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August 1, 2006, 9:04 am PDT

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To find meds that will help you stabilize. Perhaps neurotonin is not the med for you. You can ask to try different meds. There may be others out there that will stabilize you  better and help you to deal better with daily life. Depression is not normal; you need to try for stability; middle ground between mania and depression. And cut out the street drugs!
the more i think about yes. the madder i get at my self and i know i was clean for almost a yr and I WILL be that way again you should never say never i've heard but i think i never will do that again feel soooooooooooooooo bad to day and will talk to the doc about other meds just wish i wasn't so depressed oh well crying again i will go for now
 
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August 1, 2006, 9:56 am PDT

Please!!!!

I first have to start off by saying I'm glad I got to see the show today ( missed it the first time it aired). I do how ever have mixed feeling about the show.....I feel Dr Phil was very compassionate towards the guest and being honest with them, my fear is that with just talking to guest who were "out of control" and struggling to get through a normal day could send out the wrong signal to those viewers who haven't had to deal with the disorder. My son was diagnosed with Bipolar at the age of 6 and trust me through the last 6 yrs we have had our "out of control" days (more so then not yet ) ,hospitalizations, countless doctor appt.,meds changes,daily calls from the school ( he's out of control again) ,having to pull over to the side of the road because his raging has become life threatening to everyone in the car,the countless tears( both him and I) and cant forget everyone telling"you need to do this, I would never let my child talk to me that way". Yes this disorder is scary!!!  But what I worry about from the show today is that it didnt really give much hope. My son came down and started watching it and turned to me and said" it's not going to get better when I get older is it?" I dont want my son or anyone to think of this disorder as a "life sentence" and give up hope. My son and all those who have the disorder and those who care for them have a very rough road ahead of them yet I cant give up hope one day things will not so much became normal but atleast stable enough to where he can live a happy life !

Dr Phill it would be great if you could a show with this disorder and children!!! This disorder doesnt only effect the person who has it, it also affects those who love them. That a whole another story and show there.

to everyone dont give up hope.

 
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August 1, 2006, 12:06 pm PDT

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ok i know i have already asked but i am trying to get a few more so pleeeeease guys send them in i

 

Dear Dr. Phil,

 

You have a wonderful forum to reach out and educate people.  Your knowledge and compassion has indeed helped many.  Bravo for your good work.  The message boards that have been created on your web site have also touched many people.   In fact I am one of several that suffer from bipolar disorder and have found comfort and support through the bipolar board.  The intent of this letter is to share our stories and to encourage you once again to produce as show on bipolar.  One of the many common threads that you will read is the fact that it’s difficult to deal with the disorder when so many people simply don’t understand.  Please help us to share the message of hope to all that struggle.  Here are some of our stories:

 

 

 

it can be anything from a few lines to a page and anything in between

your name and address or just a sign in name or nothing at all its your choice

 

 please the more the better

 

and to all those who already have thankyou!!!!!!

Hi my name is Carey,

 

    Last August, I started my Senior year in High School.  I developed an attraction to a boy whom I had known the previous year.  He was a very sweet, loving boy who was always a pleasure to be around and have fun with.  My parents didn't agree to my attraction to him because he's a year younger than me, but I went forward with my feelings and started dating him a few weeks after school started.  Things were going fine at first; we were both very happy.  But about a month into our relationship, I began noticing my boyfriend's strange mood changes.  He came to school one day with cuts all over his arms and wrists.  When I asked him what had happened, he calmly informed me that he had tried to kill himself because of an argument he had with his parents.  This shocked me.  I knew then that I should try to get out of the relationship, but when I did he threatened suicide....so I was trapped.  Things got worse from then on. 

 

As our relationship matured, so did his violence and verbal abuse to me.  We would be walking down the halls of our school, and he would throw himself against the lockers or punch them if I said something he didn't like.  He would get EXTREMELY jealous if he saw me talking to another guy.  After school one day, during cross-country practice, my boyfriend pulled his car over on the sidewalk and started screaming at me, calling me a 'bitch' and a 'whore' because I had talked to one of my guy-friends.  There was one incident where I hugged a guy whom I had known for years and hadn't seen in awhile, and my boyfriend completely freaked out.  He refused to go to class and followed me into the art-room, where my next class was.  He found a pair of scissors and sliced his wrists, infront of all my friends, and drank his own blood.  The school police officer took him to the office and he was suspended for a few days.

