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Topic : 05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

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Dr. Phil continues his work with The Dr. Phil Family, an out-of-control, angry group with a long history of infidelities, betrayals and bitter resentments. Melissa’s boyfriend, Randy, joins the family at The Dr. Phil House, but Gene and Myra are not happy to see him. They think that Randy is a liar and a thief, and the reason Melissa has gained about 100 pounds in the last five years. Gene and Myra attempt to talk to Melissa about her weight, but Melissa is anything but receptive. Then, because they often blame each other for the chaos in the family, Melissa and Gene are assigned to bury the hatchet long enough to cook a family dinner together, without help from anyone else. Will these relatives be able to follow the rules? After dinner, a family meeting turns heated with accusations and tearful confessions. Dr. Phil joins the family and confronts Melissa and Randy about their sometimes violent relationship and Melissa’s mismanagement of her health. Can this couple create a nurturing relationship for the sake of their autistic child? Will Melissa do what it takes to gain control over her weight? Share your thoughts here.



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May 28, 2007, 9:10 pm PDT

So many children with Autism

My sister has a son who is highly functioning autistic,  more like Aspergers'.  I know it was hard for her and her husband to raise him.  He is now 35 yrs old.  He lives in a group home now, and he does know how to take public transportation, so he can get to his job.

If Melissa was only 17 when he was born, most 17 year olds are pretty self absorbed, and resent not being able to be doing the "teen things".

In the last ten years, the incidence of babies being born with autism has spiked to where now one in 150 babies are diagnosed with it.  That is really an alarming statistic.  What is causing it?

I hope this family can work things out. 
 
 
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May 28, 2007, 9:20 pm PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

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Good afternoon. I am more concerned about the relationship of the daughter and her boyfriend. Towards the end of the show during the counseling Dr. Phil had with the family, I noticed the boyfriends and t older brother sat closer together and the boyfriend is hugging the brother instead of being with his girlfriend. Also when the boyfriend was crying which I believe is apart of his munipulation, the boyfriend began to console the brother. Is this something that's regular practice in today's families. If he is to try to make it wok with his girlfrend shouldn't he have been sitting with his girlfriend and consloing his girlfriend through the issues she was having? This is just a question.

 

 

And it is a good question ? That boyfriend just wierded me out!

 
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May 28, 2007, 10:05 pm PDT

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP wrong answer!

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Over the years in the medical profession I have noticed that  people who have special needs children often have underlying resentment  towards all the work that they require.  They don't smile a lot, some are angry at their loss of freedom.  I think we need to ask Melissa how she is REALLY doing with a special needs child.
 

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May 28, 2007, 10:15 pm PDT

This is for Melissa

Girl, I feel for you.  I have a nephew that is autistic and I applaud you for sticking in there 24/7.  I'm around this boy for 10 minutes and I'm ready to pull my hair out.  I realize that he can't help it, but it is very stressful.  Plus, I can fully understand how you felt when your family was attacking you about your weight.  I am 44 years old and have been having that same attitude aimed at me as long as I can remember.  There is one bit of advice that I can give you as a tortured "fattty".  That is that you really should figure out a way to get help now while you are young.  It is so much harder to get off the older you get.  As for your boyfriend, your mom is right on this one.  He hasn't changed in 5 years, he ain't changin'.  You are basically doing it alone now, why not get rid of the extra work that the boyfriend is creating.  That would be losing 150 or so pounds immediately!  Hang in there girl and find a support group to help you.  I know that there are plenty of them in Ohio.
 
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May 28, 2007, 10:23 pm PDT

picking on Melissa?

If they are so worried about her weight/health,  then why did they assign the task of cooking dinner with dad?  Why not a walk in the park?

