Topic : How I Got Help

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October 27, 2006, 8:29 am PDT

Daughter 7 goes into uncontrollable rages

My daughter(over the years), has been to phycholigists, phychiatrists, neoroligists, The cody Center, mt.Sinani,  and diagnosed by several school panals.  Since they can't figure out what she truley has, she has been labeled "Other Health Impaired".  We tried Risperadol, ritalin , concerta but to noa aval these meds did not help.  We are currently tying a holistic approach and working with a chiropractor who follwas a holistic appraoch and is convinced it "MAY BE ALLERGIES".  His wife also a chiropractor and nutricianist does the NAET therapy and feels this will help.  Has anyone ever used this and heard of any feedback on the NAET therapy. Any Info that cold help would be greatly appreciated.

 

She flys off the handle at anything that upsepts her and most things do.  She physically attacts her brothre, teachers and anyone in her way.  She picks up heavy object and throw them.  She says inappropriate things and if angry will wish horrific things happen to you.  She becomes angry when around unfamiliar children and say things liike she's stupid, ugly, disgusting, etc.  She has one friend and the mother thinks we aren't doing enough to disipline her.  I think that we are but it just isn't working.

 

The other side of her is charming, amusing, delightful intelligent, extremely cute and caring.  These are very far and few though. 

 

I have exhausted all the sources that I know of.  Any help would Help thank you

 
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October 30, 2006, 3:21 am PST

Hi......

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My daughter(over the years), has been to phycholigists, phychiatrists, neoroligists, The cody Center, mt.Sinani,  and diagnosed by several school panals.  Since they can't figure out what she truley has, she has been labeled "Other Health Impaired".  We tried Risperadol, ritalin , concerta but to noa aval these meds did not help.  We are currently tying a holistic approach and working with a chiropractor who follwas a holistic appraoch and is convinced it "MAY BE ALLERGIES".  His wife also a chiropractor and nutricianist does the NAET therapy and feels this will help.  Has anyone ever used this and heard of any feedback on the NAET therapy. Any Info that cold help would be greatly appreciated.

 

She flys off the handle at anything that upsepts her and most things do.  She physically attacts her brothre, teachers and anyone in her way.  She picks up heavy object and throw them.  She says inappropriate things and if angry will wish horrific things happen to you.  She becomes angry when around unfamiliar children and say things liike she's stupid, ugly, disgusting, etc.  She has one friend and the mother thinks we aren't doing enough to disipline her.  I think that we are but it just isn't working.

 

The other side of her is charming, amusing, delightful intelligent, extremely cute and caring.  These are very far and few though. 

 

I have exhausted all the sources that I know of.  Any help would Help thank you

There is light at the end of the tunnel.  Your distription described my baby who is now 17 years old,  off all medications,  who sits on National Honor Society. 

 

Heather was a premie...born in Montreal. Quebec Canada.  As a young mother who obeyed and who listened to my childs doctor.  Being an American outr of the country away from all sorts of support I was sacared,  and never had to deal with such a tramatic event ever.  My kid's lung collaped.  Tubes were inserted into her small 5 pound frame without medications.  Enter neo natal unit for 14 days of buzzers plastic,  shots teams of Neuraligts and no sleep.  I was up all these days  I was at one hospital  where my daughter was transferred to the Jewish General Hospital. Her weight dropped down to 3 pounds...She became jaundice..at the staff seemed impending doom lingered over my babie.  Last rites with the priest accross the street were given.

 

I know prayers turned her condition around.  This child was a fighter from the get go.  Eventually when she regained her weight to 5 pounds she was released.  I was still sore from my c section but this day was a good day.  When she came home she screamed for 20 hours of the day around the clock.  Any formula I gave her she rejected.  Diaper rash needed special yellow medication and no matter what I did to comfort this child nothing worked.

 
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October 30, 2006, 3:34 am PST

Part Duex....