 

During this time, I noticed how strange our conversations were becoming.  He would frequently express how handsome and wonderful he was; how much stronger and better he was than everybody else, and sometimes even make sexists remarks.  He did a LOT of weight-lifting, feeling as if he needed to be bigger and better than anybody around him. A few minutes later he would drastically change a say how worthless he was and how he didn't want to live anymore....and would start crying and beg me not to leave him.  This pattern of conversation became the norm.  I only made things worse, because I would backlash at his comments.  Sometimes he called me terrible names in his manic state, to the point where I would start crying.  My tears usually triggered his depressive state.  At times, he told me that he felt Satan's presence and seemed extremely frightened.  He also expressed worries of demons or nightmares he'd have concerning the devil. Feeling 'presences' is a symptom of bi-polar disorder.  Also, I think  a trigger for his 'episodes' was alcohol consumption.  He would drink to a state of extreme drunkeness every weekend, if not every night. 

 

Eventually he was expelled from school because he had grabbed my hair and pushed me into a wall.  All of this was because I was talking to my best friend, who happens to be a guy.  It  was around this time that he finally told me he was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder...I think phase II.  His mom also suffers from the disorder.

 

My boyfriend made a suicide attempt after I went to a party he forbade me to go to.  I was furious with him because he had called the cops and broke up the party, which was at a college.  He got my friends into a lot of trouble, not to mention myself.  I told him to 'stay out of my life' and that I 'hated him' and 'wished I'd never met him'.  After I told him these things, he overdosed on any drugs he found at his house.  His parents found him passed out on the bathroom floor.  His dad rushed him to the hospital to try to save his life.  His mom contacted me through IM and told me what had happened.  I called her to verify his situation.  I cannot describe to you how distrought I was.  I ran crying to my mom and dad, who knew little about our relationship.  They promised me that they would call all the hospitals around the area to find out how he was doing.  The following day at school, I was a zombie.  I didn't know if he was alive or dead.  I didn't sleep the night before; I hadn't eaten.  I constantly cried.  I felt like it was all my fault this had happened to him.  Not to mention, his mom had blamed this incident on me and vowed never to forgive me if he died.  Luckily, he returned home that day; the doctors were finally able to pump the medicines out of his body.  He was at one point declared legally dead, but they were able to rescitate him. 

 

Needless to say, I was in constant fear of him.  I wanted out of the relationship so badly, but I feared it because I knew he would threaten suicide.  I struggled under the weight of all the stress he had given me.  I began cutting myself; ripping out my hair; not eating or sleeping; basically I had went into an extreme depression.  I lost my job as a car-hop. All of my friends left me.  At one point I tried to run away from home.  I had made up my mind that if I didn't get away from all this, I would kill myself.  My parents finally sent me to a threapist, and by going to the sessions I was able to get help.  I had a new self-esteem; it gave me courage to stand up to my boyfriend.  I learned that whatever he did, it was not my fault, and he had no right to blame it on me.  He sensed that I was slipping away from him.  He quit drinking and smoking; he promised me that he would change.  Despite his efforts, he couldn't change.  His disorder did not allow him to.  However, he refused to take his medicine or try to seek help for it.  He tried to change on his own and he failed.

 

I really do wish to continue our relationship, but I know that it is not possible.  I wish with all my heart that he could turn back into the sweet, loving boy he used to be, but there is no way that will happen.  I feel as if my presence is triggering his episodes and making his disorder worse.  I think it's best if we seperated.  He however does not feel the same way.  He thinks that I am actually helping him deal with his disorder.  Honestly, I don't know HOW to deal with his disorder.  I'm starting college soon, and I can't deal with the stress of both him and college life.  Plus, my parents are absolutely against our relationship.  This is devestating for me, because I still care very much about him, but I know I must end it.  The only problem is, how do I end our relationship without him killing himself?  Or is there anyway that we could work through these problems and have a happy, healthy relationship?  Please, if anybody could, give me a little hope. 

 

 

 
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August 1, 2006, 12:19 pm PDT

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Hi my name is Carey,

 

    Last August, I started my Senior year in High School.  I developed an attraction to a boy whom I had known the previous year.  He was a very sweet, loving boy who was always a pleasure to be around and have fun with.  My parents didn't agree to my attraction to him because he's a year younger than me, but I went forward with my feelings and started dating him a few weeks after school started.  Things were going fine at first; we were both very happy.  But about a month into our relationship, I began noticing my boyfriend's strange mood changes.  He came to school one day with cuts all over his arms and wrists.  When I asked him what had happened, he calmly informed me that he had tried to kill himself because of an argument he had with his parents.  This shocked me.  I knew then that I should try to get out of the relationship, but when I did he threatened suicide....so I was trapped.  Things got worse from then on. 

