Quote From: sunshine80I am starting to hear all of these stories of angry bipolar children! Bipolars usually self-harm. Maybe there is a personality disorder at work. A personality disorder must have therapy to be effectively treated. Perhaps the ADHD meds are causing the rages and hurtful behavior. As far as the rewards, I don't know how it is for this poor girl, but after I have an episode I am so spent that I can hardly move, and I am 26. Making the bed is like running a triathlon! Also they are not spells. The clinical term is episode.
Shirlee should take her daughter right back to the hospital. Bipolar (ADHD or other mental illness) is just like any other illness, if you went in for treatment for diabetes and came out sicker than ever, you would go right back to the hospital.
I do not condone Tory's behavior, but you do have to feel for her. To live with these moods at 12 years old is a living hell. I know, I have lived it. To be that angry, she must be in an awful lot of pain. Tory needs a support group. She needs to know that she is not the only one like herself. She needs to talk to people who can understand what she is going through, and that she can trust to tell them what is going on. For all they know, she may be hearing voices, and they tell her to do the violent things! Tory is not a bad child. People want her to fall in line, but when you are sick, you just can't. Picture this, you are swimming in a beautiful lake full of all sorts of graceful swimmers, but you can't swim. You are too far from shore, and you can't reach the bottom. You are drowning. The other swimmers scream at you and punish you for not swimming like they do. They do not help, you panic. You are drowning and they are all watching. No one helps. Wouldn't that be a horrible feeling? This is how Tory and other bipolar children live every day. Drowning. Bipolar is an awful disease, and it erases every particle of self esteem that you can muster. 2.2 million diagnosed cases of bipolar in the U.S. alone. If you thought this statistic was shocking check this one out. AT LEAST 20% OF PATIENTS WITH BIPOLAR ILLNESS DIE FROM IT. That is the stat that they can prove. Mania could cause you to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or you could be manic and wreck your car. The figure is far higher. I hope, for everyone's sake, that Tory does not join the ranks of the 20%. Just keep trying with the help, and be supportive of this family. It is very frustrating to be in their situation. Most people don't understand this, and think that if "they just get her straightened out she would be fine." Not true. Tell a diabetic if they would just straighten out they would be fine! Do not be afraid to read on the subject, knowledge is power with this type of treatment. This is a good place, too, to get info and support. Maybe your friend might like to log on, too.
It is very, very kind of you to be concerned for your friend and her daughter!!!
Best Wishes and Good Luck!
Sunshine
Hello. Thank you so much for your input. As I said, I do not have a child with this disorder, and I do not see Tory all the time! This family has very little money. The father is unable to work due to injuries and receives very little comp for it, and the mom never worked at all prior to the injury and her experience is minimal. She is really trying hard and has a decent job, but, it is difficult financially. I let Shirlee know what you said about taking Tory back to the hospital - but she said that the hospital told her "if she has another "episode", then let them know, but that they had kept her the maximum number of days one person could stay for the same situation!! I couldn't believe it. And, Shirlee said that she does not have the money to go to a professional! They have insurance (which will expire in about a month) through her husbands job, but the dedutible for mental health issues is $500!!!! They do not have that. The state will not help her financially unless they sign over custody to the state and then pay the state child support!! I am very confused about all this and I know there has to be some help out there for Tory - that's what she needs and what the family needs! Help! Do you have any suggestion? Thanks again - we appreciate the input