Topic : Childhood Sexual Abuse Support

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May 23, 2006, 9:16 am PDT

Childhood Sexual Abuse

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"You never get over this type of assult.  It changed you at the most  fundamental primal level. " Right! It depends on how much you want to progress from your past abuse to become a whole person. Each of us knows we have "issues" and/or experiences that affect us as adults, but few of us know why, and only with professional help may we truly begin to know ourselves--that was taken from us as children by perpetrators who totally interrupted our growth and total health, including physical well-being.  

   

That scared little girl you can help right now, indeed. If you meditate, do that, and if you don't get a guided mediatation tape/cassette/CD at the library and learn how. An exercise someone put me through before I knew most of what my childhood was like, actually over a long-term question about being sexually abused by my father but I didn't want to say anything to anyone...even at the age of 46, with five grown children, for fear I'd be falsly accusing him of something--not realizing, he had plenty to be blamed for, anyway.   

   

I was told to deeply relax, and then find a place in my childhood home when this may have begun where I felt the safest. I searched and searched, every nook and crannie, even the coal bin, and a hidden shelf in my closet, but I couldn't find one place I felt safe. So, I was told to go to a place I felt safe...and I "visualized" myself walking out the back door, and over to our sandbox, and I climbed into it, and sat with my sundress pulled down over my knees. Then, I pulled up my dress a little bit, and could see freckles on one of my thighs. I was then told, "Ask her what happened to her," and I did, but she just lowered her head and wouldn't respond. So, I was told to tell her I was grown up now and I could take care of her. I did that, and decided to just take her with me, and leave that place, so I reached out my hand for her, and we walked out the back gate to my car parked along the fence. I put her into my car, and even put a seat belt on 'her,' and went and got in and began to drive away with 'her.' When I looked back at my sandbox, she was looking back at it, too.   

   

From that point on, when I have felt regressive (child-like), frightened, for any reason or no apparent reason, I have always been able to tell myself, "I am grown up now and I can take care of you."   

   

I hope this helps you, too. But, please don't try to go through your life with this fragmentation of your being without professional care. Sometimes the flash backs and nightmares may become too much and require some medication, but a good therapist/doctor will always titrate it, check to see how its affecting you, and back off of one, a bit, and maybe even start another one, etc. until you can be stablized during your days and have good night's sleep.   

   

Try to make your next step only that which will bring you the greatest potential for health and recovery--a new view on your life and your feelings.  

Be well...buena salud.   

I'm new to Dr.Phil's site, looking for support and new ways other survivors have found how to cope. Reading your message, has given me strength and hope that I can continue to move on and hopefully find happiness in life that I honestly thought I would never find. I've been putting my life on hold for years. Because I thought I didn't deserve anything better than I had now. I wouldn't allow myself to have happiness,a partner to journey through life with because of my past. Always thought I was going to be judged by it.  Again, your words were very powerful. Thank you for sharing.Hugs to you.
 
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May 23, 2006, 9:21 am PDT

help yourself save someone else

life is tough no matter what experience one has to go through no one deserves to be treated with ill respeat and so many ask what to do or any advice i dont understand this,  sexual abuse, child molestation or rape or anything in that area there are laws is there not?? once a sexual preditor always 1, someone does not not only attack once which is what some of you have learnt due to sisters realations and so on... so if this has happened to you how can you sit back and have this person stilll on d streets or if they have other young children or near others or engaged in another relationship and so on so fort do you not think what d obvious answer would be??? you are allowing these people to put someone else through d pain and torture you have experienced. you have a voice save someone elses life yes its hard, yes to do this to a family relative or what ever they maybe can cause pain for someone else but just remember this its d pain of d offences there loved one has comitted not, not from you speaking out for justice or to prevent this from happening another person and allowing then go through years of what you went through is it not worth saving someone from that and getting justice for yourself to speak and put these sick people away and not be able cause anymore harm.. please consider this what they have done to you is moraly wrong and you never deserved any of d pain they caused you help yourself by helping someone else by speaking out and putting these abusers away where they deserve to be.
 
