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July 31, 2005, 5:44 pm PDT

Mussymel

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Well done on starting to reach out to your dad. I go along with what Momisme says, I am really really proud of you. These steps are never easy to take but you are a very very brave young woman and we all want to see you out of the situation you are in.

 

I also wanted to say that I'm sorry for saying that you are messed up. I didn't really mean it that way, what I meant is that at the moment you have a lot of bad stuff going on and sometimes when you are in a situation like that you can make something look better than it is, if that makes any sense. So I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings by saying that. I actually think you sound quite grounded for someone your age and what you have said since about Ryan seems like you know what you are doing. You and your brothers deserve a chance to be happy. Ufortunatly your mother isn't helping you but hopefully your dad will. Even aside from everything else you should get the chance to know your dad.

 

Again well done. I think you are really strong and you will make it.

Hey thanks Mussymel. By the way, you didn't offend me or anything by saying I was messed up. I understand what you meant. But sometimes I do feel messed up (not the way you meant it but like really messed up). Most of the time I don't know what I'm doing and I usually make alot of mistakes before I realize how to do things right. Even with Ryan..... I don't know what I'm doing but I know what I don't want to do. Hopefully I'm doing the right thing when it comes to him at least I think I am. The last guy I had a "sexual" relationship with (willingly)... well it was a HUGE mistake and definitely illegal... and it took me a while to understand that. But I'm learning, I guess.

As for my dad.... yeah I think my brothers and I should get a chance to know him, I feel like my mom kept us from him.... well she did, but that's another story. Anyway, he really wants to know the truth and I feel like I'm hurting him by not telling him the whole truth. He's willing to go through the whole legal process of taking us from our mother but I think that would be wrong... when I could easily just tell him the truth and go live with him and all..... I don't know..... Well, I gotta go. L8ter.

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August 1, 2005, 8:06 am PDT

Meaning of name

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Momisme thanks for the welcome back. The problem is I live in Ireland (am I the only non States person on here?) and with the time difference I have to catchup on loads when I get on :)!! I don't think I've had the 20 minute problem but now ye have got me paranoid about it so I'm trying to do this really fast. Luckily I am a computer programmer so I can type fairly quickly (can't spell to save my life though so sorry for the typos!)

 

MJ (what does your name mean?) I'm really sorry about your mother, she sounds awful. I don't think there is anything wrong with you not wanting to be at her funeral unless it hyrts you ultimately. My mother is one of the most self obsesed people you could meet. She didn't do the awful things your mother did but she abused us in so many other ways and she set up and environment that led to my brother abusing me. I hate her more than anything but I still want a mother and that is really hard to let go of. Maybe when I have kids of my own it will be easier.

My Dad died recently and before he died I thought I was going to cut off contact with her after it was all over. But I haven't. I still ring her becuase I feel sorry for her. She is all alone and I know that is her fault but I wouldn't want to see anyone in that position. The thing is I was talking to her yesterday and she wants to come visit me and there is no way I can let her. Apart from the way she makes me feel she is horrible tomy husband and it is his house too. The thing is that I can't get up the courage to tell her she's not welcome. I don't want the fight but I also don't want to hurt her. So now I'm stressing again! Which right now I don't need. Here I am telling Oreo to be brave and I can't face my own problems.

 

The relationship with your mother is sooooooo important and I think it is a real problem for people when that is not how it should be. I've been trying for more than 3 years to have a baby. They can't find a physical problem and my therapist thinks its because I don't feel worthy enough to be a mother. He could be right. I still don't like the person I am so how could I be a good mother. She has effected every facet of my life and I still can't cut her out.

 

When she dies I am going to the funeral to dance at her grave!

   I had a hard time trying to decide what name to pick, I am not very creative that way. I could think of a lot of negative things, but I chose MJKKAS because it is and initial out of my family's names. My children are what keep me going and alive so that is how I chose it. Now I am working on being alive for me.

   I understand about feeling sorry for your mother and not wanting to hurt her feelings, what is hard is you need to start thinking what is best for you and your family. Taking charge of your life is hard to do when someone has been overbearing.

