Topic : How I Got Help

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September 10, 2007, 1:12 pm PDT

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Okay this is my first  post on here. So I don't know if this is the right place to post. Recently I attempted suicide. They put in the mental health hospital. They diagnosed me with depression. But the thing I'm wondering is when am I going to start feeling at least a little better? I have a few hours in a week that I'm actually happy. But then wham I'm down again. And not just down. I'm bawling and cutting and wanting to really die again. I don't know what to do. I'm in therapy and taking medication. I'm just afraid that I'm going to do it again. :( HELP!
 
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September 11, 2007, 7:30 am PDT

Re: How I Got Help

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Okay this is my first  post on here. So I don't know if this is the right place to post. Recently I attempted suicide. They put in the mental health hospital. They diagnosed me with depression. But the thing I'm wondering is when am I going to start feeling at least a little better? I have a few hours in a week that I'm actually happy. But then wham I'm down again. And not just down. I'm bawling and cutting and wanting to really die again. I don't know what to do. I'm in therapy and taking medication. I'm just afraid that I'm going to do it again. :( HELP!

Although right now it is difficult or next to impossible to believe, there really is hope.  If you just started your meds while in the hospital, you may not feel them kick-in for up to six weeks.  A very long six weeks for you, but try to challenge yourself to make it.  Also, it might (or might not) take a little while to find the right medicine or combination of medications (often referred to as a "cocktail" of meds) in order to get yourself back to "normal" and be stable there.  I tell you this, not to discourage you, but 1) to be honest about what could be in store and 2) to hopefully give you hope that there IS help and lots of it.  Another key is to be sure you feel absolutely comfortable with your mental health care providers...people you trust and feel completely comfortable being down-to-the-core honest telling them exactly what you're feeling and issues you need to deal with.  Throughout my treatment for major depression, I have had a few psychiatrists and feel very blessed to have found the one (psychiatrist) who fits my personality and what I need to a T.  He is wonderful and it hurts me (really!) that everyone who suffers from the depths of depression pain can't see this man.  He's wonderful.  He knows A LOT about medication.  He will not over-medicate.  He listens to you whole-heartedly.  Where do you find an MD who cares this much for his patients? 

Also, if you are not comfortable with your current therapist, I recommend looking for a social worker.  This was huge for me.  They have SO MANY resources in the community who can also help you.

I know this sounds like a lot of work.  I hope I'm not being overwhelming.  They say take it "day by day", but sometimes it's better to begin with minute-by-minute and work yourself up. 

I really hope I have been encouraging and have not scared you.  From personal experience, which is all I have to offer, it has been a very, very long road for me (many hospitalizations, etc.).  The hope I have to offer is that even in the depths of pain and suicide attempts, there was fight in me.  I did not want to die, I wanted to find a reason(s) to live and that's why I have come so far.  I realize when you're that low, it's next to impossible to find anything to want to live for, but by you're not being successful in your attempt, you and God (no offense intended) want to give you another chance...and perhaps more than one chance.  But keep in mind, you have people like me who care.  Reach out when you want to.  HANG ON!!

God Bless You,

Ellen

(PS  I'm a Christian, but not a religioius freak so please don't feel threatened or uncomfortable with me.

 
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September 22, 2007, 5:11 am PDT

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   I have survived major depressions for years.  I edited the word "battled" out of that sentence because it is not something I have overcome,  I have been forced  to terms with it because it is always there. ( I will spare you the details) 

   My first episode sent me to the mental hospital, and the psyche tech informed me that I "wasn't as crazy as I felt.  That sent me off in a long fit of crying.  In those days, something that small would have that effect.   Nowadays, I force myself to start off with a realistic attitude and GET OUT of bed!  That isn't as easy as it sounds.  At first, that was all I could do.  Then I had to force myself to take my medication, shower, dress for my busy day,  do my hair, and tidy my bedroom.  Feed the goldfish.  Check the philodendrons.  