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May 23, 2006, 9:47 am PDT

You cannot make your parents who you want them to be

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You have to speak up. Tell your Mom. It may hurt her, but in turn it may be saving another victim. Some  times the spouse has an idea, but has buried the thought deep. It is something that they are unable to admit to or accept. You can not be responsible for your mothers feelings. You do have to be responsible for your self. When I worked with an agency here in my town I took an oath to report all suspicions of child abuse. I no longer work there. But I still have that obligation. We as adults ALL have that obligation. Drink or no drink, he is still responsible for his actions. No questions about it! PERIOD! Even if your mother denies, you still have to open this up and deal with it......ask yourself a question, Can I sit on the side lines and watch to see if it is happening to others? or do I open this wide up and stop it once and for all? You can not gamble to see if this is still going on with someone else. So, what are you going to do? You are a paramedic? You save lives? This is no different. You have the support here on this board.........Ready to take the next step?
Obviously your parents are not the people you want them to be and you have to accept and find peace in that.  Because they are not the best they can be doesn't mean you won't be the best you can be, but don't put any more effort in trying to understand why.  That is their problem, it is only yours if you keep letting it be.  Be who you want to be and accept you have less than perfect parents, I think the alcohol is secondary it can be used as an excuse but they are still the people who let you down and aren't the parents you want them to be.  You are only responsible for the person you are.  If you have children set an example for them and try to be the parent they want and maybe you can find peace in knowing you gave your child the greatest gift there is.  God Bless you.
 
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May 23, 2006, 9:56 am PDT

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life is tough no matter what experience one has to go through no one deserves to be treated with ill respeat and so many ask what to do or any advice i dont understand this,  sexual abuse, child molestation or rape or anything in that area there are laws is there not?? once a sexual preditor always 1, someone does not not only attack once which is what some of you have learnt due to sisters realations and so on... so if this has happened to you how can you sit back and have this person stilll on d streets or if they have other young children or near others or engaged in another relationship and so on so fort do you not think what d obvious answer would be??? you are allowing these people to put someone else through d pain and torture you have experienced. you have a voice save someone elses life yes its hard, yes to do this to a family relative or what ever they maybe can cause pain for someone else but just remember this its d pain of d offences there loved one has comitted not, not from you speaking out for justice or to prevent this from happening another person and allowing then go through years of what you went through is it not worth saving someone from that and getting justice for yourself to speak and put these sick people away and not be able cause anymore harm.. please consider this what they have done to you is moraly wrong and you never deserved any of d pain they caused you help yourself by helping someone else by speaking out and putting these abusers away where they deserve to be.

My emotion is blank in this reply becaue I'm coming down if you will from yesterdays show.  I have so many mixed emotions about all I watched.  But in my reply to you it seems you have never been molested, raped, or what ever you want to call it as a child.  There are so many more dinamics involved than just going out and getting the bad guys that did this to us.  In a perfect world I would love to see them gone and wiped off of the face of the earth.  But please do not lose site in your anger and rage that each one of those bad nasty perps is also a husband, wife, son, daughter, mother, and father to someone.  And by the very nature of our need as human beings to connect to our care givers or die there is a horrible struggle each victum must face.  And so many victums are not strong enough without help to face all those struggles.  Each victumn must first face that they are not at fault for what happened.  And that can take years.  Then each victumn must try resolving the love and hate they have for that person.  And you must understand that families with this type of horrible sick behavior more times than not are intrenched in generations of dark secrets.  So now the victums must face the lose of family and friends.  Being molested and raped and beat down as a child is only a small bit of the problems here.  

  

I know you are angry but in your anger you are holding the victums responsible for not telling.  Do you know one of the most said things to people when they fineally disclose what someone has done to them?  I have spent a lot of time in trauma units getting healther and across the board most victums are told when they tell...why didn't you say something?  And that one phrase says to all of us as the victums it is my fault.  If I had told they would have stopped it.  If I had said no it wouldn't have happened.  

  

This is why we are now getting laws in the states that give victums until a certain age after adulthood to report.  Sometimes it just isn't as simple as just telling.   