 
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May 28, 2007, 10:38 pm PDT

Autism Mom Speaks

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I dont think ppl realize how much work we do in one day making sure they dont get out of the home...trying to find food they like n eat on a constant basis....How alone we actually do feel in the home 24/7...YOU try finding daycare for a austic child OR how many dr offices reject you when u call for an appt only to be told Sorry we dont accept autisic kids..
I truly feel for you Melissa.  I too am raising an autistic child.  I have four children two with special needs.  My husband and I almost divorced and I do come from a very dysfunctional background.   I will tell you this yes, our kids are hard work, very hard work.   But our rewards are much higher as well because we have to work harder.  I took a dive for a while and wasn't taking real good care of myself and then I realized.  I can't do this anymore.....If I don't take care of me my kids are royally screwed and that will be on me.  I take care of me now most of the time once in a while I slip.  However, I have to be around to teach my children to advocate for themselves (I live in Canada and the USA is about 25 years ahead of us on autism sad but true.)  I have to be around to teach them to ensure they become self sufficient adults.  I can't just be around I have to be a happy whole me in order for them to get the best of me.  You have to be a happy whole you in order for Ryan to be solid and stable as well.  If I don't live my life happy and stable how will they learn to be happy and stable.  They will live what they learn Good, bad or worse.  Autism numbers are on the rise and all we can do is learn, learn and advocate, advocate.  I don't know about in the USA  but in Canada it is an on going legal battle to make our kids count.  It is entirely up to you to make Ryan count if you value him, he will learn to value himself because you will ensure all those that work with him value him.  But first Melissa you must VALUE yourself.  I know your pain...truly I do...I have never asked myself Why me...because again why not?  I have shed many tears don't get me wrong but I educate myself and face new fears head on.  I do value myself and he learns from that.  I take joy in the small successes that I know one day lead to bigger successes.  My heart and thoughts are with...be careful who is around your child the character of that person.  Autistic kids copy what they see more than other children and if like mine are echolalic repeat words we would not chose for them to say.  "I am unique and a marvel" is the first sentence I taught my son to say....he remembers it and when I say to him what are you that is his reply.  You are unique and a marvel Melissa....Be the best YOU, you can be and you will see a change in you and Ryan...It begins with you.
 

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May 28, 2007, 11:10 pm PDT

re: melissa & her weight, healing prayers for all 1st & foremost

1st, i must say, thank God that we have you, Dr. phil, on this planet! Dr. phil, you are a God send! you have helped so many people, including me & MY farmily! my husband and i tape you & oprah back to back on a weekly basis! WOO HOO!