This behavior was trying expecially since I had a daughter who was three years older.  My daughters doctors  ALL OF THEM  put a negative diagnios on her.  Claiming she would be learning disabled,  may not walk,  speak..etc etc you get the picture right?  So of course if a team of Doctors say so it has to be true  they were smarter and what was I?  Someone at the time just finished HS and that is all......I believed every word.  I moved back to the STATES with my family  with a child at 2 didnt sit up  did not make eye contact,  SCREAMED, Just wanted the basics  fed,  changed and no touching.  Just wanted to be left alone.  She became heavier and I had black circles under my eyes but this was my child and so there began my search.  Handicapped pre school became involved.  Years went on. and her first visit to a phychriast.  This is where Ritalin was introduced.  In school I heard how "sloppy" her hand writing was  and she became from the get go Handicapped labeled.  Many years went by with her being tricked to take her "happy Pills"  The reason they were called that was because at some point  this gave her some slight focus and made us all happy.

 

I found a great Dr after numerous others who wanted to look at the whole picture from birth to the age 11.  He wanted to know what she ate,  drank and everything I just described.  He is located at CHILDRENS SPECIALED HOSPITAL IN TOMS RIVER. NJ  Dr. Rugenio  didnt like to have children on any medication  however introduced Risperdal; as well as Concerta.  Slowly after seeing him and my daughter reluctant now taking her Happy pills together as a team weened her off her medication.  I am not sure was it the combonation of a great doctor,  a willing child  or the age of growing out of her "disablitie"?  She is that Sweet daughter who at times can be moody like all of us.  She is wonderful and perfect even if at the beginning and middle was hard...It was worth the love and follow thru.....S

 
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November 8, 2006, 1:02 pm PST

there is hope!!

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I'm writing in hopes that someone somewhere can help my sister!!  My baby sister is now 21 years old.  In recent weeks she has attempted to kill her self numerous times.  She was in a county beavioral hospital for one week.  While in there she told me that it was the safest she has felt in a long time.  During one of our visits she informed me that she was hearing voices.  The psychiatrist in that hospital only spoke to my sister for 4-5 min at a time once a day (if she was lucky).  His response to her voices...a pill that takes an hour to kick in.  No therapy, no advise, NOTHING.  My sister is showing signs of schizophrenia and is TERRIFIED.  As a family we are lost as to how to help.  We sit back and hope that she won't give in to the voices when they tell her to hurt herself but just yesterday she tried to drown herself in the pool and when my mom got her out said..."i'm sorry...He told me to".  My sister has no insurance and because of her mental state can't hold a job to buy insurance.  The county sent her home after an attack of the voices sent the police to my mom's house.  There is no help in sight!!  I'm desprate, my family is desprate and most of all my sister is scared and desprate!!!  If there is anyone that can help us please respond!  I can't watch my sister die!
hello,i am new to the bard but i wanted to tell you i can empathize-i myself have heard voices and had visual hallucinations too sometimes both at the same time.it took me almost ten years to get stable and find the right meds(i currently take 150mgs clozaril,75mgs trazodone,.5mgs of xanx 4 times a day,60mgs cymbalta)i have done reaserch on clozaril and it is the only drug out there known to effectively reduce suicidal thoughts and actions in schizophrenic and schizoaffective patients.before i got stable i tried to kill myself numerous times and was hospitalized too many times to count.-and i finally got a doctor that would get real!!!i ahve had shock treatments in the past(20 to 30 i think)but after a while they just weren't helping anymore.my advice to you is to try and get your sister on ssdi and get medicare or medicaid.i will be happy to answer any questions you have and oi hope things improve for both of you-don't forget you have to take care of youself too-so you can be strong,i hope you have family or a friend that supports you-God bless-ALI
 
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November 14, 2006, 6:45 pm PST

How I overcame depression

I fell into this by accident actually. I was hospitalized last year for the final time. After I was released I stopped taking the anti-depressants Effexor XR and Wellbutrin. They started me on Lexapro while I was in the hospital instead of the Effexor and Wellbutrin. Anyway, a very pecular thing happened. I actually became myself again once I stopped taking all anti-depressants. I noticed that the drugs actually were causing my depression as I have been on several in the last eight and one half to nine years. I continued with this and as of today I have not taken anti-depressants for several months except when I conducted my own experiment which proved the drugs made me depressed. I then cut down on the Seroquel then stopping it all together which was originally given to me for the insomnia that I believe was caused by the anti-depressants. Now all I take is half of a 10 mg tablet of Ambien and Prevacid for acid reflux. Now I am working on my weight and I maintain my mood very well. I feel that my problem wasn't dealt with in the way that Dr. Phil would have handled it. I know now that only you can help yourself. Sometimes you don't need a pill to deal with your life. What you need to do is address what is causing you to feel the way you do. I believe it is that simple.
 
