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July 25, 2008, 5:54 pm PDT

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If you feel like doing some reading, go to www.nami.org  There is a wealth of information there.  You could also enter "bipolar disorder" into your search engine.  Reading about it will help you learn more about it.  Were you diagnosed recently with bipolar disorder, or is it something you suspect?  Only a qualified psychiatrist can diagnose it, and it takes time for a proper diagnosis...bipolar is not easy to diagnose, nor is any other mental illness...it takes time to see the patterns.  If you feel outside of the normal realm as far as your moods go, it might be helpful for you to keep a "mood diary", where you use a day planner to write about your moods throughout the day, week, and month...this would be a good tool for the psychiatrist to see...you don't have to be wordy about it...one or two key words will do...just enough to remind you...

 

I hope this helps...Becky

thank you. I have not been diagnosed. a talk to a therapist when I was in high school and she said I might be depressed but she wanted to talk to me some more and I got scared and never went back.

I suspected bipolar because I feel incredibly depressed but people say I am euphoric. they describe me as one of the happiest well adjusted people they know. on the inside nothing can be furtherfrom the truth.

as well some times I get a little more depressed than others and it lasts a few weeks then I am left with my normal depression. the normal depression is the one I am stuck with which is the one that poeple say I am well adjusted and euphoric. 

 

I am inder a lot of stress right now so I think that could be why I am feeling worse but it is starting to be unbearable and if I have a illness I am ready for a little help. and if I dont have an illness I am still ready for a little help.

 
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July 25, 2008, 6:54 pm PDT

Hello again.

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I dont know how to find a free clinic. where woluld I go to find one. or some one to talk to.

 

I suppose the worst part is not having anyone to talk to. I had a friend who was as depressed as I was and she said talking to me helped her. she said she was suicidal and that now she does not feel that way anymore. this is months of crying on my shoulder and spending lots of time together. so after a while she asked me if I liked her as more than a friend and I confessed and she said sorry because i dont right now.

I guessed this is what made it worse. I have always been a sad lonely person but I saw it in her and felt so bad but now she is happier and I am worse. so i just lost my best friend and I dont have that many to start with. after a life time of spending most of my free time with myself. we knew each other for two years and now we dont talk as much as we used to.

 

I onced talk to a therapist in high school and she said that I may be depressed and that we would talk about it more when I came back but I never went back. I think I was scared to. but I am worse now. I feel as if there is not much I could do about it though.

 

so a free clinic would be nice but I have no idea what to do. and very little transportation. How can I find a free clinic would they let me know at a normal clinic is there a phone number I could call.

 

thank you so much for taking an interest. please help me some more

To find a clinic check the yellow pages in the phone book.  In my area they are all listed under counseling.  In my area, the free clinic is called community mental health.  I bet if you did start calling some places they could direct you to a free clinic or one that has a small fee.

 

Do you have the support of parents or family that could help you?

 

I encourage you to find a therapist.  It was amazing for myself how much better I felt after a few sessions.  I was referred to a psychiatrist where I was prescribed medication.  After finding the right med combo, my moods are now stable for the most part.  I struggled for many years before I got help.  I wish I would have reached out a lot sooner.

 

Sorry to hear about your friend.  It can be draining to be the shoulder for someone to lean on.  It sounds like it took a lot out of you.  I hope you can rebuild your friendship.

 

Keep posting.  This board was my lifeline when I was falling apart.  It helps to know that we are not alone.

 

 
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July 26, 2008, 4:29 am PDT

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To find a clinic check the yellow pages in the phone book.  In my area they are all listed under counseling.  In my area, the free clinic is called community mental health.  I bet if you did start calling some places they could direct you to a free clinic or one that has a small fee.

 

Do you have the support of parents or family that could help you?

 

I encourage you to find a therapist.  It was amazing for myself how much better I felt after a few sessions.  I was referred to a psychiatrist where I was prescribed medication.  After finding the right med combo, my moods are now stable for the most part.  I struggled for many years before I got help.  I wish I would have reached out a lot sooner.

 

Sorry to hear about your friend.  It can be draining to be the shoulder for someone to lean on.  It sounds like it took a lot out of you.  I hope you can rebuild your friendship.

 

Keep posting.  This board was my lifeline when I was falling apart.  It helps to know that we are not alone.