  

Please be gentle with the victums we want the bad guys too.  But from your words I can tell you have no idea what molestation does to the soul of a human.  You are angry and please find a way to understand us and what we have lived through.  

  

   

  

 
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May 23, 2006, 11:11 am PDT

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 Well, this is a topic that hits close to home...... I had a stepfather who my mom married when I was around 6 years old, who gave me a past that I have thankfully blocked most of from my memory. He was what he would call very "strict", although I don't call hitting your stepkids with everything from a cutting board, to a metal real estate sign "strict", and then there were the "uncomfortable" times.... I remember many things, and many times that even though I was fortunate enough to escape any intercourse, (which I am convinced to this day is largely due to the fact that there were other children in the house that would wander in, quite often) still haunt me to this day.....I feel for anyone who has been through thissame situation, and I am here to tell you, if you feel the need to confront this person, GO FOR IT!! But, don't expect much- a lot of them will never admit that they ever did anything wrong.
 
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May 23, 2006, 11:39 am PDT

Childhood Sexual Abuse

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Hello everyone.  Where do I start?  I am new to the board, but am moving to California from Holland on June 6th, so won't be on board long. I will have  a computer in Calif. so then will reconnect.  In the meantime all of what I have read is real. Those of you who have repressed memories..yes, something happened, but you aren't/weren't ready to deal with it.  For those who want to do something because of the abuse, the best thing is to take care of yourself (your inner child) and later deal with "do I want to confront, or not."'   My story:  as a teenager, when my brother got horny for his girlfriend, he would come home and abuse me. I won't go into the details now, but at 69, I am still dealing with the nightmares, etc.  So much was repressed that it takes forever to flush it out.  Later, my other brother joined in. I was terrified in my own home, so was robbed of a childhood. My father stated at my mother's funeral  "now you can be my wife""  and later he tried to feel my breasts and at another time he tried to feel my legs...at age 84!  I realized why my brothers thought I was a toy...so did my father!  When I told my mom what happened, she said  It is your fault, because you are a girl.  I grew up thinking anything wrong in life was my fault.  Childhood messages became adult nightmares.  I'm on my 3rd marriage, and of course, was not healthy enough to pick a man who would treat me the way I should be treated. I picked an emotional abuser, a physically abuser and a sexual abuser.  I'm married now, but speak out when a feeling comes up, and when my spouse yells back at me, I stand firm on my boundary.  Boundaries are my key word because I've left everyone else tell me who I am and what I should do.  Getting healthy is a long process, and learning to have supportive people around me has helped. I no longer waste my energy on those who don't add to my life in a healthy way.  PTSD is a common problem with all of us, and with moving, the anxiety and sadness is back.  People have been so unkind here, because I do not know the Dutch language and because I am American(believe me, Europe does not like Americans and especially Bush).  I've been told to go back to America by dentists, doctors and others.  More abuse!  But I recognize it now, and even though it hurts, I realize it is them, not me.  Key thing I've had to learn...what is my part of this, and what is theirs?   One other thing: When I confronted my dad, and then my brother, they denied, of course.  But I knew!  Now, my own children don't want to know about any abuse, and want to cover it over. My son screamed at me when I mentioned my dad abusing me..."Don't you ruin my granddad's reputation." I know my own son does not emotionally support me, for whatever reason family members chose to avoid sexual abuse in the home.  It is a lonely struggle, everyone, but well worth knowing your boundaries, what you will put up with, and what you won't.  For those who are just starting to deal with all of this, read a good book on boundaries. You will be shocked at how many people cross ours and we let them.   Good luck everyone, and I hope I didn't take too much space. (See, I don't think I'm worth it...darn!!)   Hugs to all.  Barbara in Holland
 HI To everyone out there that reads this as I too am an Incest Survivor and am now 56 years old!!!!!!!!!!!  I have never confronted my molesters as I had many.  One which is dead and one other which is in Prison and another I never see!!!  Thank God!!!  They were all of course so called family members.  I hope and pray that all of you find peace for your sake and know that you are not alone in your goals to find peace and my heart aches for all of you as I read these messages!!!!  I work in a local Library and I have recently found out we have a child molester coming in all the time here and the police say we can't do a thing unless he does something bad!!!  I have to see this man's face everyday that I am here and it makes me totally angery and totally helpless for the children that come in here!!!  Our boss tells us we have to be polite to him which I will lose my job of 23 plus years if I have to, but I refuse to be nice to him or anyone else that I know is a child molester here in our Library!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It makes me almost physically sick to know I have to see this person(s) everyday and have to be polite to him!!  Does anyone know what I might do to make this a little easier on myself??  Thanks to you all and know I think of all children/adults of any kind of abuse all the time with a heavy heart and tears in my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   B. C.
 