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November 26, 2006, 7:50 pm PST

please help!!!

i am writing in regards to my wife we are a young married couple (under 25) with kids. although we love each other very much we are constantly under alot of stress and pressure due to all of our "early" responsibility. to make matters worse my wife is depressed and she has been told in the past that she has bi-polar dissorder.  she had a rough childhood and even rougher teenage years she has had some bad experencies with doctors and is not very trusting in them nor am i for that matter. doctors only want to solve problems with pills or medication my wife and many others i know have had nothing but bad experinces with "head meds" and we really are not at alll interested in them.  since my wife had our first child she has started having auditory and visual hallucinations. although they are infrequent i find this to be alarming.  my wife says that we shouldnt worry about it and it will go away but i think that any health problem can only get worse if left unchecked.  i finally got her to seek some kind of help with me by her side this time and not all alonebut we dont know where for help.  we dont have alot of money and the more we look the more it seems that help is only out there for thoes who can aford to pay for it. we really dont know what to do at this point. we know that the right kind of help is out there does anyone know where it is?!?!? please email us if you have any suggestions on where and what kind of help we can get for free or at reduced cost at williewonkablock@yahoo.com our family thanks you for any help you can offer on this matter.

 
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November 27, 2006, 6:51 am PST

Hi....

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i am writing in regards to my wife we are a young married couple (under 25) with kids. although we love each other very much we are constantly under alot of stress and pressure due to all of our "early" responsibility. to make matters worse my wife is depressed and she has been told in the past that she has bi-polar dissorder.  she had a rough childhood and even rougher teenage years she has had some bad experencies with doctors and is not very trusting in them nor am i for that matter. doctors only want to solve problems with pills or medication my wife and many others i know have had nothing but bad experinces with "head meds" and we really are not at alll interested in them.  since my wife had our first child she has started having auditory and visual hallucinations. although they are infrequent i find this to be alarming.  my wife says that we shouldnt worry about it and it will go away but i think that any health problem can only get worse if left unchecked.  i finally got her to seek some kind of help with me by her side this time and not all alonebut we dont know where for help.  we dont have alot of money and the more we look the more it seems that help is only out there for thoes who can aford to pay for it. we really dont know what to do at this point. we know that the right kind of help is out there does anyone know where it is?!?!? please email us if you have any suggestions on where and what kind of help we can get for free or at reduced cost at williewonkablock@yahoo.com our family thanks you for any help you can offer on this matter.

Your a very kind husband who really loves his wife.

 

Your wife sounds so much like me......I had 3 babies by the time I was 28 years old.  I have had simalar experiences  and diagnosis and thougts about the "head meds" too.

 

First what has worked for me was typing out my feelings on DR PHILS DEPRESSION BOARD....

 

I did this faithfully and daily for nearly a year...Please have your wife go and take the first steps.  She will get kind and compassion (OTHER) support from people going thru depression  and will be able to dump whats going on in her head without judgement.

 

2.  I totally understand about the help thing with limited $  etc.....My advice would to call your local hospital and ask to speak to the social work dept.  Advise them of your situation  and in every county and State  there are satalite offices  which the states  offer sliding scale fees  NOT BEING on welfare  which the State you live in gets funding  and by law which must help people just in your situation.

 

3.  I feel your wife is very wise to "not be labeled"  however be open to all possiblties as to what the professional may or may not say to her.  I truly truly understand how hurtful and shameful these things feel   and add to the mix  babies and stress of due bills it makes for just ugly feelings and helplessness....

 

There is help  and hope  and If I can completely turn my life around..now looking back at age 42  and so very happy  you and her can too....

 

 

If there is anything else I can help you with please ask..

 

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January 8, 2007, 10:44 am PST

Recovered Memory - Maybe closer to its roots

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To find what I have previously written go to the same headings as here but in the archived area. Most of what I have previously written is under my entry of 1/25/2005. 

  

I had planned to add to my previous writings here at the end of last summer. Although I had other reasons (like work to do on a much needed major kitchen update), the deciding factor for me was the natural disasters at the end of last summer. Like most people I was appalled by what happened to so many ordinary good people as a result of the hurricanes last year. I felt adding my problems to the mix would not be helpful. I wish the best for all who suffered such undeserved losses. 

  

This new system asks about emotions. My answer is I have a good life, yet I fear much about this problem of mine. Because I have a good life, I feel I have a lot to loose from this problem. My husband and I have been married longer than Dr. Phil and Robin. We have chosen the type of life we want. We are not wealthy but have worked hard for and enjoy our own modest version of the Amreican Dream. I believe good help with my problem would have made our lives better. But, I also feel forunate that I did not allow the mental health profession or anyone else to do more damage in my life because of this problem. Misguided professional help (remember the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior) could have added marriage and family problems, financial problems, even substance abuse (the only substance abuse problem I have, which I have struggled with my whole life, is food) to this problem for me. 

  

On one show Dr. Phil talked about the power of individual choice. I think one of the reasons my husband and I are doing well is because we try hard to make good choices. I think the biggest challenge with this problem is for me to make good choices about it. 

  

I doubt most mental health progessionals have experience, training, etc. to help me make good choices about this problem. For example my second counselor suggested my problem could have something to do with my parents. (Would he have asked such a question of a combat veteran or natural disaster survivor?) Could this type of professional thinking lead to a psycholigical witch hunt through my family and my past while missing the real problem? This counselor also suggested medication for my problem. He did not seem to realize that I have a long standing decision not to use medications. I believe this dedision has helped me avoid the substance abuse problems frequently associated with this type of problem. I can  think of other ways a mental health  professional could add to my problems. But my point here is that under the appearance of competent professional help a mental health professional could, and probably would again if I let him or her, add to my problems. 

  

What most mental health professionals do not understand about my problem is that a good part of it is not about me. It is about this high profile criminal. This criminal was a serial killer who had a well documented history of shenanigans. The public will probabaly be interested in what was apparently another one of this thoroughly disgusting killer's shenangans. I do not know how to begin to deal with this. I doubt many other ordinary people including most mental health professionals would know either.  

  

There is a lot of content to my story. Therefore I can pick and choose what I write here. So here are a few more things I will say about it. 

  

When I started analyzing my recovered memory it was easy to focus on one portion of it. The term "stranger stalking" and/or mind games seemed to describe what I remembered in this portion. I believe this portion is the core of my recovered memory problem. This portion of my recovered memory I place in the "probably true" category because, to the best of my knowledge, this killer was there. 

  

One interesting point is that my husband's and my oldest child, a son and the only child we had at that time, has the same first name as this killer. It is possible this killer knew this. Like I said, my problem probably has more to do with this killer than anything about me. 

  

A major portion of my recovered memory story deals with a law enforcement investigation. (This is not the law enforcement problem I was referring to in a previous entry.) I put this part  of my recovered memory story int the "maybe true" category. The idea is that law enforcement had identified me as being in close proximity to this killer and I was questioned as part of their routine investigation. I am not sure that I have recovered all of this part of the story but what I have recovered I can only describe as unprecedented. I can make some arguments that this actually happened. I do not think even Hollywood could come up with a story like this one. If it is not true it would probably make great fiction! 

  

My husband gasped when I explained to him some of the things this type of criminals do to their victims. One of Dr. Phil's favorite metaphors, "This is an eat what you kill world," make me wonder if even the very knowledgeable Dr. Phil understands this type of criminal. Enough said on this aspect of my problem. 