   It sounds a little odd that doing the everyday things will help, but that is how big battles are won--with a victorious little skirmish with yourself.         

 
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October 2, 2007, 2:44 pm PDT

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Although right now it is difficult or next to impossible to believe, there really is hope.  If you just started your meds while in the hospital, you may not feel them kick-in for up to six weeks.  A very long six weeks for you, but try to challenge yourself to make it.  Also, it might (or might not) take a little while to find the right medicine or combination of medications (often referred to as a "cocktail" of meds) in order to get yourself back to "normal" and be stable there.  I tell you this, not to discourage you, but 1) to be honest about what could be in store and 2) to hopefully give you hope that there IS help and lots of it.  Another key is to be sure you feel absolutely comfortable with your mental health care providers...people you trust and feel completely comfortable being down-to-the-core honest telling them exactly what you're feeling and issues you need to deal with.  Throughout my treatment for major depression, I have had a few psychiatrists and feel very blessed to have found the one (psychiatrist) who fits my personality and what I need to a T.  He is wonderful and it hurts me (really!) that everyone who suffers from the depths of depression pain can't see this man.  He's wonderful.  He knows A LOT about medication.  He will not over-medicate.  He listens to you whole-heartedly.  Where do you find an MD who cares this much for his patients? 

Also, if you are not comfortable with your current therapist, I recommend looking for a social worker.  This was huge for me.  They have SO MANY resources in the community who can also help you.

I know this sounds like a lot of work.  I hope I'm not being overwhelming.  They say take it "day by day", but sometimes it's better to begin with minute-by-minute and work yourself up. 

I really hope I have been encouraging and have not scared you.  From personal experience, which is all I have to offer, it has been a very, very long road for me (many hospitalizations, etc.).  The hope I have to offer is that even in the depths of pain and suicide attempts, there was fight in me.  I did not want to die, I wanted to find a reason(s) to live and that's why I have come so far.  I realize when you're that low, it's next to impossible to find anything to want to live for, but by you're not being successful in your attempt, you and God (no offense intended) want to give you another chance...and perhaps more than one chance.  But keep in mind, you have people like me who care.  Reach out when you want to.  HANG ON!!

God Bless You,

Ellen

(PS  I'm a Christian, but not a religioius freak so please don't feel threatened or uncomfortable with me.

bonomac i know how u feel because my bestfriend was like that and i hope that you get better ok and dr.phil i want to tell you that you are the best and that you rock
 
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October 5, 2007, 4:24 pm PDT

Get help for Assault in the US Army in the 90's.

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bonomac i know how u feel because my bestfriend was like that and i hope that you get better ok and dr.phil i want to tell you that you are the best and that you rock
I am retired from the US Army in 1994.  I have been a disable vet since 1992.   In March of 1992 I reported to my Squad Leader that I was assaulted by my roomate.  He had me wait to see the medical and MPS until Monday two days later.  I waited and them went to the aid station were they found bruises on my body , bumps on my head and anal bleeding. My First Sargent and Commander had me and my assalant stand before them were they told me that me and my assalant would still live together and work out our differences.  I was getting a phsychatric eval in Soul Korea a day later.   I was hospitalized becuase I was upset over the assault.  I was druged and sent back to the states were I was hospitalized at Great Lakes Naval Hospital.  I was rased dosage on Lithium until I stopped talking about the assault.   My releasing doctor ruled that I had PTSD from a possible Sexual Assault in Korea.  The Army said Bi Polar.  I went home to my father's funeral because he committed Suicide.   My  home town veterans officer saw the two conflicting diagnosises and ordered a Congressional Investigation into lude acts of initiations into my platoon.   Senator Herb Kohl got sworn witnesses to the initiations  and my E-6 squad leader before he was read his article 31 rights said that before I went to the hospital I was assaulted by my roomate.  This statement retired me from service but to this day the Wisconsin VA will not and refuse to look at the congressional investagation and the complete US Army medical record.  They say by doing this they are protecting the veteran.  I did not see charges broght on my roomate.  If I was a woman and had this evedence do you think he would be free?   Don't worry I have the congressional investigation and the complete medical record with audio tapes of the hearing in my safety deposit box.  My Question To You Dr Pill Do You Think The Investigation and The US Army Medical Record Should Be In The VA With My VA Medical Record And Could All My Records Be Useful In VA Treating Me For PTSD?
 
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October 8, 2007, 9:07 pm PDT

HOW DO I HELP THIS KID?

This is on YOUTUBE and needless to say, I do not know what their location is or I would have called CPS myself! I am contacting a few organizations to see what they can do.....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=370sMbl7_Ao&NR=1

 
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October 9, 2007, 7:27 am PDT

What is the name of the the Texas doc on the show?

 Does anyone know the name of the doctor on Dr. Phil's show that he sends guests to for help with diagnosing physical or brain problems ...he sits in the front row...dr. phil has worked with him for over 30 years...

Please help! I have a friend who desperately needs help and his doctors are at a loss...
 
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October 9, 2007, 8:05 am PDT

name of the the Texas doc

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 Does anyone know the name of the doctor on Dr. Phil's show that he sends guests to for help with diagnosing physical or brain problems ...he sits in the front row...dr. phil has worked with him for over 30 years...

Please help! I have a friend who desperately needs help and his doctors are at a loss...
That would be Dr. Frank Lawlis

His website: http://www.lawlispeavey.com
 
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November 10, 2007, 9:47 am PST

Was no saviour for me

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Although right now it is difficult or next to impossible to believe, there really is hope.  If you just started your meds while in the hospital, you may not feel them kick-in for up to six weeks.  A very long six weeks for you, but try to challenge yourself to make it.  Also, it might (or might not) take a little while to find the right medicine or combination of medications (often referred to as a "cocktail" of meds) in order to get yourself back to "normal" and be stable there.  I tell you this, not to discourage you, but 1) to be honest about what could be in store and 2) to hopefully give you hope that there IS help and lots of it.  Another key is to be sure you feel absolutely comfortable with your mental health care providers...people you trust and feel completely comfortable being down-to-the-core honest telling them exactly what you're feeling and issues you need to deal with.  Throughout my treatment for major depression, I have had a few psychiatrists and feel very blessed to have found the one (psychiatrist) who fits my personality and what I need to a T.  He is wonderful and it hurts me (really!) that everyone who suffers from the depths of depression pain can't see this man.  He's wonderful.  He knows A LOT about medication.  He will not over-medicate.  He listens to you whole-heartedly.  Where do you find an MD who cares this much for his patients? 

Also, if you are not comfortable with your current therapist, I recommend looking for a social worker.  This was huge for me.  They have SO MANY resources in the community who can also help you.

I know this sounds like a lot of work.  I hope I'm not being overwhelming.  They say take it "day by day", but sometimes it's better to begin with minute-by-minute and work yourself up. 

I really hope I have been encouraging and have not scared you.  From personal experience, which is all I have to offer, it has been a very, very long road for me (many hospitalizations, etc.).  The hope I have to offer is that even in the depths of pain and suicide attempts, there was fight in me.  I did not want to die, I wanted to find a reason(s) to live and that's why I have come so far.  I realize when you're that low, it's next to impossible to find anything to want to live for, but by you're not being successful in your attempt, you and God (no offense intended) want to give you another chance...and perhaps more than one chance.  But keep in mind, you have people like me who care.  Reach out when you want to.  HANG ON!!

God Bless You,

Ellen

(PS  I'm a Christian, but not a religioius freak so please don't feel threatened or uncomfortable with me.

