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Have you ever wanted to talk to your doctor about pressing medical concerns, but were too afraid to speak up? Today, four physicians with four different specialties return to bust medical myths and teach you things you never knew about your body. First up, 45-year-old Pamela has a paralyzing fear of physicians. She was diagnosed with a terminal lung disease six years ago and hasn't set foot in a doctor's office since. Find out what happens when Dr. Phil creates a makeshift exam room backstage! Then, Denise and her husband, Steve, have been trying to get pregnant for three years. Steve says he’s tired of sex being a business deal, but Denise desperately wants a baby. Should she keep trying to conceive or just move on with her life? And, having four kids wreaked havoc on Casey's body, and now she wants cosmetic surgery. Her husband, Jonathan, says a tummy tuck is too expensive, and thinks Casey can get in shape by doing more sit-ups. See Dr. Phil’s surprise for her! Plus, a couple who say their 9- and 15-year-old sons are still not potty trained! Tell us what you think!

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July 12, 2007, 5:43 am PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: soon2badoc

As a future Doctor, this post upsets and scares me.  First of all, if your Dr. is not listening to what you are saying, then you need to find another Dr.  The health history is one of the most important factors in making a diagnosis.  My response to you is to try an Osteopathic Physician.  Not only are they trained the same as MD, but they are also trained in Osteopathic Manipulative Therapy (a type of therapy similar to Physical therapy and chiropractic care that involves no medications and can often aleviate aches and pains without medication).  Along with the training listed above, Osteopathic training specifically focuses on patient centered care and the natural balance of the human body.  Osteopathic Physicians (DO's) can do anything a regular MD can do including surgery, prescriptions, etc.  Many people may already be seeing a DO and just dont know it.  If you would like to learn more about Osteopathic Physicians, check out the American Osteopathic Association Website at : www.osteopathic.org

  As far as the charges for office visits, I do agree that they are expensive from your perspective.  From our perspective, after paying $400,000 to go to medical school you have to have a way to afford your student loan bills.  I think the solution is for the government to find a way to help medical students get through school while initiating some new healthcare assistance.  I know that when I graduate I will be paying $4000 a month in student loans, even during my residency when I will only make $37,000 a year.  Many students have to defer these loans during residency which allows them to grow to half a million dollars by the time they get their first real paycheck.  Im not saying anyone should feel sorry for us, because we made a choice.  I just wish people would understand that I have invested nearly half a million dollars in my education just so that I can serve my community as a physician.  I understand that there are HUGE problems in the healthcare system.  Half of the reason office visits are getting so expensive is because so many people dont have insurance and dont pay for thier visits.  When you work out of your own office and half of your patients have no insurance and dont pay, you cant afford to stay in practice.

   My last comment in this post is that I am totally stunned that a physician and Dr. Phil would go on national television and call a post pregnancy belly a "medical problem".  Hundreds and hundreds of us live with this every day.  We all would love to go and have it surgically removed, but there are more important things in life.  I realize that some people are uncomfortable with their bodies and if you have tons of extra money lying around, then go for it.  But I was really offended that they made a father of 4 who worked hard to support his family feel like a bad person cause he wouldnt pay $8000 for his wife to have a tummy tuck.  I come from a huge family, and I know that $ 8000 could mean years of family vacations cancelled.  It is nice that Dr. Phil paid for this woman, but I have to agree with the husband, it is not a necessary procedure, and if you are on a tight budget or have 4 kids, I think the money could be better spent.  A heart transplant is necessary, a mastectomy for a breast cancer is necessary, a tummy tuck is NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY.

My own (new to me) physician is an osteopath, and I love HER! She treats my overall health, and addresses my specific issues, which are many and varied. And after validating for herself (there was already the proof in my pages upon pages of medical records) that I have a bona fide problem, didn't hesitate to write out what was necessary to make me as functional as I can get.

Re: office visits being expensive. Yes, you've got exorbitant college loans to pay off. What happens after those are paid? I don't see ANY physicians living a modest lifestyle. NONE. They all live well above and beyond what most of us can afford. Off the backs off sick and chronically ill people. They don't lower those fees once the bills are paid, do they? I have yet seen one that does. And $75 for JUST the office visit (not counting lab, x-rays, etc.) is expensive by anyone's perspective. That's one fourth of *some* people's weekly pay. With the advent of triple booking, that racks up to a chunk of change for the physician...and less time spent with the patient. It gets to where you feel as though you're being herded in and out like chattle. The "average Joe" can't AFFORD medical  insurance. Other necessities (like electricity, water, food, etc. GAS) take precedence. Go figure.....

I would think that those with the excess tummy...the "apron", I call it...who are dealing with the sores, the smell, the BACTERIA might think it "medically necessary" to have that tuck. If you think just washing several times a day takes care of the issue, you'd be mistaken. It's like a petri dish underneath there. REAL infection sets in. Sometimes it's not a vanity issue...it becomes a medical one.

 

 
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July 12, 2007, 5:52 am PDT

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How  can you have a woman on the show - that do not work  - out in the "real world" everyday - talking about a "tummy tuck".   Please, give me a break.   Working at home is not the same as working in the "real world" and I am tired of  people saying it is.   Working on jobs you don't like, dealing with people that are hard to get along with,  trying to make a decent living is no picnic.  I would love to have a "tummy tuck", and I work everyday (2 jobs)  in the real world.   Where do I sign up for "TUMMY TUCKS"?  I am tired of hearing about some women crying about things that are not complete (whole) in their little world.

You sound very angry and bitter at your life in the "real world". You're right...working outside of the home ISN'T the same as working AT home. Try dealing with 3 kids under the age of 5, two still in diapers, the temper tantrums, spills, constant cleanup involved, etc. It's nothing short of chaos and pandemonium. You just issued a written slap in the face to every woman who stays at home to care for her children. There are advantages and disadvantages to BOTH situations. Staying at home with the kids isn't the cakewalk you would make it out to be. I suggest you try it sometime, before you slam all the SAHM's of the world.
 
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July 12, 2007, 5:53 am PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: phunnemee

O.K. If one of the kids drop a turd on the floor he darn well should have to pick it up !! This family has really got a very sad problem, but I don't understand why the kids at least don't wash their own dirty clothes. They are old enough. Also clean up the poop themselves. Hopefully they will recieve the help that they need.
Cleaning up their own poop isn't goint to solve the very REAL MEDICAL problem they suffer from. If only it were that easy.....
 
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July 12, 2007, 6:04 am PDT

R U Kidding??? Kids Sh...g in their pants?

Dr. Phil

You missed the boat on this one! As a teacher, I would be appalled that the parents haven't resolved this before sending those kids to school. I agree they most likely have a medical issue, at least they do now. But it didn't start out that way.

If you look closer, which Dr. