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September 26, 2006, 12:20 pm PDT

need advice

I would like to know from other people who have been through this nightmare.  This might even

sound gross but why would my husband be totally confused and every night have accidents,

(going to the bathroom), where ever.  If it is not a big accident it is little dribbles where it seems

if he cannot control it.  The reason I am so scared is his mother developed a form of dementia

in her early 60's and she didn't drink as much. He has been to the doctor and apparently he

has given him a good report , only high blood pressure and high triglycerides.  I don't know if

he told him about his drinking, but I thought the doctor would find out with blood tests.  I am

so scared and have told him so, that he might be getting like his mom.  He seems fine in the

morning and afternoon, gos to work .  He has lost memory of advents. I says I can't take it any

more and then I do.   I feel like I'm babysitting my husband.  If I am not there to steer him in the

right direction I would really be in a mess. I have beg, yelled and done almost everything I can

think of and he always apoligizes and say he doesn't mean to do it and doesn't know that he

is doing it.  I feel so ashamed, He doesn't like animals in the house , I don't think I'd have as

much trouble with an animal.  I read all these stories but have never come across anyone

mentioning this type of problem which leads me to believe maybe there is something else

going on here.   That scares me because I took care of his mom for 15 years until the end

with feeding tubes, caths and diapers all watching our four children to boot.  Now we have 2

grandsons and i don't know what I would do if this happened all over again.  He won't listen

to me. and I can't force him to go to the doctor.  I am hoping this is just what severe alcoholics

do.  No one talks about this though.  this goes on every night because he drinks to excess

every night.  I am so afraid one day I won't be able to handle it.  I have dreamed of divorce but

I don't have the guts or something.  I always think I will be messing up our family and it would

be all my fault and I wouldn't be able to get it back.  Some would say I don't have much of one

now.  My husband has made us  a nice home I have nothing to complain about there and I

remind him often that I am proud of what we have done together.  So I can't explain why he

doesn't want more out of life than the wine.  our lives are not all that bad.  We went through

the bad times earlier in our lives now we have the good times ahead but  it isn't all that

great if I'm alone with a drunken husband.  I really would appreciate it if someone that has

this problem could tell me if this is normal acoholic behavior or it might be something bigger.

 

 
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September 27, 2006, 9:24 am PDT

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I tried to reply to your post to tell you about a different treatment option that has worked for me and is close to you. Did you get it? I can't find it. Maybe it was removed for some reason.
 
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September 27, 2006, 10:22 am PDT

i am not sure whom ur quote is to???

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I tried to reply to your post to tell you about a different treatment option that has worked for me and is close to you. Did you get it? I can't find it. Maybe it was removed for some reason.
I am unsure who your quote was too? were you addressing Camay or myself, I am syllin. I live in California, nowhere near Camay6, she is in Florida. If your information is for California, by all means-i am all ears. Regardless maybe you should try to post again, it could help someone else if not myself. and if u were trying to tell me, i did not get it. I did that one time too, had a long message and tried to post and i have no idea where the heck it went. I found out that if you hit that you wish to quote something, it always gets posted. i think that one time i hit replies to message or something. You have my curiosity aroused now. I would like to hear this different treatment. What i was trying to locate based on what i have read, was a treatment program that based its treatment on the Matrix Model. i would love to do a rapid detox but do not have the money, need the detox first then a good 30 inpatient program. No denial going on here. I know i have a problem, i just need help financially and someone to take care of my baby dog. There are a couple of other things that are extremely important too, that are necessary before i can go in. that is what worries me because i know sure as i am sitting here writing on line, if i do not get help within this year, there is no doubt in my mind, I  will not see next year. I am in my mid 50's. matter of time before my luck runs out, health wise. I have written Dr.Phil 3 times and a couple of other talk show hosts asking for help. No one has responded and it has been almost a month now. it took me 2 yrs to get the courage to ask anyone. And i am beginning to think that all these people and treatment centers that u go look at on line that say, if you think you are addicted and you want help, CALL NOW --WE CAN HELP, YOU ARE NOT ALONE...get on the road to recovery, start living your life now, call...You know, hate to say this but words are cheap...in total i have written for help/inquiring of services now to 7 places and not ONE has responded. I feel much like Camay6 does, the light/hope diminishes every time we attempt with no response. Or they cannot work with our particular circumstances.I have no one else i can go to, no family, no friends, the one i had i shut out because i didn't want to break her heart when she found out the truth. and when she did she would have dumped me because her sister 10 yrs ago had a situation much like mine and she hated it and she was very condescending when talking with her. i have had enough rejections in my life, I cannot handle another one,  so i cut her out before she did it to me. Let me know about the treatment..thank you...
 