 You must belong to the group of people who actually do have some biochemical imbalance if medication actually did anything positive for you. Personally deciding to take the medications was the single biggest mistake of my life. Depression cannot be lumped into one basket and labelled a biochemical imbalance because it is not always the case even though psych organisations preach that it is.

 

Unless you have a crystal ball it is not possible to know what a human's serotonin level actually is. There is no scientific test to even tell you. It is a theory that applies to a  portion of people who suffer depressive symptoms but it is always quoted as absolute fact. If you raise the serotonin level of someone with no imbalance it will cause suicidal ideation. After 7 days of taking Zoloft I was inexplicably suicidal. I had not been even close to that before taking it.But instead of recognising this as the adverse reaction it was, the shrink doubled the dose , added Melleril and admitted me to hospital. Over 8 yrs ,four different psychiatrists, being put on every conceivable antidepressant (SSRI,SNRI,TCA,MAOs produced before 2006)  antipsychotics, Lithium, ECT (>80 times) , > 100 admissions to hospital and absolutely no counselling or psychotherapy during that time , I found myself deteriorating with every hour of every day. I was obese ( used to be underweight)from the medications and could barely walk due to the Parkinsonian symptoms the antipsychotics produced. I could also not string a sentence together anymore. I was dying.

 

 Whilst on a holiday in the USA April 2004 , the penny dropped. If I didn't get off these meds I was going to die. They had not improved my life in any way. I tipped the Clozaril down the toilet and began weaning the rest of the meds over a six month period. Yes I suffered the physical withdrawal which is often called ' relapse' and it passed. Between April and December 2004 I had weaned off the two antipsychotics , valium and lost 40kg (77lbs). It took much longer to wean off the maximum dose of Effexor XR another six months.However, I finally got the counselling and psychotherapy never before offered or recommended to me. I have been off meds for 3 yrs. I am back at work in my former profession and do not suffer from depression at all. It never came back and it never will because psychotherapy gave me the tools to deal with the psychological burdens I was carrying. I shocked my final psychiatrist with my sudden recovery and he was gob smacked to know it came from weaning of the meds and getting the right help. He had labelled me as ' treatment resistant'. Only problem was the treatment wasn't the right one.

 

The bottom line is do what ever works for you ( apart from alcohol and illicit drugs). Don't be trapped into to thinking that somehow , some day  ( after multiple changes in meds over an extended period of time) the meds will miraculously work and if they don't then you will never get better. Medication works for some but not all. Just as psychotherapy doesn't work for everyone. Make no assumptions. Your brain biochemistry is unique and not the same as the person standing next to you. So if what you are doing now still isn't working change what you are doing and it might just be the answer.

 
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November 10, 2007, 2:20 pm PST

How I Got Help

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 You must belong to the group of people who actually do have some biochemical imbalance if medication actually did anything positive for you. Personally deciding to take the medications was the single biggest mistake of my life. Depression cannot be lumped into one basket and labelled a biochemical imbalance because it is not always the case even though psych organisations preach that it is.

 

Unless you have a crystal ball it is not possible to know what a human's serotonin level actually is. There is no scientific test to even tell you. It is a theory that applies to a  portion of people who suffer depressive symptoms but it is always quoted as absolute fact. If you raise the serotonin level of someone with no imbalance it will cause suicidal ideation. After 7 days of taking Zoloft I was inexplicably suicidal. I had not been even close to that before taking it.But instead of recognising this as the adverse reaction it was, the shrink doubled the dose , added Melleril and admitted me to hospital. Over 8 yrs ,four different psychiatrists, being put on every conceivable antidepressant (SSRI,SNRI,TCA,MAOs produced before 2006)  antipsychotics, Lithium, ECT (>80 times) , > 100 admissions to hospital and absolutely no counselling or psychotherapy during that time , I found myself deteriorating with every hour of every day. I was obese ( used to be underweight)from the medications and could barely walk due to the Parkinsonian symptoms the antipsychotics produced. I could also not string a sentence together anymore. I was dying.

