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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 08:57:56 am
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January 7, 2006, 10:07 am PST

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I understand what you mean now.  What occurred to me is that you now believe that no one is going to come save you and that you are on your own.  When I read your third paragraph, I felt several emotions in your writing: loneliness, vulnerability, lost hope, fear yet strength and a feeling of taking control, too. Could that cause anxiety and amplify this other big, scary feeling you have?  To be alone is saving yourself is scary and I wonder if there is any connection although it's clear that this feeling you have is very strong.  Does your therapist have any thoughts on the root of it?  Do you? 

  

I have been on Lexapro for awhile...max. dose.  I can relate to feeling like a failure to have to take it.  On the other hand, that is my feeling.  I think I would be more of a failure (visible to others) if I did not take it.  So maybe we just have to get over the med thing and take it and give ourselves a chance to feel better. 

       I too feel that it would be a bigger failure if I did not take the lexapro and I was not able to function.  It feels like such a narrow line  to walk trying to work through this stuff - to help myself, while maintaining an outside life.  Recently I feel like someone is rocking that line I'm standing on.  I'll take all the help I can get to not go over, so I am using the lexapro.
 
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January 9, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

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Many of us who have gone through ths kind of thing have boundry issues in relationships and diffculties with some interpersonal interactions. I for one am struggleing in these areas. What have you done (anyone) that has benifitted you in overcoming some obsticals in these areas? My 20 year old daughter for example treats me like dirt. She has been planning her wedding and she is driving me nuts. I'm ready to run for the hills. I can't bear to deal with conflicts, I bury my anger, I hate to dissapoint people. I have a real struggle with just saying "no" to people but I'm working on it big time! I may go postal (just kidding) My hubby does not want to pay for the wedding because of her bad attitudes. I am torn. Naturally, I want to give her a nice wedding but I cannot afford much. She has very expensive taste. I have alloted a dollar amount to give her but will not reveal that amount until the last possible min. She will be paying for most of the expense. I feel like a pig because I always thought that a decent mother would do this for her daughter. But really she does have an attitude issue. Could I just rent a nice quiet cabin somewhere until time to show up for the wedding? I still have to deal with being treated like dirt by my mom and other family aquaintances. Really, I ve had enough. Forgive my complaints.
 
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January 9, 2006, 3:28 pm PST

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Many of us who have gone through ths kind of thing have boundry issues in relationships and diffculties with some interpersonal interactions. I for one am struggleing in these areas. What have you done (anyone) that has benifitted you in overcoming some obsticals in these areas? My 20 year old daughter for example treats me like dirt. She has been planning her wedding and she is driving me nuts. I'm ready to run for the hills. I can't bear to deal with conflicts, I bury my anger, I hate to dissapoint people. I have a real struggle with just saying "no" to people but I'm working on it big time! I may go postal (just kidding) My hubby does not want to pay for the wedding because of her bad attitudes. I am torn. Naturally, I want to give her a nice wedding but I cannot afford much. She has very expensive taste. I have alloted a dollar amount to give her but will not reveal that amount until the last possible min. She will be paying for most of the expense. I feel like a pig because I always thought that a decent mother would do this for her daughter. But really she does have an attitude issue. Could I just rent a nice quiet cabin somewhere until time to show up for the wedding? I still have to deal with being treated like dirt by my mom and other family aquaintances. Really, I ve had enough. Forgive my complaints.

Why do you want to wait until the end to reveal your budget?  Why not tell her you can afford to contribute $x to the wedding and let her make the decisions on how to work within that budget.  You can tell her you love her and that you would like to support her by helping with x,y,z if she wants it.  Beyond that, maybe you should let her come to you if she wants help.  Don't give her permission to manipulate you into spending more or getting more out you than you are comfortable with.  If you are clear from the start and are firm along the way about sticking to your budget, then she will need to learn to make choices that aren't too expensive.  This is a stressful time for her and you, however, it sounds like she doesn't appreciate your help but expects it.  As a Mom, however, you need to help her but also provide limits to your help.   

