. He is her Refuge, He is a strong tower that she can run to and be safe. I did 15 yrs ago, I was strung out on crack and had no hope, I was delieverd the second I asked Jesus to forgive me of all of my sins and come into my heart and save me. He will do the same for her. Find a church that believe in the healing power of God and laying of hands and take her or do in your home, for Jesus will meet her there. After that she needs to go to church and read her Bible and learn to pray. God is only moved my our faith.
 
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April 21, 2006, 2:30 pm PDT

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First of all, since it's you asking for the help and not your son, I suspect he's not ready to quit using drugs.  It's easy to say you want to stop - these are just words.  And all of us who are addicts/alcoholics have used them ourselves, usually to get someone else to stop harrassing us!

 

Please read through some of the recent posts, especially what coffee has had to say.  You'll find them instructive, because you are in the same situation, only it sounds like you're enabling him much worse if he's still living with you at 27 and not contributing financially.

 

Also, on the drivers license, I'm not sure what you're saying.  If you're saying his options are limited because he doesn't have ID, he can get a state ID.  If  you're saying it means he can't get to a place of employment, please give  him a bus schedule!!

 

Even though you don't intend it this way, your current arrangement is merely giving him permission to continue using drugs, while talking about how he doesn't want to.  

Hi Indian, 

Thank you for your advice. I haven't allowed my son to live with me for about 5 years now.  He currently lives with his dad (a nice man, but of no help) and I see him often.  We live in a small rural town with no bus services and the better paying jobs are in neighboring towns. Not being able to pass a drug test to get a decent job is more the problem. So, I guess he will keep going around in this circle and I have to stop making things worse by nagging.  I have bought him books - Dr. Phil's "Life Strategies" , Dr. Wayne Dyer's "Manifest Your Destiny"  to name a few.  I have given him Reiki treatments ( I am a Reiki master), but If he is not quite ready to be healed, there is nothing I can do. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 2:32 pm PDT

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In reading your post a couple of things came to mind. (cheapest ones someone found a while ago wanted at least $50.00) Was the suggestion for methadone given to your sister by her doctor? What steps has your sister taken for herself to find out. There are other ways of finding info besides the internet.

 

If this was awhile ago, why is the idea so important now? What happened to then?

 

I say this because I'm beginning to understand more and more about the "helpers" in the lives of the addicted. We see the destruction so clear and our love for our family and fear for their lives pushes us to act for them.

 

I'm beginning to learn the best way we can help them is to help ourselves in understanding the role we play and what "WE" need to do to help in the best ways possible. I'm not saying we need to fork out large sums of money on therapies or rehab that probably won't work if they're not at the stage to "really" act for themselves to stop what they are doing.

 

As helpers sometimes the best help we can give is not help. Supporting them in "their" efforts is a gift of love. Suggestions of "them" making phone calls to get information and suggestions of feedback for their "plan" to help themselves seem to be more in the area of where we should be.

 

Sounds like your sister is in desperate need of medical attention! Perhaps suggesting "she" call her doctor's office and have a heart to heart with him is a good place to start. There's nothing wrong with you going with her.

 

As many of the posts suggest by those who have been there before us, you may want to find an al-anon meeting in your area for yourself.

 

I really do feel your pain. There is nothing worse than watching someone you love destroy themselves.

 

There is hope and help out there! May you find the strength you need!

Coffee :)

Hi Coffee, 

Thank you very much for your advice. 

 

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April 22, 2006, 12:45 am PDT

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I am new to the board,so I really don't even no how to start! I read some of the post from 4-16 from indian&coffee?about someone close being addicted.Sounded like one of you had been there before<don't understand how this board works yet>anyway,I was on meth 12 years ago destored my marrage.Now I am with Jerry<7 years>and for the past 4 months he has been taking adderall like crazy!! I tried it for a couple weeks and I tell ya it's the closest thing to meth that you can come to.So I stopped,now he is spending so much $ on it and is totally hooked.He was also on meth years ago and knows that it will destory us if he don't get off'em.Everybody in this town is on it seems like.I told I would leave him if he doesn't stop of course he said he would,but last night I found 3 of'em.So now what do I do??If I leave,he will just do even more of'em and we have o 5 yr. old son that would see his dad really go wild.I know I can't 'save' him but what do I do??

I've tried a couple of times to respond to you, they don't seem to post and disappear into cyberspace, I hope they appear?  