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May 23, 2006, 1:21 pm PDT

Childhood Sexual Abuse

I was sexual abused by my grandfather. He was my mothers father. I will not ever get the chance to talk to him about it because he passed away. When he died everyone was upset except for me. I was happy that he was gone from this earth. I am now 46 and I have never got over it. I am in my 3 marriage. I am very happy except for when my husband wants to make love to me because I feel like I am being used.   

My grandfather took something away from me and I wish I had it back.  

   

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May 23, 2006, 2:24 pm PDT

Be Careful What You Wish For

     I am not sure how to begin.....please be patient with me,I'm new at this.Yesterday,I joined this website and discovered that I could post my opinion,share thoughts about your stories,and even have my own diary to post for others to view.I'm grateful for this opportunity to finally be able to share things about my sexual abuse with people who have experienced the same, horrible things that i have been through.  

    Today,I'd like to share some very personal things with you in hopes to help me vent and feel better about this topic.You see,I thought I had overcome the pain of being a victim of child molestation and rape but have realized that i am not, who was i kidding.I was molested by my grandfather for 7 years of my childhood and 2 years by my father about  a year after my grandfather was forced to stop.I don't consider myself a hero of any kind nor do I credit myself any reward for bravery; I feel when I had the chance,I could've done more.  

      It all started when i was six years old.My grandfather had a special liking to me.I was a very shy child,well behaved and always quiet.Yet,I will not get into the graphic details,I will try to share what i can.He tried to spend alot of time with me,was easy due to living with my grandparents because my parents had divorced and they had such busy lives that they had no time to raise their children.My sister's,brother and I shared a bedroom with bunk beds on the second floor of my grandparents home for 3 years.At that time my grandmother couldn't get around well due to her rheumatism that paralyzed her ,restricting her to a wheel chair and to only one floor of the house.I loved to help around the house and help her.There was nothing i wouldn't do for her.  

    Everything started mildly at first.He would only want me to sit on his lap while he watched the news or football(with my grandmother in the same room).I was too young to realize why he kept shifting me around on his lap.He would also approach me at the kitchen sink while I washed dishes and when I slept,he'd approach me at my bedside.During one incident,I witnessed him at my youngest sister's side of the bed.I wept so hard inside,blaming myself for not kicking her under the blanket to wake her and for not sitting up and shouting at him to stop;the least I could've done to protect her.  

    At the age of 13,I told my aunt about my grandfather and much to my surprise,she knew how he was along with everyone else in my family including my mother.No one protected us,no-one stood up for us,no one stopped him.I decided to take it to my school councilor.She set me up with a psychiatrist. I later found out he was arrested ,then released a few months later.I never found out why.   

      During the first year of my marriage, I started filling in my husband on the molestation and rape that had occurred during my childhood.Although i have shared a few details about the abuse I have incurred from my grandfather,I can't share too much about my sexual abuse from my father;the details are so vague,I cannot remember much,almost as if I had erased them.Not that I want to remember.Shortly after being married a year,my father called me to tell me that my grandfather had died.I learned that he had had a heart attack and crashed into a telephone pole and died at the scene.You see,be careful what you wish for.That still makes me feel as if I had murdered him;God does answer prayers no matter how graphic your prayers are.  