I don't like to disappoint people either and I also dislike conflict.  I can relate with you there.  However, something else kicks in for me when it comes to dealing with my kids.  I feel like I have an obligation to set boundaries on behavior and expectations even if it means some conflict.  If the lack of conflict results in raising a kid who is not well equipped to be an adult, then I feel the conflict needs to take place.  I usually can't use the same logic with other people.   

 
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January 9, 2006, 3:30 pm PST

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       I too feel that it would be a bigger failure if I did not take the lexapro and I was not able to function.  It feels like such a narrow line  to walk trying to work through this stuff - to help myself, while maintaining an outside life.  Recently I feel like someone is rocking that line I'm standing on.  I'll take all the help I can get to not go over, so I am using the lexapro.
I can relate.  I hope it helps you.
 
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January 9, 2006, 4:31 pm PST

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Why do you want to wait until the end to reveal your budget?  Why not tell her you can afford to contribute $x to the wedding and let her make the decisions on how to work within that budget.  You can tell her you love her and that you would like to support her by helping with x,y,z if she wants it.  Beyond that, maybe you should let her come to you if she wants help.  Don't give her permission to manipulate you into spending more or getting more out you than you are comfortable with.  If you are clear from the start and are firm along the way about sticking to your budget, then she will need to learn to make choices that aren't too expensive.  This is a stressful time for her and you, however, it sounds like she doesn't appreciate your help but expects it.  As a Mom, however, you need to help her but also provide limits to your help.   

I don't like to disappoint people either and I also dislike conflict.  I can relate with you there.  However, something else kicks in for me when it comes to dealing with my kids.  I feel like I have an obligation to set boundaries on behavior and expectations even if it means some conflict.  If the lack of conflict results in raising a kid who is not well equipped to be an adult, then I feel the conflict needs to take place.  I usually can't use the same logic with other people.   

If I reveal the budget too soon then the tug a war starts. I have tried to do as you have suggested. I too feel that it is my responibility as a mother to teach healthy boundries. It's my crazy family and my  wealthy (did i mention he will not pay for the wedding? because he feels I do not contribute to her support?) ex hubby who make such a mess of what I try to accomplish and this kid milks it for all she can get which often gets me caught in the crossfire. Nothing these people do make any sense to me.  Despite my best efforts she has not learned the lessons I have attempted to teach. From my co dependant mother to my crazy rich ex hubby my efforts are constantly thwarted. She is 20 but I feel in a wierd sort of way guilty for not giving in to what I know to be the right thing to do. Actually, I feel downright angry at haviang to always be the proverbial porveyer of doom to her. For once I would like to be the good gal.
 
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January 9, 2006, 6:47 pm PST

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If I reveal the budget too soon then the tug a war starts. I have tried to do as you have suggested. I too feel that it is my responibility as a mother to teach healthy boundries. It's my crazy family and my  wealthy (did i mention he will not pay for the wedding? because he feels I do not contribute to her support?) ex hubby who make such a mess of what I try to accomplish and this kid milks it for all she can get which often gets me caught in the crossfire. Nothing these people do make any sense to me.  Despite my best efforts she has not learned the lessons I have attempted to teach. From my co dependant mother to my crazy rich ex hubby my efforts are constantly thwarted. She is 20 but I feel in a wierd sort of way guilty for not giving in to what I know to be the right thing to do. Actually, I feel downright angry at haviang to always be the proverbial porveyer of doom to her. For once I would like to be the good gal.
It's not fair that you get stuck making up for your ex.  All you can do is your best.  Your daughter will eventually understand that you are the steady one who has reasonable limits and will support her in other ways beyond financial.  Maybe you can give your daughter a budget (I can't understand how she can plan otherwise) and just don't allow any tug of war. (I know easier said than done!) Don't participate in any other discussions about more money.  Give her the same line: "I am giving you what I can afford.  If you need more then you'll have to ask your Dad."  Let her battle that out with her Dad so you don't have to be the messenger.  Is that possible?  The thing is, you can't fix or make up for that relationship.  They have to work on that.  Maybe he would be willing to give her a loan.  You can't give her more than you can afford.  You can't fix other poor relationships by doing more.  It's not fair to you. 
 