k, now, 'bout Melissa... i was once where she is now, i WAS 100 lbs overweight at 1 time in my life, but i had to go the 'gastric bypass route.'... at  1 point (4 years ago, November 13, 2007 will be 4 years since my GB surgery) my doc said to me, "if you don't have this surgery, you might NOT live to see 50!" i was having a LOT of health problems and i won't go into them 'cause it's too numerous to mention, but let me say, by God's Grace, they are ALL cleared up since losing the 100 lbs! WOO HOO AGAIN!!!! (LOL!) i'm NOW going on 49 come September and i'm a grandma! WOO HOO AGAIN! ok, 'nuff with 'the sillies'... i had some hard times in my life, 1 being that my son almost died from a staph infection at 11 days old. i am 5' 9 1/4" tall and at that point, i was a bit under 200 lbs. i'd always been skinny, VERRRRRRRY skinny my whole life. i wore a brace on my entire torso for scoliosis (curvature of the spine for those who dunno AND i had to have life saving surgery for it as well. my scoliosis was progressive and if i didn't have the surgery, my spine would have crushed my heart & lungs and i would have died, but, by God's Grace, i'm here, alive and in very good health! YAY! so, being in that 'contraption' (bruce the brace as i called it... LOL) and then a cast for 9 months, from my neck aaaaaalll the way down past my hips, to midway down my tushy. NINE MONTHS in that thing! a plaster cast like ones worn for broken limbs! i was NOT able to remove it to sleep, the brace yes, the cast no. so, i was quite uncomy when i had it removed 2 days prior to my 18th birthday. i had the surgery 2 months after turning 17. i'd worn the milwaukee brace from age 12 1/2 to age 17. as i look back on it now, i'm amazed at myself. i'd often used my sense of humor to get me thru all the hard times. you know, having to wear it in the 1st place, then, people staring 'cause they didn't understand that 'thing' on me! u can imagine. so, after being in the cast for 9 months prior to surgery, i FINALLY was FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! well, i felt TOTALLY naked without a brace or cast on me, i felt very vulnerable, so, what did i do? i 'protected myself' with fat. at that point in my life, i was 18, 5' 9 1/4" tall and 125 lbs (you'd turn me sideways and i'd disappear! LOL!!) i was a 'tomboy' my whole life so, all that running around and sports kept me thin no matter WHAT i ate OR HOW MUCH of it! but, things changed as i got out of my brace. i wasn't as active, and slowly but surely, i started to gain weight, not TOO much, but when i married my 1st husband, at age 20, i was between 125 & 130.. so, not TOO much weight gain there. then, we moved out of state (he was in the military and it was my 1st time moving away from home, at least we were on the same coast, the east coast, i'm from new 'yawk' (brooklyn) and we lived in norfolk, virginia. anyway, when we 1st moved there i knew NO one, just him. i'd made friends easy, no prob there but all my family & friends were back home in brooklyn! i'd even left my BICYCLE home! ugh, not fun... so, i got lazy... then i got pregnant! WOO HOO! so, i 'ate for 2!' no such thing ladies! WHEN you are pregnant, ONLY eat for ONE & eat healthy! so, i 'ballooned' up to 192 the day before my son was born. i was 145 when i 1st found out i was pregnant. so, i kept going up & up etc... it was all to 'protect myself'... THEN, my 1st husband, being in the navy, was away (and unable to get out of it) on a military cruise when our son was born. i had to have an emergency C-section (all due to my scoliosis surgery, my spine was fused with my pelvic bones, but i hadn't known that and i was unable to give birth vaginally, my son's heart rate was dropping etc... so, the C-section....) on top of THAT, i felt guilty 'cause i felt i SHOULD have known I'd have to have a C-section, (i'm Jewish, i am unable to help having guilt - lol) THEN on TOP of that, my son developed a staph infection that he almost died from at 11 days old, so, all the guilt heaped on top of all that i was already stressing about, made me eat even MORE! THEN, when my son was 2, my 1st husband 'came OUT' during our marriage! (i KNEW there was 'something' but i just could NOT 'put my finger on it' so to speak... so, what did i do? i ATE MORE!!!) so, by the time my son was 7, i was ALMOST 375 lbs! i won't go into all that occurred afterwards, but i KNOW i was eating because i felt 'guilty'... the things that were running thru my mind: was it something I did that caused him to turn gay? was i not a good enough wife (he'll tell you 'no' but he was very manipulative and he STILL is a 'bleep!' but i'm happily remarried since 2000, just to let you all know, to the love of my life! WOO HOO!) did I cause my son to have a staph infection? (he'd actually caught the germ from the hospital! i'd had a c-section (in jan '81) and in those days, they kept me there for 1 week, plus, he was slightly jaundiced too. so, by the time we'd gone home, he was 8 days old, i'd noticed he wasn't acting right! turns out it was that massive infection, too long to go into all of it, but he had a 50-50 chance of either being allergic to penicillin or not 'cause his dad isn't but i am.... ok, so, due to all the stress & guilt i was carrying around my whole life PLUS, being raised in a dysfunctional family! my dad died (he was misdiagnosed and if they'd given him a tracheotomy, God willing, he'd