 

thank you I will look in the phone book. for a free clinic. for some counseling. most of my family has kind of excommunicated my mother in a since so I got it right along with her. she is nice at times but she is not the hold your hand kind of mommy so I dont talk to her about my feelings. my freind was the only one. I suppose I should have more friends.

 

I did cry for about twenty minutes last night. thinking I could not talk to her again. since things might get awkward between us. 

 

I will get started on looking for some therapy. I guess I knew I needed some for years and years. ever since I was really young I thnk I could benefitid from a therapist. but now things just feel over whelming

I am getting worse and worse so I think I should do something about it.

 
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July 28, 2008, 6:33 pm PDT

Hello

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thank you I will look in the phone book. for a free clinic. for some counseling. most of my family has kind of excommunicated my mother in a since so I got it right along with her. she is nice at times but she is not the hold your hand kind of mommy so I dont talk to her about my feelings. my freind was the only one. I suppose I should have more friends.

 

I did cry for about twenty minutes last night. thinking I could not talk to her again. since things might get awkward between us. 

 

I will get started on looking for some therapy. I guess I knew I needed some for years and years. ever since I was really young I thnk I could benefitid from a therapist. but now things just feel over whelming

I am getting worse and worse so I think I should do something about it.

Realizing that you need help is indeed the first step.  Next step:  schedule an appointment with a therapist.  I remember how scared I was the first time I saw a therapist.  It all was a little too overwhelming but I'm sure glad I took that step.

 

I hope the best for you.  Oh...and talk to your friend.  She might miss you as much as you miss her.  :)

 

Take Care!

 
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July 29, 2008, 6:40 am PDT

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Realizing that you need help is indeed the first step.  Next step:  schedule an appointment with a therapist.  I remember how scared I was the first time I saw a therapist.  It all was a little too overwhelming but I'm sure glad I took that step.

 

I hope the best for you.  Oh...and talk to your friend.  She might miss you as much as you miss her.  :)

 

Take Care!

 Bipolar Disorder is a very hard to diagnosis.  It took several hospitalizations for my daughter to be diagnosised correctly.  She was schizophrinic; depressed; you name it.  She was on so many medications it was medications it was crazy.  This  all began when she was 13.  Finally we got an awesome Dr. that had worked with kids in Queens, in NYC that named her proper diagnosis.
All I know, is my poor daughter was going thru h*** in the mean time!!  She was hearing voices; seeing people outside our upstairs apartment windows; she was having a horrible time!!
Bipolar illness runs in our family, and it is one of the hardest illnesses to deal with!  I am Bipolar II, and my daughter is Bipolar 1; which Bipolar 1 is the worst of the 2.  My daughter is 24, and still she will try to go off her meds, she wants to be normal-not popping pills all the time, and when she does that, trust me, she crashes and burns!!!!  She trys to "self-medicate" with alcohol and any thing else she can get her hands on!  I have never gone off my medication, I am afraid too, they keep me normal for the most part, and I need to stay that way.  Meds or not, you still go thru manic episodes, but not nearly as bad as you do without your meds!!!!
I'm just trying to help you, if you are put on meds; please take them-and do not be ashamed to go to the Dr., have you heard or read the stats on how many people need to go to counseling and Dr.s-trust me, nobody has anything to be ashamed to go to go.  It's worse to need to go and not go!!!
Take care, and God Bless to you all!!!!
 
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July 29, 2008, 7:45 am PDT

I second that!!

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 Bipolar Disorder is a very hard to diagnosis.  It took several hospitalizations for my daughter to be diagnosised correctly.  She was schizophrinic; depressed; you name it.  She was on so many medications it was medications it was crazy.  This  all began when she was 13.  Finally we got an awesome Dr. that had worked with kids in Queens, in NYC that named her proper diagnosis.
All I know, is my poor daughter was going thru h*** in the mean time!!  She was hearing voices; seeing people outside our upstairs apartment windows; she was having a horrible time!!
Bipolar illness runs in our family, and it is one of the hardest illnesses to deal with!  I am Bipolar II, and my daughter is Bipolar 1; which Bipolar 1 is the worst of the 2.  My daughter is 24, and still she will try to go off her meds, she wants to be normal-not popping pills all the time, and when she does that, trust me, she crashes and burns!!!!  She trys to "self-medicate" with alcohol and any thing else she can get her hands on!  I have never gone off my medication, I am afraid too, they keep me normal for the most part, and I need to stay that way.  Meds or not, you still go thru manic episodes, but not nearly as bad as you do without your meds!!!!
I'm just trying to help you, if you are put on meds; please take them-and do not be ashamed to go to the Dr., have you heard or read the stats on how many people need to go to counseling and Dr.s-trust me, nobody has anything to be ashamed to go to go.  It's worse to need to go and not go!!!
Take care, and God Bless to you all!!!!