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January 10, 2006, 7:51 am PST

Thank you

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It's not fair that you get stuck making up for your ex.  All you can do is your best.  Your daughter will eventually understand that you are the steady one who has reasonable limits and will support her in other ways beyond financial.  Maybe you can give your daughter a budget (I can't understand how she can plan otherwise) and just don't allow any tug of war. (I know easier said than done!) Don't participate in any other discussions about more money.  Give her the same line: "I am giving you what I can afford.  If you need more then you'll have to ask your Dad."  Let her battle that out with her Dad so you don't have to be the messenger.  Is that possible?  The thing is, you can't fix or make up for that relationship.  They have to work on that.  Maybe he would be willing to give her a loan.  You can't give her more than you can afford.  You can't fix other poor relationships by doing more.  It's not fair to you. 
I actually feel better and will follow through. Now the next tough part. My family is so toxic it would make a dump look like a resort area. How do I protect me? I was blamed for the abuse and accuesed of actually encourageing it. I have yet to figure out how a 3yr old, 9 yr old etc. would be able to do this but never the less I have to endure constant personal attacks and shunning. Making peace and talking this out is not an option with them. If I had my way and I might yet get it., I 'd move. I'm working on a plan to escape my "helpless Nelly" syndrome. The family knows how to crush me and seems to take pleasure in doing so. I have kept my distance. It is actually comforting to learn and accept what cannot be changed but sometimes it is still overwhelming to deal with. I have survived abuse so servere many people would not have been live through. In a sick way it made me a better person. But I still have many of the same issues people in this situation have such as low self esteem, too much of a people pleaser, not true to myself,anger, bitterness and negativeisim. This sounds like a contridiction. There are so many fassetts to a the whole of a person. One thing I do know is that I am a darn good mother (not perfect but good)
 
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January 10, 2006, 8:40 am PST

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I actually feel better and will follow through. Now the next tough part. My family is so toxic it would make a dump look like a resort area. How do I protect me? I was blamed for the abuse and accuesed of actually encourageing it. I have yet to figure out how a 3yr old, 9 yr old etc. would be able to do this but never the less I have to endure constant personal attacks and shunning. Making peace and talking this out is not an option with them. If I had my way and I might yet get it., I 'd move. I'm working on a plan to escape my "helpless Nelly" syndrome. The family knows how to crush me and seems to take pleasure in doing so. I have kept my distance. It is actually comforting to learn and accept what cannot be changed but sometimes it is still overwhelming to deal with. I have survived abuse so servere many people would not have been live through. In a sick way it made me a better person. But I still have many of the same issues people in this situation have such as low self esteem, too much of a people pleaser, not true to myself,anger, bitterness and negativeisim. This sounds like a contridiction. There are so many fassetts to a the whole of a person. One thing I do know is that I am a darn good mother (not perfect but good)

I hear you and I am somewhat like you.  You know yourself that you are not to blame.  You know that it is your parents/family that are to blame and they were the ones that screwed up.  You did survive throught that hell and you are better than them in so many ways.  You did not hurt your kids.  They did.  Try not to give them the power to make you feel like that little girl over & over.  I struggle with this too so I know it's not easy.  It is much easier for me to give out advice rather than help myself, but i am slowly trying to make changes too.  Have some way to readjust reality when you're in contact with them.  I mean remind yourself that they can try to crush you, but expect that from the start and be prepared.  You know this is the way they operate and you know that they are wrong.  Is there something that you can do remind yourself that you are the good one and the strong one?  Avoidance is good too.  We all have to accept and believe that the abuse was not our fault.  The adult had the power and control and should have known better.  Stop trying to change your family and put more energy into other positive human relationships.   

