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Topic : 07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

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Created on : Thursday, July 05, 2007, 02:34:20 pm
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Have you ever wanted to talk to your doctor about pressing medical concerns, but were too afraid to speak up? Today, four physicians with four different specialties return to bust medical myths and teach you things you never knew about your body. First up, 45-year-old Pamela has a paralyzing fear of physicians. She was diagnosed with a terminal lung disease six years ago and hasn't set foot in a doctor's office since. Find out what happens when Dr. Phil creates a makeshift exam room backstage! Then, Denise and her husband, Steve, have been trying to get pregnant for three years. Steve says he’s tired of sex being a business deal, but Denise desperately wants a baby. Should she keep trying to conceive or just move on with her life? And, having four kids wreaked havoc on Casey's body, and now she wants cosmetic surgery. Her husband, Jonathan, says a tummy tuck is too expensive, and thinks Casey can get in shape by doing more sit-ups. See Dr. Phil’s surprise for her! Plus, a couple who say their 9- and 15-year-old sons are still not potty trained! Tell us what you think!

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July 11, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: momsemi

Please tell the couple who are trying so hard to have a baby they need to relax, quit thinking about getting pregnant, and enjoy themselves.

 

When we were first married 48 years ago, we wanted to have children right away and since it didn't happen immediately, we began to stress about it and do whatever the medical community knew to do back in those days.  It did indeed sort of become a job.  We lived on a farm.  One of the ewes had twin lambs and wouldn't "own" one.  I began feeding it with a bottle, which had to be done on a regular schedule day and night.  Getting pregnant kind of went to the bottom of the list, as this sweet fluffy little orphan was depending on me for it's life.     The lamb gradually began to thrive and one morning as I was bending over to feed it, I noticed I was very nauseated.   This continued to get worse and lo and behold I found out I was pregnant.  My husband thinks feeding the lamb brought  out my maternal instinct.  I think just forgetting about trying so hard was what did the trick.  PS  The lamb lived on to have lambs of it's own.

 

 

That is the most annoying uneducated thing I've ever heard.  Infertility is a disease.  If you have cancer tell me how you would feel if someone told you to relax and it will go away.  How about visiting our message boards.  Our stories will make you cry. 
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July 11, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

Have Compassion

I watched Dr.Phill  on July 11th and can somewhat relate to two of the stories on the show. I have two children and had a hard time potty training the oldest (now 7). I believe that she has the same condition that the two boys have on the show. After taking her to the doctor (then age 5), my husband and I felt so bad that we punished our daughter for something that she couldn't help doing. We now know what to do: I give her laxatives when she gets to constipated, she takes fiber pills, has to be reminded to go to the restroom, we go on bike rides (this helps with the digestive system), and diet is a factor. It is hardly a problem now, but sometimes we still deal with this issue. I am so glad that we are not punishing her to the extent that we were and are making lifestyle changes to meet her and our needs.There was another segment about the lovely wife and mother that wanted a tummy tuck. I have almost the same issue, but it is not that bad. I lost 65 pounds after both of my pregnancy and I have a small frame of body. I am now 5'4 115 pounds and still have flab on my stomach that no amount of exercise can remove. I still exercise and am proud of my body battlescars and all. But, if I had the means, I would definatly have a tummy tuck. It is something I will always want, but do not need to be happy. By the way, my husband never makes fun of me, like this lady's husband did. He complements me everyday. She totally deserves a tummy tuck after four kids and being a good wife and mother. When she feels better about herself, her whole family will be affected. When Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. I hope this will encourage other people to not be so judgemental. And it makes me thankfull that things could be worst and people could judge you.

 
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July 11, 2007, 2:56 pm PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

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Nineteen yrs ago, my husband's mother was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer.  We had just recently married and thought "why not get pregnant and give his mom new hope to live for; a new grandbaby!"  Well, we tried and tried, we were both so stressed from our jobs and from her medical condition, I even went to have my husband's sperm count done!  The nurse called with the results and said "he should be strutting around like a peacock!".  I went back to my OB/GYN and he told me we were trying too hard and the stress in our lives would not produce a baby.  He suggested a vacation.  Unfortunately, my husband's mother passed in Feb 1988, but in May of 1988, after the funeral and an invitation to a wedding in Florida, we conceived and were the proud parents of a healthy baby boy.  He was born in February 1989 and is now 18 years old.  We didn't have as much stress in our lives and fortunately had another healthy baby girl in February of 1991!  Stress can really mess with our bodies.  I'm living proof to take Dr. Masterson's advice and RELAX!!!!!  Let it happen, it's one of those things you cannot force.  Let mother nature do her work, it will happen.

I'm glad you were able to conceive, but your few months are nothing compared to us
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July 11, 2007, 2:56 pm PDT

Caseys' tummy

Dr. Phil.

 

I have been watching today's segment w/Casey and her want/need for a tummy tuck.  I am 51 years old and have had 4 children (2 of them were 18 months to the day apart in age) and I don't need a tummy tuck.  You need to exercise and take care of your self along the way.   Exercise has been a part of my life since 7th grade and I battle my weight all the time.  I have had to make changes in my life and sacrifices in order to stay in shape and not look like Casey.  My mother-in-law is 86...has had 9 children....and she doesn't have a tummy like Casey's, in fact, she has a flat tummy right now.

 

But because of her lack of exercise etc....she now probably needs one to get all the skin back in place.  Question is...Will she stay in shape to keep from it happening again?

 

Sad in Wyoming

 

 

 
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July 11, 2007, 2:59 pm PDT

The Boy's

O my gosh!!! I can't believe what I just saw........I have a 9 year old son that has this same problem! We have taken him to the Dr's so many times and all they say is that he is lazy and we need to force him to go to the toilet. Meanwhile when my son is on the toilet NOTHING comes out! I have done everything from suppositories to fiber, stool softeners and even an enema! It is so good to hear that I am not the only one that suffers from this and it is actually a medical problem. I find my husband and I are at odds with this, but it sure is nice to know I AM RIGHT there is something wrong.

I look forward to getting some advice and if anyone else has ANY suggestions please feel free.

Monique

 
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July 11, 2007, 3:07 pm PDT

Nice to met you

Quote From: dandylioness

I have been so sad as I have read the critical comments about the parents of the two boys with encaprisis.  Obviously you have not had the misfortune of having children with medical problems that are distasteful to others.

 

This is a definite and real problem for some children.  They often no longer recognize the feeling of needing to go, or they always feel like they need to go but can't and when there is a constant smell, they don't recognize it.

 

My son had this problem as well.  We actually gave him heavy doses of laxative which caused further problems because now he didn't have control at all.  He was prescribed 3x's the adult dosage.   Students were so mean as well as some adults.  This has caused other problems for him throughout his life.  Yes, we got it under control, but it took a lot of work and continued love and support of the child.

 

To the parents:  I pray that you have a support system that uplifts you as well.  When these kinds of problems happen you are probably questioning yourself.  Keep looking for help and follow the advice given.  Also, food can definitely cause problems and thus by changing what food is consumed you can help to solve the problem. 

 

Children are so special but easily destroyed emotionally.  Please look for the solutions that will uplift these children.  Solve the problem but leave them feeling they are important and have value.

I posted a message in regards to the 2 boys and am in the process of reading I am sooooooooo pleased to hear there are other ppl with the same issues! I am trying hard with my husband to help our 9 year old and look forward to having a sucessful ending like yours. Thank you for being so understanding.
 
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July 11, 2007, 3:11 pm PDT

Todays show 7/11/07

I have always wanted to know if I will be able to get rid of this extra stomiach by excercising. Now I know I can't. My husband and I have a lot to talk about, since he feels he know everything and he believes if I excercise I can loose the EXTRA stomach. I am very self concious about my mid section and he knows this. He say he don't care because he is going to love me anyway. But to me I feel he is satisfied but I am not. I want to look hot, I want to be able to put on a bathing suite or a sexy nighty and be ok with the way it look. Oh well, I hope he not only listen but truely understand what I am feeling.

 
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July 11, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

A little compassion goes a long way

I am suprised that the people posting comments arent a little more compassionate especially if they are parents themselves. These boys don't need to be shunned and bashed. They need support and understanding just like anyone would with any type of medical condition. FYI-this is also hereditary and it could happen to anyone of any age and/or their kids.

 

I suffered from enocopresis when I was young. Back then they didn't know much about it. The doctor prescribed 6 tablespoons of Milk of Magnesia twice a day (which is now considered an overdose) and daily enemas. That traumatized me even more. This condition was caused by the stress occurring in my family at the time. I outgrew it (I think) at the age of 7. I now have 2 boys who were both inflicted with it. I was told that I should hospitalize my oldest, stick an NG tube down his throat, flush him out and do a colonoscopy. My gut feeling said NO WAY am I going to traumatize him more. I tried the rewards, punishments, nasty tasting laxatives- nothing worked except a $2.00 bottle of Mineral Oil mixed in his juice. Retraining doesn't happen overnight. Doctors say that it takes about a year to heal the body and mind and retrain the bowel.  Also after he started his "Oil Therapy" if he had an accident, he was to wash his underwear out before it went into the laundry. He was rewarded at the end of the week if there werent any accidents throughout the week. The ulitimate reward was the confidence that grew within him. It reoccurred in him everytime there came a stressful time in his young life-my marriage, my divorce and moving. This can reoccur.

 

My youngest boy realized quickly after being potty trained that it  can hurt to poop. On one of his checkups I mentioned it to his doctor who quickly prescribed Mirlax. It's an odorless, tasteless stool softener that makes the stool about the consistancy of mashed potatoes. It's then that the brain can be retrained to think that it doesn't hurt.