    I carried alot of guilt about my sister for many years into my adulthood.About 2 years ago,I finally told her about what i had witnessed.She was unaware of her own abuse and couldn't even remember my grandfather because we had moved around so much between family members homes that that point in time ,to her was so short lived and she was so young,she couldn't remember much.She hugged me and thanked me for sharing that and assured me she was fine and to stop blaming myself.I am still very close to her and speak with her all the time.The ironic part of all of this is ,I am close to my father too.Yes,I know he did molest me and my sisters.I warned him that I have a daughter now and I will always be Eagle eyed around him,and will hurt him if he lays a finger on her.That I promise.  

     

 
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May 23, 2006, 2:32 pm PDT

Re: What About MOM?

My Mom simply refuses to believe me at all about ANY of my sexual abuse!! By the time I was 6 I had been molested by no less than 4 guys! One was my biological father who had brought another man along and they BOTH joined in....I was 4 yrs. old,but remember looking at my father and wondering why he wasn't stopping this only to end up being molested by him the same day. My stepfather ended up molesting me when I was about 11 yrs.old. I tried to tell my Mom when I was about 46 what had happened ...she absolutely refused to believe me. So, she is calling me a liar,I guess. My step-father (on his death bed) apologized for "abusing" me,but it was a hollow victory. He was dying and it would have helped SO much more if he would have apologized sooner. But, I got more than most from ONE of my abusers. I just wish my Mom would believe me, I don't know why!
 
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May 23, 2006, 3:03 pm PDT

WHY DON'T MOM BELIEVE WHEN YOU TELL!

I WAS MOLESTED BY MY BROTHER WHEN I WAS 5YRS.OLD. IT MESSED WITH MY HEAD SO MUCH THAT I DON'T HAVE MUCH MEMORY (AT LEAST) GOOD ONES FROM AGE 5-10YRS. OLD. I BLOCKED IT FROM MY MIND UNTIL I WAS ABOUT 24 YRS. OLD. I HAD MARRIED AND HAD KIDS. AND WHEN IT CAME BACK TO ME I SPOKE TO MY MOM ABOUT IT SHE FOR SOME REASON SAID I WAS LYING. BUT ONE OF MY OLDERS SISTER DIALED THE NUMBER AND I SPOKE TO MY BROTHER. HE SAID WE WERE PLAYING DOCTOR. GRANTED HE IS 9 YRS. OLDER THAN ME. OF COURSE THIS ISN'T TRUE SINCE I WASN'T THE ONLY SISTER HE MOLESTED. WHAT BUGS THE HELL OUT OF ME IS THAT EVERYONE IS ALRIGHT WITH HIM. IT WAS LIKE I WAS THE ONE WHO DID SOMETHING WRONG. I DON'T WISH HIM ANY HARM I GAVE IT TO GOD YEARS AGO AFTER SUFFERING FROM HEADACHES AND BEING AFRAID TO BE ALONE. BECAUSE OF HIM MY KIDS NEVER SPENT THE NIGHT AT FRIENDS HOMES. MUCH LESS FAMILY. BECAUSE I FIGURED IF MY OWN BROTHER WOULD DO THIS TO ME WHAT COULD I EXPECT FROM INLAWS. BUT NOW I JUST SEE HIM HERE IN TOWN. AND HE KNOWS WHAT HE DID ONCE HE ASKED ME FOR A FAVOR. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS. ? SO CONFRONTING SOMEONE DOESN'T ALWAYS HELP. IT DIDN'T HELP ME. BUT WHEN I TOLD HIS WIFE SHE SAID I WAS LYING. I DIDN'T EXPECT HIM TO ADMITT WHAT HE DID. BUT JUST SAYING WE WERE PLAYING WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. WHEN I SEE HIM WITH HIS GRANDKIDS IT HURTS MY STOMACH. I JUST HOPE HE ISN'T DOING ANYTHING TO THEM.  

MY HUSBAND AND KIDS HAVE BEEN GOOD SINCE I TOLD HIM. I HAD TO TELL ME KIDS WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY MOM NEVER TALKED TO HER BROTHER AND MY HUSBAND WHY DIDN'T WE SEE MY BROTHER.   

DIANNE  

   

 

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