I have bipolar 1...no picnic...but with meds, I can live a much more normal life...not taking meds just to be "normal"...sounds like a bipolar decision...I've done the "going off the meds" thing...it doesn't work...I wouldn't dare go off of my meds now...too many trips to the psych ward...I'm happy to say that I've been "psych-ward-free" since 1995...after years of multiple visits...all due to meds and counseling...and the right diagnosis...originally, I was put on meds that made the mania worse...and the doctors wouldn't listen...I had no idea what mania was...and I was too ashamed of the symptoms to say anything about them...I was waiting for the doctors to ask...and they never did...so I never said anything...it was several years before a GOOD doctor diagnosed bipolar disorder...

 

So...those just starting on the road...hang in there...be completely honest with your doctor...they are there to help you...and the only way they can help is to hear the COMPLETE story from you...over-spending, hyper-sexuality, too much talking, feeling a  little too much "on top of the world"...and the depressed end...feeling so hopeless...like it will never end...

 

My advice...see the doctor...be honest...take your meds...communicate with your doctor...keep a mood diary to review with your doctor at your appointments...like I've said before...just a day planner, and one or two key words to help you remember how you felt...

 

Becky

 
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July 30, 2008, 7:18 am PDT

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Recently I was put on a med for pre-diabetes.  My doc said it would give me more energy as a side effect.  I didn't think much of it only I knew I didn't want to get diabetes, that's for sure!  So a few days went by and suddenly I was in such a huge mania I couldn't sit still and my brain was racing like you wouldn't believe.  I didn't sleep for two whole days and nights.  It was a huge reminder of what I was like for most my life.  Fortunately the mania is starting to slow down and I can finally sleep again.  I can't find a pdoc yet.  Everyone I call says they are not taking any new patients.  To make a long story short, I'm okay now and in about 3 months I might be able to get off the other med. 

 

It also reminded me how important it is to take your meds and not get into trouble.  Mania is nothing to take lightly.  ....even though it's sometimes a bit fun.  The consequences like over spending, lack of sleep, irrataional thinking, etc. is not worth it.  I was on quite a ride there for a while!!!

 

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July 30, 2008, 12:24 pm PDT

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Recently I was put on a med for pre-diabetes.  My doc said it would give me more energy as a side effect.  I didn't think much of it only I knew I didn't want to get diabetes, that's for sure!  So a few days went by and suddenly I was in such a huge mania I couldn't sit still and my brain was racing like you wouldn't believe.  I didn't sleep for two whole days and nights.  It was a huge reminder of what I was like for most my life.  Fortunately the mania is starting to slow down and I can finally sleep again.  I can't find a pdoc yet.  Everyone I call says they are not taking any new patients.  To make a long story short, I'm okay now and in about 3 months I might be able to get off the other med. 

 

It also reminded me how important it is to take your meds and not get into trouble.  Mania is nothing to take lightly.  ....even though it's sometimes a bit fun.  The consequences like over spending, lack of sleep, irrataional thinking, etc. is not worth it.  I was on quite a ride there for a while!!!

 

Susan

In addition to the diabetes medication, did your doctor make some dietary recommendations?  It might be helpful for you to meet with a dietician...you would be surprised where the carbohydrates hide in food...my husband is type 1 diabetic (all his life...born without the insulin gland)...besides insulin, diet is a very important factor in controlling his blood sugar levels...we are avid label-readers...

 

I realize it is very difficult to change a lifetime of eating habits overnight...try the internet...read up on pre-diabetes...type 2 diabetes is very preventable...I'm glad that your doc is pro-active about treating you before it becomes worse...