be 77 1/2 and alive today! they said he had 'acute laryngo tracheo bronchitis' which in 'English' is 'croup'... he did NOT have a cough which IS ALWAYS associated with 'croup' but he just could NOT breath... turns out, he had 'epiglottitis!' and the ONLY cure for THAT IS a tracheotomy! so, when he died at age 35 in '65 (my sis was 9 and i was 6 1/2) my mom became mentally & physically abusive, 'nuff said 'bout that. so, I'd had a VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY low self esteem my WHOLE LIFE and having to wear a brace on TOP of all that crap? ugh! did wonders for me, i'm telling ya! sarcastically speaking of course... well, the point I've been TRYING to make, after all my 'blabbling'... i was in 'super guilt mode' 'cause of EVERYTHING that i just ate and ate and ate etc.... i felt there was something i could have done to 'fix' my husband, but obviously i wasn't woman enough, turns out, i wasn't MAN enough! (LOL) and i was 'racking my brains' trying to figure out HOW did i do that to my son (the staph infection!) which obviously i didn't do. we'd gotten home when my son was 8 days old, and when he was 10 days old, i noticed he wasn't acting right... so, i took him to the emergency pediatrician at the hospital where he was born. he had a low grade fever at this point, but the doc there just dismissed my fears and said, he's fine, just give him 3 drops of this liquid Tylenol for babies. so, i 'pushed' my fears aside and i did what he said, well, that nite, but son did NOT sleep at ALL in his crib, ONLY in my arms, no matter HOW asleep he was (I'd lift his arm and let his arm drop and he'd be TOTALLY asleep!) as SOON as I'd put him in his crib, he'd SCREAM as if he was being hurt! so, all nite long, he was in my arms, in the rocking chair. that was the ONLY way he was able to sleep! that next morn when we woke, he had no definition of a chin, he whole THROAT was ALL SWOLLEN & RED! he was BURNING UP with fever! 103.8 to be exact! for a newborn to have THAT high a fever, u KNOW it's bad! so, we rushed to the hospital, then they finally admitted him after doing all that they could there, 'cause they had NO CLUE what it was.... so, i had MORE guilt heaped on me 'cause i did NOT listen to my 'gut' telling me to MAKE that pediatrician (the day before) listen to me! so, i ate even more! my son suffered his WHOLE LIFE with strep throat & tonsillitis! all because of the 1st staph infection that WERE in his tonsils! i had no clue! but all that time, since he was born, I'd been going from ENT (ear nose & throat doc) to have them look at his tonsils... not ONE DOCTOR would listen to me 'cause i was 'just a worried mother!' well, at that time in my life, i was on welfare (social services i think they are calling it now) and medicaid. so, all the docs I'd take my son to never listened to his whole life of strep & tonsillitis stories. I'd had ALL my son's medical records with me and circled (too many to count) all the 'strep' & 'tonsillitis' that he'd had! his 1st year of life, he'd only had strep 2 times, then, each year he got older, he'd have it more often... it got so bad, that when he was in 2nd grade, he'd been absent from school 56 times! each time making up all his homework and keeping up with the class.. he was always so intelligent!! (he's now 26 & married and thank GOD NO MORE strep & tonsillitis!) well, 1 day, my son got sick with his throat, yet again, it was strep, just strep...at this point in his life, he was getting strep sometimes with tonsillitis every month! no exaggeration! being that i could NOT get any medicaid doc to help (because i KNEW in my GUT that it was because of that staph infection in his tonsils that was hurting him and so we went to an OUT of the medicaid system ENT (my mom paid for this doc) and this is the very 1st doc who took the time to actually READ ALL my son's medical records and he listened to what I had to say too about it being from that staph infection! all the other doctors 'dismissed' that!! so, he looked at his tonsils and said, "his tonsils look perfect. i don't see any reason to remove them but let's wait and see" sure enough after being on the antibiotic for 3 days, my son 'blossomed' with tonsillitis so the doc agreed to take out his tonsils! (YAY!) IN the waiting room, he'd come to tell us that 'he is fine' but he said, "his tonsils were so necrotic that they were POISONING HIS SYSTEM! it was ALL from that STAPH infection that he almost died from!" so, all my years of feeling guilty and not being able to do ANYTHING to fix or change things, I'd eat... i KNOW Melissa is feeling guilty for her son being autistic because she probably thinks that something SHE did caused it! or something she DIDN'T do caused it! no matter WHAT caused it...she eats... and eats and eats. and eats and eats... i understand it all so well... Melissa, my heart goes out to you as do so many other folk's hearts in this world who know your story. i know it's hard. i was in a 'state of depression' all those years when my son was growing up! i also kept my house a mess too so my mom would NOT come over! it was all related to her being mentally & physically abusive my whole life too... listen, i can go on & on but i just needed to 'vent' i guess is the correct way to put it... i know i kinda put things out of order in a way but i'm going to assume that you who are reading this get the jist of all that i wrote...