   

coffee  :)  

 
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April 22, 2006, 4:48 am PDT

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i am writing this a my sister vicki doesnt have access to a computer. she is 47 and is dying from herion. she looks like she weighs only about 80 pounds and wants to stop, but needs  methadone etc to quit, to quit cold turkey now would probably kill her and she knows it, we have no funds for rehab and the cheapest ones someone found a while ago wanted at least  $50 ? a week for methadone. she looks like she is dying and i am afraid she is going to as well. what can we do ? can anyone plz recommend a free clinc for this in around downtown denver colorado plz ? does any one have any connections that they would be willing to use in order to save her life ? does anyone know of any body who runs a program that would be willing to to take her for free plz ? she has been on herion for a few years now and wants to stop. plz help us someone plz. dr. Phill plz read this and help us ! :0)  

Denver, CO   

Name: Addiction Research and Treatment Services
Site: 1827 Gaylord Street
Denver, CO 80206 Sponsor: Thomas J. Crowley, M.D.
Dept. of Psychiatry U of CO Med. Ctr.
4200 E. Ninth Avenue
Denver, CO 80262 Phone: (303) 388-5894  

Addiction Research and Treatment Services 1827 Gaylord Street Denver, CO 80206 Thomas J. Crowley, M.D. Dept. of Psychiatry U of CO Med. Ctr. 4200 E. Ninth Avenue Denver, CO 80262 (303) 388-5894

   

   

Comprehensive Addiction Treatment Services
Site: 2222 East 18th Avenue
Denver, CO 80206 Sponsor: Pamela J. Manuele
5355 S. Salida Court
Aurora, CO 80015-2537 Phone: (303) 394-2714   


Name: Substance Treatment Services
Site: 320 W. 8th Avenue
Denver, CO 80204 Sponsor: Stephen Dilts, M.D.
777 Bannock
Denver, CO 80204 Phone: (303) 893-7830   


Name: Vine Street Center
Site: 1714 Vine Street
Denver, CO 80262 Sponsor: Thomas Crowley M.D.
1714 Vine Street
Denver, CO 80262   

   

Name: Western Clinical Health Services of Colorado
Site: 1038 Bannock Street
Denver, CO 80204 Sponsor: Galen E. Rogers
3444 Camino Del Rio, N., Ste 200
San Diego, CO 92108 Phone: (303) 629-5239   

Western Clinical Health Services of Colorado 1038 Bannock Street Denver, CO 80204 Galen E. Rogers 3444 Camino Del Rio, N., Ste 200 San Diego, CO 92108 (303) 629-5239

   

Hope this info helps both you and your sister!  Good luck!  

 
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April 22, 2006, 4:54 am PDT

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Denver, CO   

Name: Addiction Research and Treatment Services
Site: 1827 Gaylord Street
Denver, CO 80206 Sponsor: Thomas J. Crowley, M.D.
Dept. of Psychiatry U of CO Med. Ctr.
4200 E. Ninth Avenue
Denver, CO 80262 Phone: (303) 388-5894  

Addiction Research and Treatment Services 1827 Gaylord Street Denver, CO 80206 Thomas J. Crowley, M.D. Dept. of Psychiatry U of CO Med. Ctr. 4200 E. Ninth Avenue Denver, CO 80262 (303) 388-5894

   

   

Comprehensive Addiction Treatment Services
Site: 2222 East 18th Avenue
Denver, CO 80206 Sponsor: Pamela J. Manuele
5355 S. Salida Court
Aurora, CO 80015-2537 Phone: (303) 394-2714   


Name: Substance Treatment Services
Site: 320 W. 8th Avenue
Denver, CO 80204 Sponsor: Stephen Dilts, M.D.
777 Bannock
Denver, CO 80204 Phone: (303) 893-7830   


Name: Vine Street Center
Site: 1714 Vine Street
Denver, CO 80262 Sponsor: Thomas Crowley M.D.
1714 Vine Street
Denver, CO 80262   

   

Name: Western Clinical Health Services of Colorado
Site: 1038 Bannock Street
Denver, CO 80204 Sponsor: Galen E. Rogers
3444 Camino Del Rio, N., Ste 200
San Diego, CO 92108 Phone: (303) 629-5239   

Western Clinical Health Services of Colorado 1038 Bannock Street Denver, CO 80204 Galen E. Rogers 3444 Camino Del Rio, N., Ste 200 San Diego, CO 92108 (303) 629-5239

   

Hope this info helps both you and your sister!  Good luck!  

