Topic : 05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

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Dr. Phil continues his work with The Dr. Phil Family, an out-of-control, angry group with a long history of infidelities, betrayals and bitter resentments. Melissa’s boyfriend, Randy, joins the family at The Dr. Phil House, but Gene and Myra are not happy to see him. They think that Randy is a liar and a thief, and the reason Melissa has gained about 100 pounds in the last five years. Gene and Myra attempt to talk to Melissa about her weight, but Melissa is anything but receptive. Then, because they often blame each other for the chaos in the family, Melissa and Gene are assigned to bury the hatchet long enough to cook a family dinner together, without help from anyone else. Will these relatives be able to follow the rules? After dinner, a family meeting turns heated with accusations and tearful confessions. Dr. Phil joins the family and confronts Melissa and Randy about their sometimes violent relationship and Melissa’s mismanagement of her health. Can this couple create a nurturing relationship for the sake of their autistic child? Will Melissa do what it takes to gain control over her weight? Share your thoughts here.



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May 29, 2007, 8:18 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

Quote From: shelly_80

I couldn't believe my ears when Melissa said her life was ruined because all she had was her son.  If I had a son that was as precious as Ryan I would be the most thankful mother in the world because God chose me to take care of His "special" angel.  It's not like she didn't realiaze getting pregnant was a possibility if she chose to do what it took to get that way.  She made her bed now she pissed because she's having to lay in it.  Ryan did not choose to be born nor did he choose to have whatever disabilities he has.  Therefore, she needs to choose her words very carefully because it's not his fault that she made such a mess of her life.  The only things you get out of life are the things you choose to put in it. She needs to realize that the the very instant she chose to have sex and get pregnant it was no longer about her selfish desires; it became about the well-being of her son.  If she really does resent him that much, then she needs to do what's right for him and give him to a well-established family that will love him regardless.  I hope realized how truly blessed she is to have him. 

I couldn't believe my ears when Melissa said her life was ruined because all she had was her son.  If I had a son that was as precious as Ryan I would be the most thankful mother in the world because God chose me to take care of His "special" angel.

 

Let me just say I don't think she blames *Ryan* for "ruining her life." I think she blames his autism, and I can sure relate to that! She isn't the most educated and mature parent, so I think she fairly easily conveys thoughts in ways she doesn't intend to. In any case, I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt because she's  very likely seriously burned out from trying to do everything she needs to for her son. There were times, when my son was Ryan's age, that I actually thought about killing myself because I was so overwhelmed. Trust me: If you don't have an autistic child, you cannot possibly have a clue what she's dealing with. It isn't even like CP or Down Syndrome, so they can't be compared, either. Autism is mentally and physically exhausting, and unless/until the child can learn to communicate and behaviors can be dealt with effectively, there is little hope for parents ever being able to feel the love for their child that we have all so desperately wanted to. It honestly took me years, even though I didn't blame my son for his problems, and I am older and much better-educated than Melissa is.

 

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May 29, 2007, 8:34 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

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I am new member who just registered purely because of today's show. I am not annoyed just more concerned. I am professional in the field of psychology and I currently am working exclusively with children who have been diagnosed with autism. My minor wish is simply just to make it know that as a field we are trying to move away from the use of "autistic children" to "children with autism" because we do not believe that autism is who the child is as "autistic child" implies but that autism is just an unquie characteristic that the child has. I realize most people say it as "autistic child" but were are strongly encouraging society to move away from that term.

 

Thank-you! And to all the parents with children out there with autism I wish you all the best!!!

My minor wish is simply just to make it know that as a field we are trying to move away from the use of "autistic children" to "children with autism" because we do not believe that autism is who the child is as "autistic child" implies but that autism is just an unquie characteristic that the child has. I realize most people say it as "autistic child" but were are strongly encouraging society to move away from that term.

 

You should know I regularly encounter comments from "autistic" adults who *insist* that they are "autistic" and NOT "people who have autism." In fact, the majority have said that it *bothers* them to be referred to as "having" autism because they really believe it's who they are. That's why so many are vehemently opposed to the idea of fighting to cure it. I know; it was weird to me, too, but they have even said to me that if I truly accept my son, I will say he's "autistic."