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September 27, 2006, 12:10 pm PDT

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I am unsure who your quote was too? were you addressing Camay or myself, I am syllin. I live in California, nowhere near Camay6, she is in Florida. If your information is for California, by all means-i am all ears. Regardless maybe you should try to post again, it could help someone else if not myself. and if u were trying to tell me, i did not get it. I did that one time too, had a long message and tried to post and i have no idea where the heck it went. I found out that if you hit that you wish to quote something, it always gets posted. i think that one time i hit replies to message or something. You have my curiosity aroused now. I would like to hear this different treatment. What i was trying to locate based on what i have read, was a treatment program that based its treatment on the Matrix Model. i would love to do a rapid detox but do not have the money, need the detox first then a good 30 inpatient program. No denial going on here. I know i have a problem, i just need help financially and someone to take care of my baby dog. There are a couple of other things that are extremely important too, that are necessary before i can go in. that is what worries me because i know sure as i am sitting here writing on line, if i do not get help within this year, there is no doubt in my mind, I  will not see next year. I am in my mid 50's. matter of time before my luck runs out, health wise. I have written Dr.Phil 3 times and a couple of other talk show hosts asking for help. No one has responded and it has been almost a month now. it took me 2 yrs to get the courage to ask anyone. And i am beginning to think that all these people and treatment centers that u go look at on line that say, if you think you are addicted and you want help, CALL NOW --WE CAN HELP, YOU ARE NOT ALONE...get on the road to recovery, start living your life now, call...You know, hate to say this but words are cheap...in total i have written for help/inquiring of services now to 7 places and not ONE has responded. I feel much like Camay6 does, the light/hope diminishes every time we attempt with no response. Or they cannot work with our particular circumstances.I have no one else i can go to, no family, no friends, the one i had i shut out because i didn't want to break her heart when she found out the truth. and when she did she would have dumped me because her sister 10 yrs ago had a situation much like mine and she hated it and she was very condescending when talking with her. i have had enough rejections in my life, I cannot handle another one,  so i cut her out before she did it to me. Let me know about the treatment..thank you...
If you know of any good programs her in FL, Please let me know.  I am nearing the end..............I thought Florida Detox was the answer to my prayers, but.............nothing if you don't have 15,000.00.  There is a rapid detos in MI that is 5900.00 but it is for only 2-3 hours.  Does not sound like enough time to me.  Know anything about it????  I called my insurance today to see if they would cover Florida Detox,  When she said yes, I was on my way to check in.  Then......they told me they only cover 2500.00.  I turned around and drove home sobbing yet again which is what I continue to sit here and do.    Best of luck to you.  If I can do anything for you, please let me know even if you want me to come there and help you through it for a day or two.  I am like you,  I am a single parent and cannot do a long term treatment program.  If I could do Rapid Detox, I don't have a problem finding sitters a few times a week for follow up treatment, but just don't have anywhere for my son to go on a long term basis.  Plus, I have never been away from him except a few business trips here and there.  We are very close. he is all I have in this world and I owe it to  him and myself to get well.  I wish it was as easy as what they make it sound.  I have not heard from anyone I have written to, I though that there were caring people in the world.  I am losing faith in the compassion in people. 
 