  Have you tried setting limits with her? Tell her she is welcome to visit but it is your home and if she is rude to you or your family she can leave.  You wouldn't let anyone else do that would you?  I know it sounds hard it is hard. But saying want you want and need is good not bad, and it is very healthy, and empowering.

 
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August 1, 2005, 11:25 am PDT

That's very positive....

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   I had a hard time trying to decide what name to pick, I am not very creative that way. I could think of a lot of negative things, but I chose MJKKAS because it is and initial out of my family's names. My children are what keep me going and alive so that is how I chose it. Now I am working on being alive for me.

   I understand about feeling sorry for your mother and not wanting to hurt her feelings, what is hard is you need to start thinking what is best for you and your family. Taking charge of your life is hard to do when someone has been overbearing.

  Have you tried setting limits with her? Tell her she is welcome to visit but it is your home and if she is rude to you or your family she can leave.  You wouldn't let anyone else do that would you?  I know it sounds hard it is hard. But saying want you want and need is good not bad, and it is very healthy, and empowering.

Good for you and your screen name!
 
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August 1, 2005, 1:04 pm PDT

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Good for you and your screen name!
Thank you so much. I know things aren't easy for you now, sometimes husbands just don't get it. Mine mostly doesn't. How traumatic for you to have to go through that as a 5/6 year old. Sometimes those feelings come back and remembering it is then and not now is hard sometimes. I wish you the best!
 
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August 1, 2005, 2:28 pm PDT

Thank you so much....

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Thank you so much. I know things aren't easy for you now, sometimes husbands just don't get it. Mine mostly doesn't. How traumatic for you to have to go through that as a 5/6 year old. Sometimes those feelings come back and remembering it is then and not now is hard sometimes. I wish you the best!
I just wish once I was finished purging it would be like okay...Let me move on to something else...How about happiness...
 
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August 1, 2005, 5:04 pm PDT

Making mistakes

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Hey thanks Mussymel. By the way, you didn't offend me or anything by saying I was messed up. I understand what you meant. But sometimes I do feel messed up (not the way you meant it but like really messed up). Most of the time I don't know what I'm doing and I usually make alot of mistakes before I realize how to do things right. Even with Ryan..... I don't know what I'm doing but I know what I don't want to do. Hopefully I'm doing the right thing when it comes to him at least I think I am. The last guy I had a "sexual" relationship with (willingly)... well it was a HUGE mistake and definitely illegal... and it took me a while to understand that. But I'm learning, I guess.

As for my dad.... yeah I think my brothers and I should get a chance to know him, I feel like my mom kept us from him.... well she did, but that's another story. Anyway, he really wants to know the truth and I feel like I'm hurting him by not telling him the whole truth. He's willing to go through the whole legal process of taking us from our mother but I think that would be wrong... when I could easily just tell him the truth and go live with him and all..... I don't know..... Well, I gotta go. L8ter.

Oreo

Oreo we ALL make mistakes. Even the more 'sane' people in the world make huge ones. I've made loads so far and I'm sure I have many more in my future. Yes our experiences mean that we make judgements about things that others might not. For example I was away with 3 girlfriends a few years ago and they wanted to go to a party with this stag party we met. It was in Spain, there were 14 of them, none of them spoke english and none of us spoke spanish. They were taking us to a part of the town we didn't know and I refused to go. To a point where one of the other girls said that becuase I was married I was ruining the night for the rest of them. Needless to say the rest of the holiday didn't go too well. The thing is my unfortunate experience in life meant that I wasn't as niave as them and I wasn't willing to put myself in a dodgy situation. They didn't have the same perspective as me so didn't see anything wrong. In that instance I am really glad I had that outlook coz it was a stupid thing to do.