 

My boys are confident, bright, beautiful, intelligent 6 and 11 year olds who are active in all sports and have high self-esteem. If I had not been patient and understanding and active in their medical condition, I don't think that they would have turned out that way. I also had the support of teachers and friends who were willing to listen to me educate them about this condition.

 

I hope that the boys in the segment follow through with their medical treatment and if the parents would like SUPPORT in their quest, they can contact me. I won't call them names or ridicule them like so many of you are. Maybe your children are inflicted with a condition that others don't understand. Wouldn't you like a little understanding? REMEMBER: DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU!!!!

 

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July 11, 2007, 3:14 pm PDT

What's up, doc?

I love your show, however, I feel today you were a little irresponsible.  You spoke about all the good a tummy tuck can do but failed to mention the risks.  I know someone who had a tummy tuck.  The surgery went great.  Unfortunately, when she came home, she died of a pulmonary embolism and left four kids without a mom.  All just so she could look better in jeans.  I realize the risk might be small but it is very real and should be mentioned when talking about a surgery that is mostly for cosmetic reasons.
 
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July 11, 2007, 3:15 pm PDT

You have just had the wrong Dr.

Quote From: wavdancr

Medical doctors are so quick to push pills on everyone I know AND they don't listen, really listen, to us anymore. Their paperwork matters more than we do!

How can these "first, do no harm" doctors charge people several day's pay just for a few medical tests and an office visit?? We are not rich, too many Americans don't have any insurance ... how can doctors do this to us and still claim they are "first, doing no harm??"

When a friend started going through menopause her medical doctor wouldn't listen to her talking about all the breast cancer in her family, just tried to get her prescribed in some hormones and an antidepressant. Fortunately we knew a good alternative doctor who got her through this with herbs, dietary changes and got her with a good therapist... she's doing better than she has been for years!

Another friend's mom had medical issues and her doctor kept telling her it was arthritis, or gastric problems, or etc. It was bladder cancer that the quack didn't catch and now this dear woman is DEAD!!

Doctors treat us like cattle to be processed, not like human beings deserving of their time, attention and RESPECT!! If they want us to feel we can trust them, they darn well better start earning our trust and respect by first, doing NO harm!

As a future Doctor, this post upsets and scares me.  First of all, if your Dr. is not listening to what you are saying, then you need to find another Dr.  The health history is one of the most important factors in making a diagnosis.  My response to you is to try an Osteopathic Physician.  Not only are they trained the same as MD, but they are also trained in Osteopathic Manipulative Therapy (a type of therapy similar to Physical therapy and chiropractic care that involves no medications and can often aleviate aches and pains without medication).  Along with the training listed above, Osteopathic training specifically focuses on patient centered care and the natural balance of the human body.  Osteopathic Physicians (DO's) can do anything a regular MD can do including surgery, prescriptions, etc.  Many people may already be seeing a DO and just dont know it.  If you would like to learn more about Osteopathic Physicians, check out the American Osteopathic Association Website at : www.osteopathic.org

  As far as the charges for office visits, I do agree that they are expensive from your perspective.  From our perspective, after paying $400,000 to go to medical school you have to have a way to afford your student loan bills.  I think the solution is for the government to find a way to help medical students get through school while initiating some new healthcare assistance.  I know that when I graduate I will be paying $4000 a month in student loans, even during my residency when I will only make $37,000 a year.  Many students have to defer these loans during residency which allows them to grow to half a million dollars by the time they get their first real paycheck.  Im not saying anyone should feel sorry for us, because we made a choice.  I just wish people would understand that I have invested nearly half a million dollars in my education just so that I can serve my community as a physician.  I understand that there are HUGE problems in the healthcare system.  Half of the reason office visits are getting so expensive is because so many people dont have insurance and dont pay for thier visits.  When you work out of your own office and half of your patients have no insurance and dont pay, you cant afford to stay in practice.

   My last comment in this post is that I am totally stunned that a physician and Dr. Phil would go on national television and call a post pregnancy belly a "medical problem".  Hundreds and hundreds of us live with this every day.  We all would love to go and have it surgically removed, but there are more important things in life.  I realize that some people are uncomfortable with their bodies and if you have tons of extra money lying around, then go for it.  But I was really offended that they made a father of 4 who worked hard to support his family feel like a bad person cause he wouldnt pay $8000 for his wife to have a tummy tuck.  I come from a huge family, and I know that $ 8000 could mean years of family vacations cancelled.  It is nice that Dr. Phil paid for this woman, but I have to agree with the husband, it is not a necessary procedure, and if you are on a tight budget or have 4 kids, I think the money could be better spent.  A heart transplant is necessary, a mastectomy for a breast cancer is necessary, a tummy tuck is NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY.

 
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