  

Dr. Phil talks about his Minimal Effective Response. Although I tend to be good at problem solving, I can not think of a Minimal Effectrive Response that I think will work for me for this problem. For me, dealing with this problem is like walking through a mine field created by this bottom of the pile dirt bag. I fear if I make a wrong move something will explode causing more damage. I have considered trying to simply purge this from my life but I do not think this is a wise option. 

  

After the failure of my second counseling attempt I started thinking about the options I have to deal with my problem. I decided Dr. Phil might have what it takes to deal with my problem. But, I still worry about my problem's melt down potential. Therefore I have broken it into smaller pieces to hopefully make it easier for everyone to deal with. What I think I need is for Dr. Phil to help me make good decisions about how to deal withe the after effects of this nauseating (for me literally) predator on my life. Therefore I will be putting a letter in the mail to Dr. Phill soon. 

  

  

I previously wrote that there is a lot I can write here. But this is something I probably should write about here. But be aware this is a certain amount of speculation on my part so the connections I make may not be valid.

 

This is to answer a question that I recall being asked within my recovered memory. The answer is from my regular memory. As I wrote before I have recovered memory of being questioned by an investigator about this criminal. One of the questions I remember this investigator asking me was where I picked this guy (meaning stalker) up.

 

At that time I had very little understanding of what this investigator was talking about. The investigator wanted to know about any parties I had attended. He thought a party might be a good place to pick up a stalker. I told him the only parties I could remember attending were Tupperware. I am not what you would call a party girl. We both realized a Tupperware party was not where I picked this guy up. (Don't worry Tupperware parties are usually safe.)

 

Although I did not obsess about it, for a long time I had no answer to this question. Then all of a suddden one day it struck me. I made a connection between the stalking and a discomfort I had had at my place of employment about three years before the stalking.

 

That discomfort was sharing an office with a man I will call Fred. Fred is not his real name. When I was first placed in the office with Fred there were some problems. But those problems were worked out. After that Fred and I got along fine. We were even friendly although I was never really comfortable around him.

 

I feel fortunate I had a different work assignment than Fred's work assignment. That is because Fred was not a productive employee. Other employees had to deal with Fred's lack of productivity. Eventually Fred ended up out of a job. It seems like that should have been the end of my story about Fred.

 

But early in my relationship with Fred I had a suspicion about him that I never heard anyone at work even hint about let alone discuss. That suspicion was that Fred was running a pornography business on the side. I remember during that time telling several people close to me outside of work my suspicion. Thinking back now I recall Fred had a few people, not many, who I did not know in our office on a regular basis. I now believe those people were connected to his pornography business, not his assigned work.

 

I now understand that sexual predator type people are oftern consumers of pornography. Therefore sharing an office with Fred, because of the pornography, may have created an exposure for me to some sexual predator type people. Also Fred was in a good position to give any of these people personal information about me like my name, address, marital status, etc. Therefore, sharing my work office with Fred may have created a good opporturity for me to pick up a sexual predator stranger type stalker.

 

Even more speculative is the idea that Fred, becuase of loosing his job, was probably a seriously disgruntled former employee. My employer did have some good security measures in place to protect employees. Could Fred have manipulated a friend into targeting me as an easy prey in vengeance against my employer?

 

One strange incident I recall seems to be consistent with this idea. I recall hearing loud voices as another coworker I will call Bill (again not his real name) confronted Fred about his unfinished work. Then Fred came into our office as Bill was apparently in our bosses office discussing Fred's lack of productivity. Fred and I were alone together in our office. Fred in a business like manor picked up the telephone book and started looking through it. Then he called what I understood to be a lonely hearts or match making service. (This was before the Internet took over such functions.) But Fred did not give this service his own information. No, he gave them Bill's name and Bill;s address and telephone number from the telephone book. Because he was married, Bill would not have been pleased with contact from a lonely hearts or match making service. Bill's wife would probably have been even less pleased. That is probably exactly what Fred wanted.

 

At the time I shared the office with Fred our work group was located very close to the offices of the top people in our organization. I did not observe much interaction between the top people in our organization and Fred. But the interaction I did observe made me believe that the top people in our organization were uninformed about people like Fred. I think that now our society knows more about people like Fred than we did back then.

