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October 28, 2005, 3:36 pm PDT

Childhood Sexual Abuse

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Hello to you too. I think that you can heal without 

confrontation, some professionals encourage it 

and think it is helpful. It can be helpful, but if you 

do confront, don't hold any false hopes. They almost 

never go the way you think or want. Denial is such  

a big thing for for them and they would have to face 

what they have done and it most likely won't. 

  

I am glad that your brother is a support to you, you  

need all the support you can get. There is a young woman 

here that is in the process of doing the court thing. 

She doesn't want others to be hurt by her abuser either. 

Not everyone can do that and I think it is OK if some 

can't, it is a choice (just have to say that). 

  

I would get a hold of DFS or CPS and see what you 

need to do. Are you in therapy? they could help you  

also, get you into the right places and such. I hope 

that helps you. Take care! Feel free to post anytime, 

know that we feel the same things as you ;). 

  

mj 

Hi there, 

  

I too was molested by my father until just before my ninth birthday.  I was one of the lucky ones that did have a wonderful family for support and I am so thankful for that.  But, I have been struggling with anger and I believe the anger stems from his never paying for what he did to me or admitting to what he has done.  I don't know whether or not I can completely heal if I don't confront him, I want him to know the effects of what he did to me.  My parents were divorced when I was under 2 years old and I always remember being afraid of him, and not realizing why.  I have blocked out most of the time I spent with him but I recall enough of the last year.  I had the nightmares and still do, I hate water on my face and don't know why, I have trouble being alone at night when it is dark, when I was younger I would think that someone was outside looking in the window's at me and I would pull the shades down, I cannot snuggle with my husband very well, I changed my name when I was 18, and the list goes on.  I have read the book Courage to heal and it didn't really help me.  I know all the stuff about how wrong he was but what I want to know is how to get past the anger, I want to know what to do when I see him with his family and I feel ill ad my stomach turns.  I have to have my house in order or I cannot stand it, because that is something that I can control.  I am not obsessive about it but I get a sense of satisfaction when it is all clean.  I have abandonment issues and a horrible fear of leaving my daughter in someone else's care.  I will leave her with my mother or my three friends but I have this fear that something will happen to her, she makes me happy so naturally I am afraid of losing her. 

  

I think that abusers should have to be held accountable.  I feel that we need to tell them what damage they have done to us to take back the power that they once had over us.  The one thing I do have is that I was told by my police chief that in the state of NH there are no statute of limitations for me, not if it is your father that is the abuser.  I know of two other girls that he has molested and several that he has harassed.  I told his new wife what he did and she still stays with him, with her two kids. 

 

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October 28, 2005, 7:32 pm PDT

thank you for the encouragement.. and the word struggle.

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You know, I have to take my hat off to you!! 

Not all kids get there mothers to take their side 

and help them and support them. If all mothers did 

that then there would be less of a struggle, JMO. 

  

If you know that she loves you and you are there for her 

then don't feel guilty, we can't always protect our kids. 

The important thing is you got her away form him and 

are doing whatever you can for her. Even now, helping  

her take care of her sick child. What a great mother  

you are!  

  

I just don't like the words you used "she is not wallowing in the pity" 

That bothers me, because I don't think we wallow. We 

struggle. I don't want to offend you, so please don't take 

it that way. But no one wants to live this pain, we want it 

to be over and gone. SO I use the word Struggle instead of 

wallow. 

  

Glad to have you here and please take care! 

  

mj 

Thank you for your reply. and I did use the wrong word.. thank you, for she has and does still struggle..  

I used wallow for that is what I had done for years.. the  guilt that was placed on me,, for I was also abused as a child.. but I was blamed,, it was my fault.. just get over it,, It devistated me.. that is where.. you can harm me.. (cause nobody did nothing to protect me)  I remember my mom saying how her stepdad  molested her too.. but her mom did not believe her.. ) like duh,, if one of your children showed signs,, look into them,, My mom never ever got over her molestation.. never.. and always felt betrayed , that nobody protected her..  

Something in me, knew something was up.. someone was touching my child. and for some,, inward reaction, I took my child to the aware shelter.. they got to the bottom of it,, and sure enough. I was right..  