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September 27, 2006, 12:24 pm PDT

Addiction Support

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I am unsure who your quote was too? were you addressing Camay or myself, I am syllin. I live in California, nowhere near Camay6, she is in Florida. If your information is for California, by all means-i am all ears. Regardless maybe you should try to post again, it could help someone else if not myself. and if u were trying to tell me, i did not get it. I did that one time too, had a long message and tried to post and i have no idea where the heck it went. I found out that if you hit that you wish to quote something, it always gets posted. i think that one time i hit replies to message or something. You have my curiosity aroused now. I would like to hear this different treatment. What i was trying to locate based on what i have read, was a treatment program that based its treatment on the Matrix Model. i would love to do a rapid detox but do not have the money, need the detox first then a good 30 inpatient program. No denial going on here. I know i have a problem, i just need help financially and someone to take care of my baby dog. There are a couple of other things that are extremely important too, that are necessary before i can go in. that is what worries me because i know sure as i am sitting here writing on line, if i do not get help within this year, there is no doubt in my mind, I  will not see next year. I am in my mid 50's. matter of time before my luck runs out, health wise. I have written Dr.Phil 3 times and a couple of other talk show hosts asking for help. No one has responded and it has been almost a month now. it took me 2 yrs to get the courage to ask anyone. And i am beginning to think that all these people and treatment centers that u go look at on line that say, if you think you are addicted and you want help, CALL NOW --WE CAN HELP, YOU ARE NOT ALONE...get on the road to recovery, start living your life now, call...You know, hate to say this but words are cheap...in total i have written for help/inquiring of services now to 7 places and not ONE has responded. I feel much like Camay6 does, the light/hope diminishes every time we attempt with no response. Or they cannot work with our particular circumstances.I have no one else i can go to, no family, no friends, the one i had i shut out because i didn't want to break her heart when she found out the truth. and when she did she would have dumped me because her sister 10 yrs ago had a situation much like mine and she hated it and she was very condescending when talking with her. i have had enough rejections in my life, I cannot handle another one,  so i cut her out before she did it to me. Let me know about the treatment..thank you...
It was originally meant for Camay because I live in the same area and my doctor is also in that area but there are many different doctors that offer this treatment. It may be an option for you as well!  I am addicted to pain pills and had tried so many times to quit on my own but failed every time. I was taking between 20-25 pills a day. I found a doctor that uses a medicine called Suboxone for detox. It's outpatient by the way. I have been clean for exactly a year this month. Suboxone is not a miracle drug  but it has given me my life back and given my son his mom back. Some people use it for a short 3-4 day detox but I am on a maintenance program. I take 1mg a day, which is hardly nothing. The recommended dosage is anywhere between 16-24mgs a day. I am on maintenance because I was so psychologically addicted to the pills that I didn't know how to live without them, they were a coping mechanism for me.  So for the last year I have been in therapy working on the reasons for my addiction in the first place as well as developing healthy coping skills. Some people say you are trading one addiction for another with Suboxone but I disagree because my addictive drug seeking behaviors are gone. You can not get high from it, it has a ceiling effect, and if you were to try to take a pain pill while on it, it would block it and you would not feel it. I'm afraid to list my doctors website again because I think that because I put a link it did not get posted. So email me if you want more info. Which ever way you decide to go...do not give up. It's so worth it.
 
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September 27, 2006, 12:32 pm PDT

Addiction Support

I'll try to post it this way so incase it doesn't work I won't have to retype everything. www.tampabaydetox.org

 

Click on opiates and after you read that at the bottom of the page click on buprenex.