I have to take my own advice too. :)    

 
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January 10, 2006, 11:30 am PST

I nailed it!

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I hear you and I am somewhat like you.  You know yourself that you are not to blame.  You know that it is your parents/family that are to blame and they were the ones that screwed up.  You did survive throught that hell and you are better than them in so many ways.  You did not hurt your kids.  They did.  Try not to give them the power to make you feel like that little girl over & over.  I struggle with this too so I know it's not easy.  It is much easier for me to give out advice rather than help myself, but i am slowly trying to make changes too.  Have some way to readjust reality when you're in contact with them.  I mean remind yourself that they can try to crush you, but expect that from the start and be prepared.  You know this is the way they operate and you know that they are wrong.  Is there something that you can do remind yourself that you are the good one and the strong one?  Avoidance is good too.  We all have to accept and believe that the abuse was not our fault.  The adult had the power and control and should have known better.  Stop trying to change your family and put more energy into other positive human relationships.   

I have to take my own advice too. :)    

 I know what it is that I have been doing wrong. I have been trying to earn love and acceptance from people who are not willing to give it. It is easier for my mom to blame others and not face herself. because if she did then she would have to accept responisibility for her role in knowing and not protecting. I have been blaming myself, punishing myself by perpetuating all this negativity everywhere. I am always expecting the worst and getting it from people. The reason I have been so depressed lately is that I have to now face the loss of a parent's love that I never really had. OUCH! I have got to find self worth within me somehow. I have not wanted to face the facts. I have wanted to believe that somehow ....but it just ain't so. Thing is why would I want that so much? I have overcompensated by trying to be mommy perfect knowing it is not a realistic goal and not wanting to face it. LET FREEDOM RING!. I don't have to be perfect, or acceptable to others, to anyone else but me and God of course but that is a grace thing anyway. . Who needs Dr. P? I knew all the while.  I'm on my way to healing. Wish I could offer you a hug looking4help. I think I just got a clue. WOW!
 
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January 10, 2006, 12:00 pm PST

Yea!

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 I know what it is that I have been doing wrong. I have been trying to earn love and acceptance from people who are not willing to give it. It is easier for my mom to blame others and not face herself. because if she did then she would have to accept responisibility for her role in knowing and not protecting. I have been blaming myself, punishing myself by perpetuating all this negativity everywhere. I am always expecting the worst and getting it from people. The reason I have been so depressed lately is that I have to now face the loss of a parent's love that I never really had. OUCH! I have got to find self worth within me somehow. I have not wanted to face the facts. I have wanted to believe that somehow ....but it just ain't so. Thing is why would I want that so much? I have overcompensated by trying to be mommy perfect knowing it is not a realistic goal and not wanting to face it. LET FREEDOM RING!. I don't have to be perfect, or acceptable to others, to anyone else but me and God of course but that is a grace thing anyway. . Who needs Dr. P? I knew all the while.  I'm on my way to healing. Wish I could offer you a hug looking4help. I think I just got a clue. WOW!
:) Sometimes you can't change what you want changed and it isn't your fault it won't change.  Who wouldn't want Mom's love and acceptance?  Your Mom had personal issues that consumed her and made her a bad Mom.  She had you to blame for her shortcomings because you were there and an easy target....not because of who your were/are, but because of who she was/is.  You did know this all along by=ut you didn't trust yourself enough to really believe it & live it.  Now that you believe it, LIVE IT.  Free yourself from her control and be who you know you are.  Be a great Mom who loves her daughter and doesn't use her like you were used.  Don't make up for anyone else'd shortcomings.  Be the best you can be which is never perfect.  And, when you mess up, grow from it.  Everyone screws up now & then.  It's when you look at it and learn from it that you grow as a person.  Your Mom screwed up and you are growing from it.  I'm so glad you are healing.  Print all of your posts out so you can keep them and remind yourself of this when you feel you need reminders to stay on track.  Hugs back!
 
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