thanks for 'listening'...

God bless & love to all,

healing prayers for everyone!

stasi (pronounced 'stacy' but MINE is spelled correctly! LOL)

 

 
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May 28, 2007, 11:30 pm PDT

settin the record str8

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I'm somewhat concerned that there is alot more to this story than we are seeing. I tend to see some other things going on with this family. I believe that Melissa's boyfriend has feelings for her brother...maybe I'm wrong. BUT for a family in 'turmoil', the two of them are very 'Cozy'. Maybe I'm way off, but if in fact there is something going on there...that would explain more of a reason for Melissa to be depressed. She has a special needs child, has become over weight, feels she has no support system, and a partner who is as false as anyone could be...

Dr. Phil...good luck with this group...there are some serious issues going on here. I hope the 'real' truth comes out.

att. everyone in DP land. this is edwin, melissa's brother. i've been browsing thru comments made by the general public and i've noticed that many have commented on how randy and i were cozy. well just to set the record str8.......we are both very str8. as a f'n arrow. i've known randy for about 6 1/2 yrs. the man is like my older bro. i love him to death and we've never had bad blood. he's been there for me thru alot of b.s. and i've always been a pretty affectionate person. i still hug my dad and tell him i love him for chrissakes. it's just the way i've always been. anyone who knows me can vouch for that. but to set the record str8 for everybody again......str8...not gay. if ya'll wanna comment feel free. i' m always willing to help tie looses ends and help people understand what has happened with my family. there are lots of things that have not even been touched on.
 

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May 28, 2007, 11:49 pm PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

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I love Dr. Phil but have never really had anything "click" with me until he said what he said to Melissa today.  When he said that she didn't have a right to not take care of herself... that really hit home with me.  I have 2 children (twins) a boy and a girl who are almost 3.  I have really let myself go.  I have been a stay at home mom now for a year.  I have approximately 150 pounds to lose and most days it seems impossible.  I am angry and ashamed with who I have become.  I want to be the best mother I can be and I know that being the size I am is not only bad for myself but bad for my kids. 

Dr. Phil, if you read these posts, I would love to see a show about more people like Melissa and moms that have fallen into a rut.  I would love to crawl out of this whole I am in but I don't know where to begin.  I understood what you said to Melissa and it was as if you were talking to me.  My question is, "Now What?"  How do I turn things around and be the person I used to be (spunky, vibrant, beautiful, motivated, excited about life...)?

 

 

I cried for an hour after today's show.  I have 2 adopted children who my husband and I adopted through foster care.  They have many emotional problems due to there past.  Since we adopted them I have gained 150 lbs.  I have had many family members talk to me the way that Melissa'a family talked to her.  But until I saw her (really me) on television today. I never reallly heard them.  But you are right, Dr. Phil, now what?  How do we start and where to we go from here?  
 
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May 29, 2007, 12:08 am PDT

Boyfriend gay?

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I'm somewhat concerned that there is alot more to this story than we are seeing.  I tend to see some other things going on with this family.  I believe that Melissa's boyfriend has feelings for her brother...maybe I'm wrong.  BUT for a family in "turmoil", the two of them are very "Cozy".  Maybe I'm way off, but if in fact there is something going on there...that would explain more of a reason for Melissa to be depressed.  She has a special needs child, has become over weight, feels she has no support system, and a partner who is as false as anyone could be...

 

Dr. Phil...good luck with this group...there are some serious issues going on here. I hope the "real" truth comes out.

 I was beginning to think that I was the only one who noticed.  I kept waiting for Dr. Phil to say something about the boyfriend and the brother snuggling on the coach.  I've never seen two straight men sit  like that, and for such a long time.  It was VERY weird.  The boyfriend's sobbing was weird too, and his little talk at the end.  My gaydar was screamin'! 

While I thought Melissa was a whiner, and lazy, and a very self centered mom, I gotta feel for her, having a partner who is gay isn't easy.  He may not have even admitted to himself, but that boy is gay.  I'd bet on it. 
 
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