 
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September 27, 2006, 1:24 pm PDT

doctors site

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It was originally meant for Camay because I live in the same area and my doctor is also in that area but there are many different doctors that offer this treatment. It may be an option for you as well!  I am addicted to pain pills and had tried so many times to quit on my own but failed every time. I was taking between 20-25 pills a day. I found a doctor that uses a medicine called Suboxone for detox. It's outpatient by the way. I have been clean for exactly a year this month. Suboxone is not a miracle drug  but it has given me my life back and given my son his mom back. Some people use it for a short 3-4 day detox but I am on a maintenance program. I take 1mg a day, which is hardly nothing. The recommended dosage is anywhere between 16-24mgs a day. I am on maintenance because I was so psychologically addicted to the pills that I didn't know how to live without them, they were a coping mechanism for me.  So for the last year I have been in therapy working on the reasons for my addiction in the first place as well as developing healthy coping skills. Some people say you are trading one addiction for another with Suboxone but I disagree because my addictive drug seeking behaviors are gone. You can not get high from it, it has a ceiling effect, and if you were to try to take a pain pill while on it, it would block it and you would not feel it. I'm afraid to list my doctors website again because I think that because I put a link it did not get posted. So email me if you want more info. Which ever way you decide to go...do not give up. It's so worth it.
can you try putting the doctors site up or give me his name.  What is Skuboxone?  I have heard of it but don't really know what it is?
 
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September 27, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

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If you know of any good programs her in FL, Please let me know.  I am nearing the end..............I thought Florida Detox was the answer to my prayers, but.............nothing if you don't have 15,000.00.  There is a rapid detos in MI that is 5900.00 but it is for only 2-3 hours.  Does not sound like enough time to me.  Know anything about it????  I called my insurance today to see if they would cover Florida Detox,  When she said yes, I was on my way to check in.  Then......they told me they only cover 2500.00.  I turned around and drove home sobbing yet again which is what I continue to sit here and do.    Best of luck to you.  If I can do anything for you, please let me know even if you want me to come there and help you through it for a day or two.  I am like you,  I am a single parent and cannot do a long term treatment program.  If I could do Rapid Detox, I don't have a problem finding sitters a few times a week for follow up treatment, but just don't have anywhere for my son to go on a long term basis.  Plus, I have never been away from him except a few business trips here and there.  We are very close. he is all I have in this world and I owe it to  him and myself to get well.  I wish it was as easy as what they make it sound.  I have not heard from anyone I have written to, I though that there were caring people in the world.  I am losing faith in the compassion in people. 

I just now saw that you had replied to me earlier and I missed it.  I apologize for that, but I blame the navigation in here, which is a train wreck.  It's odd that someone as savvy as Dr. Phil would have such dysfunctional message boards!

 

Here's my thought.  I do understand your difficulty with being apart from your son, but you're using that to short-circuit your treatment options.  If you had cancer and required inpatient chemo, would you refuse it?  I'm not being a drama queen here, it's the simple truth.

 

Anyway, you mentioned business trips.  Who cares for him when you travel? 

 

The reason I ask is that, if I were you, I would stop chasing miracle cures in MI and check with local hospitals to see which ones have an addiction treatment unit.  Then I would show up in their ER and say you need to be admitted for detox only.  (If you have a doctor you trust, it's better to work through him/her, but it isn't necessary.  When I was in this same mess, I literally grabbed a cab and told it to go to the ER).

 

Then you will probably be admitted to their detox unit for 5-7 days.  It is not painful at all, nor is it really unpleasant.  Detox can be medically managed.  During this time, you'll meet people from their outpatient unit and you'll also meet volunteers from local AA and NA meetings.  I know you won't believe this, but I'll say it anyway:  You'll be very glad you got to know these people when you get out after 5-7 days.  You cannot do this on your own, and these folks will guide you.  Then you can explore the hospital's outpatient program and payment options.

 

But they do have to admit you into the ER for detox and that's a good place to start.  I know it's scary, because I've been there....but once I saw what I was facing, my only question to myself was why it took so long.

 

If you don't have a good friend or contact to stay with your son during these 5-7 days, find one.  Ask around and/or interview. 

 

All the pieces will start to fall into place once you take these simple, but difficult, steps.  But until you do, all your comments about your son deserving a healthy mom are just that -- words.  He needs more than words - he needs you to act.  And you'll be glad you did!