We struggled with the  incest for years of councelling.. for a period it was 6 to 7 times a week, councelling.. some times.. 2 to three times a day.. I was determined to help my daughter overcome the brutal rape she endured.. every holiday, I even trusted this guy to watch my child as I went back to school, I struggle with the guilt I feel.. guilt I allowed it to happen,, but.. thank you.. for it is not in wallowing, It was and is a struggle.. but when applied the councelling and the tools we recieved in the counclling.. my daughter has helped many other children to testify.. against there assailant..  

          I am a blessed mom.. yes I know.. but how does one overcome the guilt that every holiday. every week,, my daughter was molested. tied up.. sodomized.  and to know this guy wants to get off scott free..  

           you enlightened me. it is a struggle , but it can be overcome..  

thank you for the encourgement. I need that.   I try to hold my head up.  molestation is a family affair. but one,, even if you have to let go of the family.. for they disowned us..  It feels good to have faced the fact. my child was violated. but again, she is determined to overcome.  

  

 
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October 28, 2005, 9:06 pm PDT

Childhood Sexual Abuse

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Don’t be fooled by me.  

Don’t be fooled by this mask that I wear.  

For I wear a thousand masks and none of them are really me.  

Masks that I’m too afraid to take off,  

Fearing that you’ll get to know me.  

Pretending is an art that is second nature to me.  

I’m pretending that I am in command and that I need no one.  

That I’m cool and that my surface is so smooth and   

I cannot be shaken by anything.   

I act as if I am in control, but please don’t for one moment  

Be fooled by my surface, that’s only my mask.  

Beneath this mask lies no smugness, no complacence.  

Beneath this mask dwells the real me in confusion, Loneliness and Fear.  

But I don’t dare tell you that.  

I don’t dare tell you that this is my mask.  

I’m frightened by all the possibilities of my own weaknesses  

Being exposed.  

I think about it all the time. Will I look like a fool?  

That’s why I work frantically to create this mask  

To hide behind in my relationships with people.  

This nonchalant, sophisticated façade helps me pretend

And shields me from the glance that knows me.  

But such a glance is precisely my only salvation.  

It’s my only salvation if, however, the glance is followed by   

Acceptance and love.  

It’s the only thing that can liberate me from myself, from my   

Own self-built prison…from the barriers that I have so  

Painstakingly created.  

It is only that glance that will assure me of what I cannot assure  

In myself and, that is, that I a really worth something.  

But I don’t tell you this. I don’t dare to. I’m afraid to.  

I’m afraid that your glance will not be followed by   

Acceptance and love.  

I’m afraid that you’ll think less of me…that you’ll laugh and  

That your laugh would kill me. I’m afraid that deep down I am nothing.  

That I’m just no good and soon you’re going to find out and you’ll   

No longer love me…that you’ll reject me.  

So I play my game. My desperate, pretending game with the  

Facades of assurance from without and that of a trembling  

Little child within.  

And my life becomes a front.  

And I idly chatter to you suave tones about anything  

That means nothing.  

And yet I can never tell about the crying inside of me…  

Of my greatest hurts…of my deepest fears…my concerns.  

I can’t tell you that because I am afraid.  

So please listen carefully not to what I’m saying,   

But to what I am not saying.  

To what I’d like to be able to say. And for what my very own  

Survival I need to say.  

I dislike this hiding…honestly.  

I dislike this phony, superficial game I’m playing.  

I really would like to be genuine and spontaneous and me.  

But you’ve got to help me.  

You’ve got to hold out your hand.  

You’ve got to hold out your hand even when it appears to you  

That it’s the last thing I want from you, because I am going to share a secret  

With you about myself;   

The moment I act like I need you the least is the moment I need you the most.  

 

 

  

 

   

  

Don’t be fooled by this mask. When you see anger in this mask, don’t be  

Fooled for one second…that’s not anger, that’s hurt.  

The mask of anger is easier to show than the mask of hurt.  

And if we make the error of looking at people’s masks   

Only to see anger on their faces, we may end up alone  

Only because we missed the point.  

You have the power to wipe away this blank stare of the  

"Breathing dead" beneath this mask.   

It will not be easy for you.  

Long felt hurts make my masks endure.  

The nearer you approach me the harder I may strike back.  

Irrationally, I fight against the very thing that I cry out for-MY IDENTITY.  

You may wonder who I am. You shouldn’t.  