 

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May 29, 2007, 9:00 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

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I couldn't believe my ears when Melissa said her life was ruined because all she had was her son.  If I had a son that was as precious as Ryan I would be the most thankful mother in the world because God chose me to take care of His "special" angel.

 

Let me just say I don't think she blames *Ryan* for "ruining her life." I think she blames his autism, and I can sure relate to that! She isn't the most educated and mature parent, so I think she fairly easily conveys thoughts in ways she doesn't intend to. In any case, I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt because she's  very likely seriously burned out from trying to do everything she needs to for her son. There were times, when my son was Ryan's age, that I actually thought about killing myself because I was so overwhelmed. Trust me: If you don't have an autistic child, you cannot possibly have a clue what she's dealing with. It isn't even like CP or Down Syndrome, so they can't be compared, either. Autism is mentally and physically exhausting, and unless/until the child can learn to communicate and behaviors can be dealt with effectively, there is little hope for parents ever being able to feel the love for their child that we have all so desperately wanted to. It honestly took me years, even though I didn't blame my son for his problems, and I am older and much better-educated than Melissa is.

 

LIZARD :)

I am actually very mature, being around my family gets me a little crazy however I have done my research. I know all about autism and ABA and other methods parents use to help their children on the spectrum. Vitamins, G/F C/F diet, Greenspan, inclusion classrooms, I am knowledgable about all of my options. At 19 I got my son diagnosed and in a great program without any help or prompting from anyone. He was in a one on one DTI classroom where he was making significant progress. Things were portrayed a certain way in the house but I am very aware of my son's diagnosis and the steps that have been taken in order to help him. I also don't resent my son's autism, I wish he was a typically developing child but his autism just means I have to try harder to reach him, not that I will ever stop trying.
 
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May 29, 2007, 9:06 am PDT

Oh my brother how I love you so...

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Edwin,

 

Sorry to have offended you...this was just a perception of what was broadcast on the show.  I am obviously not the only person who percieved you'll as "cozy".  Maybe YOU are affectionate in general, but Randy is the person in question here.  He seems to be a very confused and untruthful person.  You may want to be careful that your affection is not being misinterpreted by him.  The affection shown by him towards you was NOT normal.  This guy has some emotional turmoil going on inside of him, he's trying to find himself. 

 

Men showing affection is quite ok...my brother and father too-- hug and  tell one another they love each other.  My husband hugs and kisses his father and brother just the same...but what was shown on the Dr. Phil show, was not the norm.  Best wishes to you and your family. 

 

Remember, blood is thicker than water...Melissa needs you.  You should be there for her and your nephew.  Part of her problem is that she feels alone with raising her son.  Your friendship with Randy may be sending her mixed emotions as well.  As a mother of and "autistic" realm child, I too need my family most.  Our strongest support is those who love us unconditionally.  Please recognize this...and put your efforts toward showing your sister you are there for HER.

This is Melissa and I will say that my boyfriend is not gay. If he was I would accept it and we would work it through, there are much worse things to be than gay. My brother Ed and my boyfriend have an exceptionally close relationship, if the shoe was on the other foot my boyfriend would have comforted Ed in exactly the same way. They just happen to be really sensitive... this is actually possible without any kind of sexual innuendo going on. All of you need to get your mind out of the gutter because it was exactly what you saw, nothing more or less.
 
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May 29, 2007, 9:09 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

Quote From: janie2256

 I can't help wondering why everyone seemed to think it was perfectly normal for the boyfriend and Melissa's brother to be all snuggled up together on the couch for so long.  Adult men, who are straight, do not do that.  Period.  Why didn't Melissa's parents say something?  Do they think it's ok for their son to have a man's arm around him, pulling him right next to him,  for an hour?  Didn't Dr.Phil notice? 