 

As our relationship matured, so did his violence and verbal abuse to me.  We would be walking down the halls of our school, and he would throw himself against the lockers or punch them if I said something he didn't like.  He would get EXTREMELY jealous if he saw me talking to another guy.  After school one day, during cross-country practice, my boyfriend pulled his car over on the sidewalk and started screaming at me, calling me a 'bitch' and a 'whore' because I had talked to one of my guy-friends.  There was one incident where I hugged a guy whom I had known for years and hadn't seen in awhile, and my boyfriend completely freaked out.  He refused to go to class and followed me into the art-room, where my next class was.  He found a pair of scissors and sliced his wrists, infront of all my friends, and drank his own blood.  The school police officer took him to the office and he was suspended for a few days.

 

During this time, I noticed how strange our conversations were becoming.  He would frequently express how handsome and wonderful he was; how much stronger and better he was than everybody else, and sometimes even make sexists remarks.  He did a LOT of weight-lifting, feeling as if he needed to be bigger and better than anybody around him. A few minutes later he would drastically change a say how worthless he was and how he didn't want to live anymore....and would start crying and beg me not to leave him.  This pattern of conversation became the norm.  I only made things worse, because I would backlash at his comments.  Sometimes he called me terrible names in his manic state, to the point where I would start crying.  My tears usually triggered his depressive state.  At times, he told me that he felt Satan's presence and seemed extremely frightened.  He also expressed worries of demons or nightmares he'd have concerning the devil. Feeling 'presences' is a symptom of bi-polar disorder.  Also, I think  a trigger for his 'episodes' was alcohol consumption.  He would drink to a state of extreme drunkeness every weekend, if not every night. 

 

Eventually he was expelled from school because he had grabbed my hair and pushed me into a wall.  All of this was because I was talking to my best friend, who happens to be a guy.  It  was around this time that he finally told me he was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder...I think phase II.  His mom also suffers from the disorder.

 

My boyfriend made a suicide attempt after I went to a party he forbade me to go to.  I was furious with him because he had called the cops and broke up the party, which was at a college.  He got my friends into a lot of trouble, not to mention myself.  I told him to 'stay out of my life' and that I 'hated him' and 'wished I'd never met him'.  After I told him these things, he overdosed on any drugs he found at his house.  His parents found him passed out on the bathroom floor.  His dad rushed him to the hospital to try to save his life.  His mom contacted me through IM and told me what had happened.  I called her to verify his situation.  I cannot describe to you how distrought I was.  I ran crying to my mom and dad, who knew little about our relationship.  They promised me that they would call all the hospitals around the area to find out how he was doing.  The following day at school, I was a zombie.  I didn't know if he was alive or dead.  I didn't sleep the night before; I hadn't eaten.  I constantly cried.  I felt like it was all my fault this had happened to him.  Not to mention, his mom had blamed this incident on me and vowed never to forgive me if he died.  Luckily, he returned home that day; the doctors were finally able to pump the medicines out of his body.  He was at one point declared legally dead, but they were able to rescitate him. 

 

Needless to say, I was in constant fear of him.  I wanted out of the relationship so badly, but I feared it because I knew he would threaten suicide.  I struggled under the weight of all the stress he had given me.  I began cutting myself; ripping out my hair; not eating or sleeping; basically I had went into an extreme depression.  I lost my job as a car-hop. All of my friends left me.  At one point I tried to run away from home.  I had made up my mind that if I didn't get away from all this, I would kill myself.  My parents finally sent me to a threapist, and by going to the sessions I was able to get help.  I had a new self-esteem; it gave me courage to stand up to my boyfriend.  I learned that whatever he did, it was not my fault, and he had no right to blame it on me.  He sensed that I was slipping away from him.  He quit drinking and smoking; he promised me that he would change.  Despite his efforts, he couldn't change.  His disorder did not allow him to.  However, he refused to take his medicine or try to seek help for it.  He tried to change on his own and he failed.

 

I really do wish to continue our relationship, but I know that it is not possible.  I wish with all my heart that he could turn back into the sweet, loving boy he used to be, but there is no way that will happen.  I feel as if my presence is triggering his episodes and making his disorder worse.  I think it's best if we seperated.  He however does not feel the same way.  He thinks that I am actually helping him deal with his disorder.  Honestly, I don't know HOW to deal with his disorder.  I'm starting college soon, and I can't deal with the stress of both him and college life.  Plus, my parents are absolutely against our relationship.  This is devestating for me, because I still care very much about him, but I know I must end it.  The only problem is, how do I end our relationship without him killing himself?  Or is there anyway that we could work through these problems and have a happy, healthy relationship?  Please, if anybody could, give me a little hope. 