 

 Whilst on a holiday in the USA April 2004 , the penny dropped. If I didn't get off these meds I was going to die. They had not improved my life in any way. I tipped the Clozaril down the toilet and began weaning the rest of the meds over a six month period. Yes I suffered the physical withdrawal which is often called ' relapse' and it passed. Between April and December 2004 I had weaned off the two antipsychotics , valium and lost 40kg (77lbs). It took much longer to wean off the maximum dose of Effexor XR another six months.However, I finally got the counselling and psychotherapy never before offered or recommended to me. I have been off meds for 3 yrs. I am back at work in my former profession and do not suffer from depression at all. It never came back and it never will because psychotherapy gave me the tools to deal with the psychological burdens I was carrying. I shocked my final psychiatrist with my sudden recovery and he was gob smacked to know it came from weaning of the meds and getting the right help. He had labelled me as ' treatment resistant'. Only problem was the treatment wasn't the right one.

 

The bottom line is do what ever works for you ( apart from alcohol and illicit drugs). Don't be trapped into to thinking that somehow , some day  ( after multiple changes in meds over an extended period of time) the meds will miraculously work and if they don't then you will never get better. Medication works for some but not all. Just as psychotherapy doesn't work for everyone. Make no assumptions. Your brain biochemistry is unique and not the same as the person standing next to you. So if what you are doing now still isn't working change what you are doing and it might just be the answer.

Thank you! I was on every known anti depressant and  anti anxiety med several years ago, and had terrible side affects, including suicidal thoughts, homicidal thoughts, the depression and anxiety actually elevated for me. In fact, I was re-diagnosed because of that, and put on anti-psychotic meds. O, what a trip! Never want to take another; that was scary. I was on every one of those, too. Nothing worked positively for me.

I'm having extreme difficulty in overcoming the anxiety/depression due to abuse. My support people moved or died. For me, the chemical imbalance portion of depression was/is poor eating. I have to take vitamin b complex in order to get a lift. I also began taking potassium and that has curbed the anxiety.

However, I still struggle with anxiety and depression, due to sooo very much abuse that has been directed at me. I struggle with leaving my house to the point I just don't leave. I'm an Avon lady, and it has really put a damper on sales.

I came here for help, I'm not sure what to do any more.  I just started counseling again with a Christian counselor I know, because I know he won't try to co-erce me into taking meds.  I'm 40, on disability, in college and had to drop most of my classes again because of the stress.  I'm tired of being on disability, not having money, not being able to get motivated to get out. I'm chronically late for everything, and I know the root of that goes back to abuse (again, by many, many people besides the original family). I do not know how to break the cycle of abuse. I'm so afraid of failure, I'm not putting much an effort into anything I do anymore.  Almost everything I've tried, I've not done well, or have been put down for it, including in church. (now, that was ridiculous--I know it, but I cannot get past what has happened to me)

My family looks down on me, I'm the 'joke'. Because of poor choices I've made, and because i won't work. My main income is disability, and that's not much. My family members treat me as though I am lazy and do not want to work, and that just drives me nutso. I just had to humble myself and ask my father, main abuser for some financial assistance--AGAIN.  He doesn't give much, even though he has a lot. I can somewhat understand his reasoning; after all, to him, I LOOK like a loser, lay about good for nothing. In fact, I look like that to many people who do not have empathy or understanding. Heck, I look like that to myself, too. I do the best I can do every day, and most of the time I'm very disappointed in myself and the things I didn't accomplish.

I panic whenever I try to do something most of the time, whether it's put my Avon order together, make jewelry, wash the dishes, take a shower, etc. absolutely EVERYTHING causes me so much panic, and I do not know how to overcome this. As I said, I know it has to do with the abuse, and I have great fear in moving forward for fear that I am going to fail and/or get hurt again. I cannot go on like this; I need to finish my degree and get a job.

So what do I do?
 

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