Do you all think that Dr.Phil will ask about the boyfriend cuddling with the brother?  To me, the boyfriend is so obviously gay.  No wonder Melissa's depressed! 
That segment was edited to take up the hour, in reality it lasted about 15-20 minutes and they weren't "holding" each other the whole time. Geez, people get a life.
 
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May 29, 2007, 9:35 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

Quote From: cajunmiss2

Edwin,

 

Sorry to have offended you...this was just a perception of what was broadcast on the show.  I am obviously not the only person who percieved you'll as "cozy".  Maybe YOU are affectionate in general, but Randy is the person in question here.  He seems to be a very confused and untruthful person.  You may want to be careful that your affection is not being misinterpreted by him.  The affection shown by him towards you was NOT normal.  This guy has some emotional turmoil going on inside of him, he's trying to find himself. 

 

Men showing affection is quite ok...my brother and father too-- hug and  tell one another they love each other.  My husband hugs and kisses his father and brother just the same...but what was shown on the Dr. Phil show, was not the norm.  Best wishes to you and your family. 

 

Remember, blood is thicker than water...Melissa needs you.  You should be there for her and your nephew.  Part of her problem is that she feels alone with raising her son.  Your friendship with Randy may be sending her mixed emotions as well.  As a mother of and "autistic" realm child, I too need my family most.  Our strongest support is those who love us unconditionally.  Please recognize this...and put your efforts toward showing your sister you are there for HER.

Bravo on a great post - I agree, it is possible for straight men to be affectionate, but this looked different than that to me.  I'm not accusing either one of being gay nor would I have a single thing against them if either or both of them were.  Before I even saw Randy and Edwin sitting on the couch like that, I thought it possible that there might be a sexuality issue where Randy is concerned.  

 

I am actually more concerned, though, that Edwin and Randy can be so tight when Randy has been so awful to Melissa with his lying, manipulating and STEALING from her!  I don't get it.

 

 

 
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May 29, 2007, 9:50 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

Quote From: lizard110366

I couldn't believe my ears when Melissa said her life was ruined because all she had was her son.  If I had a son that was as precious as Ryan I would be the most thankful mother in the world because God chose me to take care of His "special" angel.

 

Let me just say I don't think she blames *Ryan* for "ruining her life." I think she blames his autism, and I can sure relate to that! She isn't the most educated and mature parent, so I think she fairly easily conveys thoughts in ways she doesn't intend to. In any case, I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt because she's  very likely seriously burned out from trying to do everything she needs to for her son. There were times, when my son was Ryan's age, that I actually thought about killing myself because I was so overwhelmed. Trust me: If you don't have an autistic child, you cannot possibly have a clue what she's dealing with. It isn't even like CP or Down Syndrome, so they can't be compared, either. Autism is mentally and physically exhausting, and unless/until the child can learn to communicate and behaviors can be dealt with effectively, there is little hope for parents ever being able to feel the love for their child that we have all so desperately wanted to. It honestly took me years, even though I didn't blame my son for his problems, and I am older and much better-educated than Melissa is.

 

LIZARD :)

This is Meliss and I am educated about my son's autism. I am mature but being around my family has a tendency to throw me off balance and act a certain way. I know all about the treatment options for him and have implemented many of them. I have read books on autism, peer reviewed articles on treatment options and have spoken to experts in the field. Believe that my son is well taken care of and his needs are being met in the best possible way.
 
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May 29, 2007, 9:51 am PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

Quote From: janie2256

 Is this you?  I have a question for you.  Why was your boyfriend cuddling with your brother all through the part of the show with Dr.Phil?  Does he do that often?  Have you considered that your bf is gay?  Everything about him screamed GAY to me, the way he was with your brother, the way he sat, the way he talked, and the sobbing.  He may not have admitted it yet, even to himself, but he sure seems gay.  If I were your parents, I would let him sit there snuggling with my son.  It's just not right.  imo Your parents need to wake up and smell the coffee! 
I already answered that question on an earlier post
 
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May 29, 2007, 10:31 am PDT

Gay is OK

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This is Melissa and I will say that my boyfriend is not gay. If he was I would accept it and we would work it through, there are much worse things to be than gay. My brother Ed and my boyfriend have an exceptionally close relationship, if the shoe was on the other foot my boyfriend would have comforted Ed in exactly the same way. They just happen to be really sensitive... this is actually possible without any kind of sexual innuendo going on. All of you need to get your mind out of the gutter because it was exactly what you saw, nothing more or less.