 

Sorry I'm getting sidetracked. Anyway don't worry too much about making mistakes. It is all part of life that's how we learn. As toddlers we feel our way around and if we touch off something we don't like we don't go back there. That is learning from experience and all mistakes are part of that. The best thing you can do is learn to trust yourself and your judgement. Sometimes it can be hard to follow through with that and you can get led by other influences. Just like I know in my gut that the best thing I can do for me and my husband right now is stop having any relationship with my mother but that isn't the easiest thing to do, so I'm just trying to keep out of harms way as much as possible. Don't think that because we are older we have all the answers. I certainly don't, I'm just learning as I'm going. Like I said before you are in a difficult situation at the moment, most of us I think are dealing with a past that we have to try to come to terms with but you are dealing with a present danger and also the normal parts of growing up. Being a teenager isn't easy without the stuff you are dealing with so just take each day as it comes and listen to your gut.

 
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August 1, 2005, 5:08 pm PDT

What's in a name?

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   I had a hard time trying to decide what name to pick, I am not very creative that way. I could think of a lot of negative things, but I chose MJKKAS because it is and initial out of my family's names. My children are what keep me going and alive so that is how I chose it. Now I am working on being alive for me.

   I understand about feeling sorry for your mother and not wanting to hurt her feelings, what is hard is you need to start thinking what is best for you and your family. Taking charge of your life is hard to do when someone has been overbearing.

  Have you tried setting limits with her? Tell her she is welcome to visit but it is your home and if she is rude to you or your family she can leave.  You wouldn't let anyone else do that would you?  I know it sounds hard it is hard. But saying want you want and need is good not bad, and it is very healthy, and empowering.

MJKKAS I think that is a lovely way to pick your name. Mussy was the nickname my dad had for me and has good feelings attached to it. Believe it or not that was already taken so Mel is from my actual name. It kind of sound like messymel as well which is how I feel alot of the time and definitely how my house looks most of the time :)!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the advice but setting limits with my mother is like trying to reason with a dictator! The thing is she never believes she does anything wrong and is very very difficult to argue with. She always wins because she has conditioned the responses I give so she knows what buttons to push etc. She is a very controlling and manipulative person. The thing is she isn't welcome in my home. I finally have security and safety and I'm not letting her in here. I just don't want to have to tell her that! BIG COWARD. I have forgiven my brother for what he did but I will never be able to forgive her and I am tired of the effect she has on my life. I would really really like to get the courage to cut her out of my life completely but life is never simple is it. Someday soon it is all going to come out and then maybe the choice will be made for me.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway tomorrow is another day and we've had a long weekend here so I'm back to work in the morning so I'd better go get some sleep (it's after 1am here). Catch up with you all tomorrow.

 

 

 
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August 1, 2005, 6:05 pm PDT

Mothers

Mothers~~~now there's a subject that can really get me going.  When I was a teenager I hated my mother, couldn't wait to get out of that house and out from under her constant "what are you doing, where are you going, you better not be pregnant" blah blah blah  NOt that my mother did any kind of abuse to me like some of you have experienced, unless it falls under emotional abuse, unintentional, but still has it's effects.  She is basically a sweet person but even now I have a difficult time dealing with her.  These days I am helping to take care of her, and some days I do what I have to do and get out of there as quick as I can.  I don't ever remember feeling loved or even hearing the words I love you.  On Mother's Day I have a difficult time buying a card cause I have to look for one that is pretty vanilla, no lovey 'You were the best Mom' kind of thing.  Sad, I know she did her best and sure she does love me and my sibs but we all have a difficult time. I was always so jealous of friends who could talk to their mothers about sex and life, and their mothers took them fun places.  I always got to tag along but my mom was never there.  I was the only girl in the sixth grade whose mother did not come to the Mother/daughter film about growing up.  Boy was I embarassed.  

Now that I am older I am starting to see she wasn't so bad compared to others.  I try my hardest to be there for her now that she needs help, but it aint easy.

 

 

 
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August 1, 2005, 6:21 pm PDT

mj, mussymel

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Momisme thanks for the welcome back. The problem is I live in Ireland (am I the only non States person on here?) and with the time difference I have to catchup on loads when I get on :)!! I don't think I've had the 20 minute problem but now ye have got me paranoid about it so I'm trying to do this really fast. Luckily I am a computer programmer so I can type fairly quickly (can't spell to save my life though so sorry for the typos!)