Don’t be fooled by the face I wear.  

I am someone you know very well.  

It is me!  

WOW! Did you write this? It really touched me. It was as if I was reading about myself. People think that they know me. But the truth of the matter is that I do not let anyone close enough to me to let them really know me. Not even my best friend of 25 years. Everyone is kept at arms length except my children. And then it is my job to protect and comfort them so they do not have to know anything about me except that I am always here for them. I am always on their side. NO MATTER WHAT! I only wish that my mom was the same way. She has never really been there for me. I tried telling her about the abuse but she refused to hear it. I think she thought that if she did not hear it it was not happening. Was she ever wrong. There are times that I am very angry with her.
 
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October 28, 2005, 11:16 pm PDT

you have made my day!!

Quote From: mjkkas

Wow, get over it huh? I really hate that when 

people say that. We did not choose this, it 

was put upon us by someone else. 

  

I myself would walk and not turn back, you  

never got your mothers support and you  

probably never will. I know that may sound harsh, 

but I think we hold on to the dream of what 

we needed our families to be for us. It just 

doesn't happen that way, see I would dream of 

having this family that would love and support me 

in anything, so I kept contact with my mother in 

hopes that that would happen soon. She would call 

me and we could go shopping or "do lunch". 

Well I realized that I don't want my mother to call 

me, I want the mother I never had to call me. 

There is a big difference there isn't there?  

  

I am really sorry that you have not had the support 

that you needed from your family and for your 

mother to call you a tramp? OH that makes me 

real mad! You are a "Princess" I hope that you 

really know that, I like that you picked that name 

for yourself. I hope that you are well and that 

you can feel free to post here anytime. Take Care! 

  

mj 

you have no idea how wonderful it is to know that there is someone else out there who understands what i have been through. how true it is that i had 2 ideas of my mother, the person she is and the nurturing "mommy" i needed her to be. the ironic thing is i have an autistic brother, and the mother i wanted her to be for me is the mother she is for him. she is actually the one who started calling me "the princess". it was supposed to be a put down, but a few years ago i saw a sticker at a christian book store that said "i know i am a princess, my father is the king of kings" my earthly mother, who could not be what i needed has been replaces with my heavenly father who supplies my every need and gives me the desires of my heart. Praise God!!!!!
 
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October 29, 2005, 6:12 pm PDT

thanks for replying

Thanks MJ and neosmom23 for taking the time and effort to reply to my message.  I feel so invisible and worthless right now that I was pleasantly surprised that someone responded.  Thank you so much.  I will get the book Courage to Heal and start healing already.  It's about time.   

  

Today I have been super depressed just thinking about this over and over.  I feel like I can't function and be a mom.  I feel paralyzed.  Like I am just surviving but not living.  I'm taking 150mg of Zoloft and even that is not helping.  My therapist and I both suspect that I have an underactive thyroid because of all my symptoms but I know it's a lot more complex than that.  I just hope I start feeling better soon because feeling like this just makes my self-esteem plummett even more. 

 
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October 30, 2005, 8:04 am PST

Hello everyone

I have been off for a couple of days, sorry I haven't 

responded to you all individually, I have been 

super busy! Weekends are hard to et on sometimes. 

  

I hope that you are all well and I will be back on tomorrow. 

Hopefully some of the regulars will be on soon too.  

Have a good day and know that I have read your posts 

and I hope that we can all be good to ourselves :). 

  

mj 

 
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October 30, 2005, 5:37 pm PST

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I am glad some of you can face your abuser.  That isn't something i am interested in.  I am too scared to even look at him when i walk down the hall in school.  I just want that feeling to go away and i don't think saying anything would help.  I actually feel like i was the problem that i was just the friend that was appealing to him.  I can't help how i look and i just didn't know.  I came and decided to read some of the articles and am now on my way to better myself but right now facing what i don't know isn't on my list
 
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October 30, 2005, 5:59 pm PST

what defines you

i want to be what i pretend to be.  gah...  I can help ppl but i can't help myself...urg  I want to beat myself up.  I want to train myself to forget but in the end all i would do is fool myself.  I don't even know where to begin to be ME and that scares me.  I have almost forgotten who i am b/c who i am today and yesterday isn't me it is just a wounded animal.  I have pity on myself and others.  How i manage to help others and not me makes me realize i don't know me at all.  I wish i did.  When my brother went to the hospital this morning i wasn't worried at all.  He culd have been dieing and i don't think i would have cried,  I think the events leadin up to now have numbed me and still i feel that pain but you know what....I am too stuborn to go to anyone to admit it.  Over the line it is fine b/c it feels like a jounal but to someones face...Well that is real and what is real can't change
 