First of all, let me set the record straight...I have NO problems with anyone who is gay,  nor do I judge them. 

 

Melissa,

Believe it or not...I'm on your side.  Part of the problem with Randy is that YOU continually make excuses for him and quite easily seem to submit yourself to his issues.  What you've got to do is step up the the plate...YOU are the one who will make your son's life be the best it can be.  NOONE can care for him as you can.  You don't need anyone until you can help yourself.  You are a beautiful, articulate and intelligent young lady.  Give yourself credit where credit is due. 

 

Step back, evaluate, and free yourself of the burdens that hold you back from being the best possible mom you can be.

 

We are all pulling for you.  By bringing attention to the possibility of Randy being sexually confused, I was only showing you more reason why you should focus on yourself.  Regardless to any of Randy, your father, your mother or even brothers issues, the most important person here is YOU.  Simply because you have a life-long resposibility now.  You and your son deserve to be happy....let Dr. Phil guide you in helping yourself.  I believe your family wants to help you....admit your mistakes, admit your needs, and move forward.

 

Best wishes.....

 

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May 29, 2007, 12:30 pm PDT

05/28 A Dr. Phil Family on Fire: House Intervention, Part 3

Quote From: happimommy

I watch Dr. Phil  as often as I can. usually, I am the one going, "I can't believe these people!"  I have never really connected something he said to my life...until today. I guess this was my "A-ha"  moment as his friend Oprah says.

 

I am Melissa's size. They mentioned her weight amount and her clothing size too. I live in denial. I have a son. He is 5 months old. When Dr. Phil said 'You have no right  to. . . " and he talked about her excuses: that was ME. I mean, melissa and I are day and night when it comes to happiness and relationships, but I actually knew that Dr. Phil would say those things to me about my weight.

 

When he said  that she was responsible for her weight and at her funeral she should tell her son she could have changed it but didn't........I lifted from my chair in a state of panic! I went to my son's crib where he was taking a nap and started balling like a baby!

 

By being overweight, I miss so much already! I can't even swing in  a park with my nephews because they swing doesn't fit me and roller coasters, swimming pools, airplanes, parties, movie theatres are all places I avoid on purpose because I don't like being reminded of my weight! What am I going to miss out when my son gets older? Or will I even be here?? NO WAY am I going to miss another thing!

 

I do love my son. And, I have to take care of his mother.

 

Thank you Dr. Phil. You finally got me.  Mark me on your reaction belt!

 

No more excuses. I promise.

 

 

I have to say, first, I missed the show yesterday. I'm not a big fan of the "Dr. Phil House" episodes. I do read up on them at times out of curiosity.

 

Your post struck me, though.

 

As the write-ups on the "House" episodes leave much to be desired, I do not know what Dr. Phil said to her (Melisa) Regarding her weight. But your words about your's touched me.

 

I am not as large as she appears but certainly could lose a few inches & more than a few pounds. I walk regularly (approx. 6 to 9 miles a week) and do get out of the house. I am a SAHM & volunteered at my younger son's school when needed. I am also in therapy.

 

What I learn, in part, was my over eating is my chosen form of "Self-harm". Some people cut, some over exercise or starve them selves. Some use drugs and/or alcohol. I eat. It's a long standing "tradition" in my family, as well. We eat... sad, mad, happy or bored. We eat!

 

But you are so right in the point that we're not just doing this to ourselves, but rather our children.

 

I believe in personal responsibility. I take full responsibility for my choosing to over eat now that I am fully aware of it being such an awful habit for so many reasons. But to put it that way... I have heard it before & it has touched me then, too.

 

I guess what I am saying, so long-windedly, is thank you. Thank you for reminding me that I need to continue to walk & get exercise.

 

Thank you,

Heather

 

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