 

MJ (what does your name mean?) I'm really sorry about your mother, she sounds awful. I don't think there is anything wrong with you not wanting to be at her funeral unless it hyrts you ultimately. My mother is one of the most self obsesed people you could meet. She didn't do the awful things your mother did but she abused us in so many other ways and she set up and environment that led to my brother abusing me. I hate her more than anything but I still want a mother and that is really hard to let go of. Maybe when I have kids of my own it will be easier.

My Dad died recently and before he died I thought I was going to cut off contact with her after it was all over. But I haven't. I still ring her becuase I feel sorry for her. She is all alone and I know that is her fault but I wouldn't want to see anyone in that position. The thing is I was talking to her yesterday and she wants to come visit me and there is no way I can let her. Apart from the way she makes me feel she is horrible tomy husband and it is his house too. The thing is that I can't get up the courage to tell her she's not welcome. I don't want the fight but I also don't want to hurt her. So now I'm stressing again! Which right now I don't need. Here I am telling Oreo to be brave and I can't face my own problems.

 

The relationship with your mother is sooooooo important and I think it is a real problem for people when that is not how it should be. I've been trying for more than 3 years to have a baby. They can't find a physical problem and my therapist thinks its because I don't feel worthy enough to be a mother. He could be right. I still don't like the person I am so how could I be a good mother. She has effected every facet of my life and I still can't cut her out.

 

When she dies I am going to the funeral to dance at her grave!

I can understand a little what you guys are dealing with when wondering if to go to your mother's funeral or allow her to come to your home.  What a sad thing to have to decide. 

 

Hubby and I have a bad relationship with his family and have not spoken to his mother for almost 10 years.  The reasons are not about sexual abuse or anything, but she was very hurtful to us and we just couldn't have it in our lives any more.  We don't fight over dealing with his family any more and it has been so nice to have holidays that were not ruined by his stupid mother and siblings.  On the other hand it is so hard not to have the love of a mother.  The love and relationship that you long for is not the one you get when you go back and it is like hitting a brick wall time and time again.  Why do we do that to ourselves?  We're seeking something that will never be what we think it should be.  DH says he will go to his mother's funeral when that day comes, but I don't know if I should.  I know I should support him and my children but after the pain she caused my husband and me I just don't know if I can ever forgive her.  What a messed up family.  I don't understand how a mother could do the things my MIL has done or the mothers who have abused their children. 

 
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August 1, 2005, 6:24 pm PDT

Setting limits

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MJKKAS I think that is a lovely way to pick your name. Mussy was the nickname my dad had for me and has good feelings attached to it. Believe it or not that was already taken so Mel is from my actual name. It kind of sound like messymel as well which is how I feel alot of the time and definitely how my house looks most of the time :)!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the advice but setting limits with my mother is like trying to reason with a dictator! The thing is she never believes she does anything wrong and is very very difficult to argue with. She always wins because she has conditioned the responses I give so she knows what buttons to push etc. She is a very controlling and manipulative person. The thing is she isn't welcome in my home. I finally have security and safety and I'm not letting her in here. I just don't want to have to tell her that! BIG COWARD. I have forgiven my brother for what he did but I will never be able to forgive her and I am tired of the effect she has on my life. I would really really like to get the courage to cut her out of my life completely but life is never simple is it. Someday soon it is all going to come out and then maybe the choice will be made for me.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway tomorrow is another day and we've had a long weekend here so I'm back to work in the morning so I'd better go get some sleep (it's after 1am here). Catch up with you all tomorrow.

 

 

   I know that setting limits doesn't always work, And yes cutting off isn't easy either but if it is the only way for you to have peace, then you know what needs to be done.  I can't confront my mother anymore so avoidance is the next best thing. Even though I told her 18 years ago I didn't want her in my life and that I would call her, she still showed up on my doorstep. Yes it was 18 years later but still I couldn't tell her she couldn't come in my home. So I know what you are going through, believe me. Good luck to you!
 
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