 

Keep trying to find a doctor...try going to www.nami.org  They can direct you to a NAMI group in your area.  They might be able to assist you in finding a doctor who is accepting new patients.  Is there a community mental health center in your town?  They might be able to help you too.  Most of the doctors in our area are not accepting new patients....I got lucky when I needed to find a new doctor...my old clinic stopped taking my insurance...I didn't like that doctor anyway...my new doc is great...and she specializes in women with bipolar disorder...I've been with her for over a year now...

 

I am currently fighting a sinus infection...I saw my primary care doctor yesterday...she prescribed an antibiotoc...it is helping already...just confirmation that it is an infection rather than a virus...no steroid...fortunately...sometimes she prescribes prednisone if my asthma gets out of hand...and it makes me terribly manic...

 

Which diabetes med did your doctor prescribe?  I didn't know that diabetes meds would cause mania...although, when my husband's blood sugar drops low, he has trouble sleepng...do you have a glucose test meter?  Usually, the meter companies will give you a free one, and all you have to buy are the test strips...anybody on diabetes meds should have a test meter...and use it several times a day...that shakey, anxious feeling, and lack of sleep could be an indicator that your blood sugar level is low...better have that checked out...call your doctor and let him know what's going on...

 

Have a good day...and keep us posted...Becky

 

 

 
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July 30, 2008, 1:08 pm PDT

hi becky

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In addition to the diabetes medication, did your doctor make some dietary recommendations?  It might be helpful for you to meet with a dietician...you would be surprised where the carbohydrates hide in food...my husband is type 1 diabetic (all his life...born without the insulin gland)...besides insulin, diet is a very important factor in controlling his blood sugar levels...we are avid label-readers...

 

I realize it is very difficult to change a lifetime of eating habits overnight...try the internet...read up on pre-diabetes...type 2 diabetes is very preventable...I'm glad that your doc is pro-active about treating you before it becomes worse...

 

Keep trying to find a doctor...try going to www.nami.org  They can direct you to a NAMI group in your area.  They might be able to assist you in finding a doctor who is accepting new patients.  Is there a community mental health center in your town?  They might be able to help you too.  Most of the doctors in our area are not accepting new patients....I got lucky when I needed to find a new doctor...my old clinic stopped taking my insurance...I didn't like that doctor anyway...my new doc is great...and she specializes in women with bipolar disorder...I've been with her for over a year now...

 

I am currently fighting a sinus infection...I saw my primary care doctor yesterday...she prescribed an antibiotoc...it is helping already...just confirmation that it is an infection rather than a virus...no steroid...fortunately...sometimes she prescribes prednisone if my asthma gets out of hand...and it makes me terribly manic...

 

Which diabetes med did your doctor prescribe?  I didn't know that diabetes meds would cause mania...although, when my husband's blood sugar drops low, he has trouble sleepng...do you have a glucose test meter?  Usually, the meter companies will give you a free one, and all you have to buy are the test strips...anybody on diabetes meds should have a test meter...and use it several times a day...that shakey, anxious feeling, and lack of sleep could be an indicator that your blood sugar level is low...better have that checked out...call your doctor and let him know what's going on...

 

Have a good day...and keep us posted...Becky

 

 

The med is called metformin (spelling?)  I take it at my evening meal.  My eating habits are the worst.  Sometimes I eat supper....sometimes I don't.  Sometimes I eat breakfast...sometimes I don't.  I usually just grab anything I can put in the microwave when I feel hungry.  And it's never good for me.  I gained a lot of weight in the past year.  I've never had a weight problem in my life till now.  I don't understand it. 

 

I will try NAMI like you said.  Only how do I go about it?  I live in Colorado now and there doesn't seem to be much as far as mental guidance.  I won't give up trying though. 

 

Take care.....

 

Susan

 
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July 30, 2008, 7:40 pm PDT

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Here is chapter seven of "You Me and Apollo: Hope Beyond Bipolar Disorder"

 

Chapter 7 The Moons Bay

 

I dont want to write this chapter, but I feel it is important.  In the 1940s, before the advent of modern medicine, more than 40% of people with Bipolar eventually committed suicide.  Even today, the number of those who lose their lives to this disease is staggering.  All of us who have this Bipolar know the dark hour.  We are alone.  We are afraid.  We feel that the whole weight of the world rests upon us and we cannot carry it one step further.  In that hour, above all other times, we must know that this is not what the world is truly like.  The foreboding thoughts are not what we really think.  The terrible weight and craving for darkness are not our thoughts.  They are the products of changes in the frontal lobe of our brains, in the rate of neuron growth, in the shedding of the myelin sheath around our nerve cells.  We are, in that dark hour, locked in a false prison built of thoughts produced by this disease a disease that has
 alteredthe very function of our brains.  If we die in that hour, the disease wins.