Megan Marx, M.P.A. Controlled Substance Administrator Colorado Department of Human Services Alcohol and Drug Abuse Division 4055 S. Lowell Boulevard Denver, CO 80236 Phone: (303) 866-7493 Fax: (303) 866-7481 Email: megan.marx@state.co.us

  

Just found this place to add to the list! 

 
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April 22, 2006, 9:50 am PDT

To keep your posts from disapearing into cyberspace....

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I've tried a couple of times to respond to you, they don't seem to post and disappear into cyberspace, I hope they appear?  

   

coffee  :)  

If you are typing a lengthy message you should periodically hit the preview button and then the edit button. This system periodically times you out if it doesn't sense activity. Typing in the message field is not recognized as activity so unless you hit preview you entire message may be lost.  

  

You can also type your message in Word and then cut and paste it into the message field. Typing in Word also gives you more options with regard to spelling and grammar checks.  

  

I lost an awful lot of messages before I figured this out!  

  

Hope this helps  

  

Peace and Namaste  

Mischif  

 
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April 22, 2006, 4:35 pm PDT

Coffee, stay on the soap box!

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Sorry I read and answer one post at a time, I just saw you added to your post.  

   

Your not going to like my suggestion but here goes:  

   

The next time she comes home and passess out, her father should simply call an ambulance and report  a drug overdose. She would certainly get medical attention???????   She won't like it, but then again, she "CLAIMS" she would do an inpatient program????????      

   

As for worrying about the police?????   I would rather worry about them than the undertaker????  Sooner or later the police may be involved. What if she gets caught trying to buy or sell drugs?????  

   

Sorry, sometimes I get on my soap box!!  

Hang in there!  

Coffee :)  

   

   

Coffee, I am 50 years old and addicted to Xanax and trying to detox myself with my husband's help.  He gives me a certain amount of medicine each day.  I have been addicted to some kind of pill for 25 years.  I started detoxing at 12-14  mg. of Xanax a day.  I wish someone would have gotten on a soap box for me and put me in rehab when I was young.  Heck I wish I could go now, but I can't afford it.  You are right when you say they should would rather worry the undertaker.  I worry at age 50.  Anyway, I just wanted to let you know I thought your post was right on the mark.  I am new to Dr. Phil's message boards and hope I am posting this in the right place.  I used to be good on my  computer, but have become brain dead.
 
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April 22, 2006, 6:30 pm PDT

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Hi Indian, 

Thank you for your advice. I haven't allowed my son to live with me for about 5 years now.  He currently lives with his dad (a nice man, but of no help) and I see him often.  We live in a small rural town with no bus services and the better paying jobs are in neighboring towns. Not being able to pass a drug test to get a decent job is more the problem. So, I guess he will keep going around in this circle and I have to stop making things worse by nagging.  I have bought him books - Dr. Phil's "Life Strategies" , Dr. Wayne Dyer's "Manifest Your Destiny"  to name a few.  I have given him Reiki treatments ( I am a Reiki master), but If he is not quite ready to be healed, there is nothing I can do. 

Oh ok.  I get what you're saying about the drug test. 

  

On the rest of that, it's true that if he's not ready to be healed, there's nothing you can do to make him ready.  However, there's one option that might be helpful.  You say your ex is a good guy -- is there any way the 2 of you could get together and agree on some boundaries to be set for your son?  For example, if your husband isn't forcing your son to pay his way, he's doing him a tremendous disservice.  Is there any way you can get him to see that?  He needs a clearcut schedule of his financial obligations.  If he can't meet them, he must leave.  It then becomes a consequence of his drug use, and it's these consequences that get us addicts to finally realize what we've lost. 

  

The books and Reiki you mentioned are not the answer to any of this.  In fact, an active drug addict is pretty much incapable of changing anything about his life until he gets sober, so you're really putting the cart before the horse.   

  

That's why I'd suggest again that you go to an Alanon or Narcanon meeting - take your ex if you can.   You won't have to talk if you don't want to, but there's a lot of support and education in these meetings.  Your husband in particular needs to understand more about enabling and why it is the worst thing you can do "for" an addict or alcoholic.  It would also help you to learn what boundaries need to be set and  how to enforce them. 

  

 

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