 

I never saw Fred again after he left our organization. I have been taught not to spread rumors but I think this is interesting. After Fred left our organization I occasionally heard reports about him from other people. All of these reports made Fred sound like a man in a downward spiral. The last report I heard said Fred was in prison. Thinking about it, that was no surprise.

 

This is the best answer I have to the question of where I picked up this guy.

 

 

 
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January 30, 2007, 3:34 am PST

We need therapy but can't afford any suggestions

Hi, I am a family of 4, Husband, daughter 12, son 8 and myself (wife).  I am 41yr and have had several hospitilizations since 2003.  I have had 3 heart attacks, also have chrons disease.  My doctors now have all of this under control and I have not been in the hospital for two years.  I am coping with my diseases and no longer depressed by them.  My husband takes the upper hand to discipline in the house.  But to some degree I think too much.  Hes a big time yeller, I can not control this nor can I change this.  My children are afraid to even try to talk with him about important issues.  My son states that he is just scared of his dad.  My son has been having problems with getting his work done in school (just refuses to do it at times).  He has been diagnosed with ADHD and is on meds that are working for him.  No more complaints from the school. He had been tested by the school pyschologist for learning or behavioral problems.  The pyschologist just informed me that my son is overly worried and it is the cause of his problems with school.  His worry is about me and my chronic illnesses.  I feel my family could benefit from therapy but insurance will not cover this.  Any ideas?
 
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February 3, 2007, 5:38 am PST

How I Got Help

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Hi, I am a family of 4, Husband, daughter 12, son 8 and myself (wife).  I am 41yr and have had several hospitilizations since 2003.  I have had 3 heart attacks, also have chrons disease.  My doctors now have all of this under control and I have not been in the hospital for two years.  I am coping with my diseases and no longer depressed by them.  My husband takes the upper hand to discipline in the house.  But to some degree I think too much.  Hes a big time yeller, I can not control this nor can I change this.  My children are afraid to even try to talk with him about important issues.  My son states that he is just scared of his dad.  My son has been having problems with getting his work done in school (just refuses to do it at times).  He has been diagnosed with ADHD and is on meds that are working for him.  No more complaints from the school. He had been tested by the school pyschologist for learning or behavioral problems.  The pyschologist just informed me that my son is overly worried and it is the cause of his problems with school.  His worry is about me and my chronic illnesses.  I feel my family could benefit from therapy but insurance will not cover this.  Any ideas?

I am surprised that your health plan doesn't cover mental health issues.  If they don't, you can always go to your local mental health agency in your city and get counseling there.  They are also able to help you with meds if you need them.  You might want to call United Way, explain the situation and ask them to give you some alternatives because of your insurance.  If you are below the national average in wages, you can also go to the local FIA (Medicaid center) and see if you qualify for health insurance, food stamps, and even a stipend for each month.

 

I am glad to see that you recognize that you cannot change your husband, and I hope that you do not think of yourself as having less authority because of his anger issues.  I woud encourage you to seek out counseling in whatever avenue you can find.  Your son sounds like he is very frightened of the fact that you may die.  I think that is a natural fear for that age group, and I remember being very scared that my mom was going to die when I was 8.  While he is going through this period, reassure him that he doesn't need to be worried because the drs are doing all they can to get you healthy.  Most schools will offer to provide counseling.  You just need to take initiative and ask if that is possible for him for a while.  He does need someone he can talk to who will listen and give him support.  If they do not feel comfortable in providing counseling, then that also can be taken care of in your local mental health agency.  Let me know how things go with him and with you.  I am glad that the drs have it under control now, and glad to hear that things are doing better now.  Do you approach your husband and try to tell him that his discipline isn't working with the kids?  I hope that you can talk to him and have him listen without feeling like he is being reprimanded or put down.  I hope also that you can get the help you need to deal with your son.  I would talk to your daughter also.  She might just be repressing her feelings and would need a safe place to talk about her fears.  If she is like my daughter, she holds everything inside, and says to herself that her problems are so petty compared to other girls her age.  If you need help, and don't know what to do, give me your city and state and I will post some links you can use to help you obtain some good all family counseling.

 

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