 

 

that therapy had allowed you to see that you are not responsible for his actions. You aren't. You can't sacrifice your life because he threatens suicide. That is a hostage sitation and you don't have to put up with it. What he does is his choice. What you do is your choice. You don't determine what he does.

 

Also, a reasonable relationship is not possible if he does not address his illness, go to a doctor and take meds for it. Bipolar disorder does not go away, it is an illness that is lifelong. You are not  ever cured; you must control it with medication. If he is not willing to do this, he will never be better and you will not be able to live with him.

 

You need to go on with your life and let him live his. Do not remain hostage to his threats. If he cannot take care of himself, then certainly you cannot take care of him.

 
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August 1, 2006, 12:30 pm PDT

Bipolar

I have a friend at my school who is going through a lot of stuff right now. She thinks she has developed Depression,Bipoloar and she has Adhd/Add. So yeah she knows for sure she had Adhd/Add. But I don't think she has gone to the doctor bout the Bipolar and Depression yet. Anyway but yeah I think everyone can be Bipolar at times. I know sometimes I feel happy 1 minute and I can be in a bad mood the next for no reason!!! So yeah anyway well yeah I just thought I would post this!!!
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:16 pm PDT

Need help

My son is probably bipolar but has refused to take his medication. He has moved away from home in Missouri. The last contact I have had with him was the week of July 10th, he was living in Las Vegas. He is 27 years old and I don't know what to do. He has a cell phone and I keep leaving messages but there is not answer. Can someone tell me what to do?
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

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My son is probably bipolar but has refused to take his medication. He has moved away from home in Missouri. The last contact I have had with him was the week of July 10th, he was living in Las Vegas. He is 27 years old and I don't know what to do. He has a cell phone and I keep leaving messages but there is not answer. Can someone tell me what to do?

But there isn't a whole lot you can do. He is an adult who has refused to take his medication. Unless he is a danger to himself or others (in which case he can be committed to a mental hospital) there is nothing you or anyone else can do except to try to encourage him to take his medication.

 

If he is refusing to contact you I don't see that you have very many options. You could hire a private detective to find him and check on him, but, again, you can't force him to do anything unless he is in danger or is dangerous to someone else. You can just hope.

 
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August 1, 2006, 2:31 pm PDT

NO insurance=NO care

A single friend who has no health care suffers mental illness. Starting around easter 2006, she started having dark periods, locking herself away in her home. She got worse resulting in an arrest for injuring her sister. She continued to worsen, the Dr.s were of very little help...NO insurance=No care, her actions have resulted in her financal ruin, loss of friends and support (people can only take so much, she can be very threating) Her physical health has been comprimised both by bad nutrution as well as a second suicide attempt, she has now been committed. This woman has never been fully diagnosed and her drug and therapy treatment is not even close to meeting her needs. Why in the United States is this happening, the government and health care providers and insurance companies should be ashamed of themselves.

 
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August 1, 2006, 2:36 pm PDT

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But there isn't a whole lot you can do. He is an adult who has refused to take his medication. Unless he is a danger to himself or others (in which case he can be committed to a mental hospital) there is nothing you or anyone else can do except to try to encourage him to take his medication.

 

If he is refusing to contact you I don't see that you have very many options. You could hire a private detective to find him and check on him, but, again, you can't force him to do anything unless he is in danger or is dangerous to someone else. You can just hope.

Thanks for the reply, hopefully he will contact me.
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:40 pm PDT

You're asking me?

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A single friend who has no health care suffers mental illness. Starting around easter 2006, she started having dark periods, locking herself away in her home. She got worse resulting in an arrest for injuring her sister. She continued to worsen, the Dr.s were of very little help...NO insurance=No care, her actions have resulted in her financal ruin, loss of friends and support (people can only take so much, she can be very threating) Her physical health has been comprimised both by bad nutrution as well as a second suicide attempt, she has now been committed. This woman has never been fully diagnosed and her drug and therapy treatment is not even close to meeting her needs. Why in the United States is this happening, the government and health care providers and insurance companies should be ashamed of themselves.

A person who spent years trying to get treatment because I didn't have insurance? The only thing we have is a system of community mental health centers and county hospitals, many of which do not meet the needs of patients. But they are all we have, and we have to do the best we can with what we have. It took me five years, but I finally found the right meds and the right treatment through persistance and forcing the system to accomodate me.

 

That's what anyone who has a mental disorder and no insurance has to do. Just keep kicking at the door until they get tired of ignoring you. It works.

 

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