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October 30, 2005, 6:58 pm PST

help!!

i am a 20 year old nursing student and i was raped almost 2 years ago by another student on campus who I didn't know at the time.  All I knew was that he was part of student security.  I don't even know if this is the right place to post this but i desperately need someone to talk to about this who understands what i am going thru.  i can't talk to my parents cuz they told me it was my fault and it's just not spoken about.  i am so confused and in so much pain right now that i can barely function.  Every time i turn around i feel like i am going to see him and i am terrified of seeing him again.  In our nursing school we spend the first year on another campus to get some of our credits. it was that first year that i was walking back to my dorm late at nite by myself and took a short cut.  stupid i know.  he came out of no where behind and i didn't even have a chance to fight him off.  he had a knife and said he would kill me if i said anything.  so i didn't tell anyone for several months that this had happened.  not even my roommate.  the second year of nursing school we move to a different campus to attend classes.  i thought i would never have to see him again after the first year.  then this past summer he had english classes with me at MY school.  i was so pissed off and so scared and couldnt tell anyone because of the threat to kill me if i did.  i don't have anybody to talk to about this and i really don't know how  to talk about it very well because my brother and i were raised in a way that what happens in the family stays in the family.  so i started cutting to deal with the pain.  and i really don't want to go into that very much right now cuz i am so blah and this paragraph has been hard enough for me to get out....lol.  like i said i don't know if i am posting this in the right spot but i didn't know where else to go.  i desperately want someone to talk to and someone who will listen.  and i know i need help with this....i mean comeon.....i am a nursing student who cuts herself...i feel like i'm going nuts.... 

  

 
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October 31, 2005, 4:31 am PST

Find Your Strength

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i am a 20 year old nursing student and i was raped almost 2 years ago by another student on campus who I didn't know at the time.  All I knew was that he was part of student security.  I don't even know if this is the right place to post this but i desperately need someone to talk to about this who understands what i am going thru.  i can't talk to my parents cuz they told me it was my fault and it's just not spoken about.  i am so confused and in so much pain right now that i can barely function.  Every time i turn around i feel like i am going to see him and i am terrified of seeing him again.  In our nursing school we spend the first year on another campus to get some of our credits. it was that first year that i was walking back to my dorm late at nite by myself and took a short cut.  stupid i know.  he came out of no where behind and i didn't even have a chance to fight him off.  he had a knife and said he would kill me if i said anything.  so i didn't tell anyone for several months that this had happened.  not even my roommate.  the second year of nursing school we move to a different campus to attend classes.  i thought i would never have to see him again after the first year.  then this past summer he had english classes with me at MY school.  i was so pissed off and so scared and couldnt tell anyone because of the threat to kill me if i did.  i don't have anybody to talk to about this and i really don't know how  to talk about it very well because my brother and i were raised in a way that what happens in the family stays in the family.  so i started cutting to deal with the pain.  and i really don't want to go into that very much right now cuz i am so blah and this paragraph has been hard enough for me to get out....lol.  like i said i don't know if i am posting this in the right spot but i didn't know where else to go.  i desperately want someone to talk to and someone who will listen.  and i know i need help with this....i mean comeon.....i am a nursing student who cuts herself...i feel like i'm going nuts.... 

  

Dear flutterby6: 

I am not a qualified therapist and my advise to you may be wrong.  I think you are brave to face your rapist.  If he tries to speak to you please don't cower.  Rape is not about sex, it is about power.  You tell that young man that if he EVER touches you again you WILL file charges.   

  

Don't ask you mom.  Moms tend to protect their children and she will want you to keep quiet.  Don't keep quiet.  Our problems get bigger when we keep quiet.  When we face our fears, we grow stronger and I want you to find your strength.  It's there for you. 

  

I am so sorry that this creep raped you.  Stand up to him and watch HIM cower.  He may grin, but he will leave you the hell alone. 

  

Best Regards, 

Seahag  

 
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