 

My darkest hour came on a beach in California.  Id taken one of my famous road trips, all the way from Kansas to the coast in three days, then spent a week cruising northern California.  This time was different.  I had been back and forth between depression and mixed episodes for six months.  Although I beat around the California countryside for a week, my intent was clear.  In the back of the car was a rifle Id purchased especially for this occasion. Id even bought an old junker car and left my more expensive one at home to be sold to cover the bills.   I dont know what day it was when I found the bay.  It is somewhere North of Mendocino; a beautiful horseshoe bay with high cliff walls and a narrow outlet to the sea.  I played around on the beach for a few hours.  There were large lava rocks scattered here and there and a small scoop of a cave off to the right.  I decided this would be the place.

 

I went into Mendocino and fiddled around that afternoon.  I was wearing an Other and Im not sure what I was doing.  I know I ate dinner at a restaurant attached to a hotel.  I remember this because I had a flimsy internal debate about whether or not to skip the whole suicide thing and get a hotel room.  I didnt have the money, not that it would have made a difference.


It was fairly late at night when I went back to the bay.  I set myself up on a large rock, rifle in hand, suicide note in pocket.  I didnt know about Apollo 13 then, so the significance of the bright moon shining directly overhead was lost on me.  It was only a day or two from full.  I could see kelp tops underwater.  It was that bright.

 

I began to cry almost at once.  I cried because the soul that is me was rebelling against the urge to die that was not me, an urge created by my disease.  As I cried, the tears changed.  From somewhere inside, a sense of determination appeared.  I told myself, in spite of everything, I wasnt going to die.  I gave myself permission to live.  My tears of fear and sorrow became tears of relief and also grief for the part of life Id already lost to the illness.  Gradually, there came anger.   If I didnt want to die what the hell was I doing on a beach in California with a gun?  What was driving this?  Although I would not get into treatment until the next time I got seriously depressed, this was my first moment of awakening; a separation between me and the disease.   This was the moment that gave me the power to seek help.

 

I dont remember falling asleep, but I woke up on that rock several hours later.  It was cold and lava rocks are not very comfortable.  My right ankle hurt where I had been lying on my foot.  The moon was laying low over the sea and her reflection was like a sidewalk out to her.  I didnt take that walk.  I tore up the note, got in the car and started driving.  I slept the rest of the night on a roadside somewhere else and had an uncooked frozen pizza for breakfast.

 

I dont know why I got the sudden will to live.  Higher power?  So I could later bring my daughter into the world?  A little extra Vasoactive Peptide in the Cerebellum?  I dont know.  What I do know is that Im alive.  Its not my fault that I have this disease and Ill be damned if Im going to let it kill me, or anyone else I can keep away from it.

 

I know that the real me has never wanted to kill himself.  My suicidal thoughts were caused by a disease.  Having pneumonia will make you cough.  Having Bipolar makes you think about death.  Its not you.  Its the disease.

 

A lot of folks who are on the edge of suicide end up calling local law enforcement in order to prevent themselves from carrying thorough with ending their lives.  Paramedics and police officers know the mental health supports that are available and can help you.  If you are standing at the dark doorway and cant wait to call your doctor, local mental health clinic or a religious figure, put down this book and call 911 or the local emergency phone number.  I want you to live.  I cant bear to think that you would get this close to hope and not make it.  If you need help, go get it right now.

I have been reading this message board for 2 years, and I feel for you all.  I am also Bi-polar I.  Have been since I was 12.   I am now 57.  It was many years before they knew that there was a thing such as Bi-polar, never mind two of them.  I have never resonded, although I wanted to.  I guess I felt that you all had so many problems of your own, you didn't need mine.  This peice "The Moons Bay" did somthing to me.  Yes I want to live, but there is a pull to die.  I never looked at it that way.
 

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