 

 
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September 27, 2006, 1:49 pm PDT

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I just now saw that you had replied to me earlier and I missed it.  I apologize for that, but I blame the navigation in here, which is a train wreck.  It's odd that someone as savvy as Dr. Phil would have such dysfunctional message boards!

 

Here's my thought.  I do understand your difficulty with being apart from your son, but you're using that to short-circuit your treatment options.  If you had cancer and required inpatient chemo, would you refuse it?  I'm not being a drama queen here, it's the simple truth.

 

Anyway, you mentioned business trips.  Who cares for him when you travel? 

 

The reason I ask is that, if I were you, I would stop chasing miracle cures in MI and check with local hospitals to see which ones have an addiction treatment unit.  Then I would show up in their ER and say you need to be admitted for detox only.  (If you have a doctor you trust, it's better to work through him/her, but it isn't necessary.  When I was in this same mess, I literally grabbed a cab and told it to go to the ER).

 

Then you will probably be admitted to their detox unit for 5-7 days.  It is not painful at all, nor is it really unpleasant.  Detox can be medically managed.  During this time, you'll meet people from their outpatient unit and you'll also meet volunteers from local AA and NA meetings.  I know you won't believe this, but I'll say it anyway:  You'll be very glad you got to know these people when you get out after 5-7 days.  You cannot do this on your own, and these folks will guide you.  Then you can explore the hospital's outpatient program and payment options.

 

But they do have to admit you into the ER for detox and that's a good place to start.  I know it's scary, because I've been there....but once I saw what I was facing, my only question to myself was why it took so long.

 

If you don't have a good friend or contact to stay with your son during these 5-7 days, find one.  Ask around and/or interview. 

 

All the pieces will start to fall into place once you take these simple, but difficult, steps.  But until you do, all your comments about your son deserving a healthy mom are just that -- words.  He needs more than words - he needs you to act.  And you'll be glad you did!

 

my mother took care of my son when I traveled for business. she has recently passed.  If I go to the ER.  What do they do, let you lay in a bed and go through the withdrawl.  If that was to happen I would rather lay in my own bed and go through hell.  Maybe I will call the ER to see how they would handle it.    I feel that when I voice my concerns and problems, that everyone thinks they are excuses.  Not everyone are liars and I feel like I get slapped in the face evertime I post my concerns and questions.  BELEIVE ME, IF I HAD SOMEONE TO WATCH MY SONE FOR A INPATIENT PROGRAM, I WOULD................
 
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September 27, 2006, 2:06 pm PDT

subuxone

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It was originally meant for Camay because I live in the same area and my doctor is also in that area but there are many different doctors that offer this treatment. It may be an option for you as well!  I am addicted to pain pills and had tried so many times to quit on my own but failed every time. I was taking between 20-25 pills a day. I found a doctor that uses a medicine called Suboxone for detox. It's outpatient by the way. I have been clean for exactly a year this month. Suboxone is not a miracle drug  but it has given me my life back and given my son his mom back. Some people use it for a short 3-4 day detox but I am on a maintenance program. I take 1mg a day, which is hardly nothing. The recommended dosage is anywhere between 16-24mgs a day. I am on maintenance because I was so psychologically addicted to the pills that I didn't know how to live without them, they were a coping mechanism for me.  So for the last year I have been in therapy working on the reasons for my addiction in the first place as well as developing healthy coping skills. Some people say you are trading one addiction for another with Suboxone but I disagree because my addictive drug seeking behaviors are gone. You can not get high from it, it has a ceiling effect, and if you were to try to take a pain pill while on it, it would block it and you would not feel it. I'm afraid to list my doctors website again because I think that because I put a link it did not get posted. So email me if you want more info. Which ever way you decide to go...do not give up. It's so worth it.

That's another interesting idea!  I know it has potential problems attached to it, but it would be worth checking out!

 

One thing about links:  I'm pretty sure the website doesn't want hot links, but if you can post it so it's not an actual hyperlink, they let you do it.

 

For example, you could just say cnn.com.

 

 

 
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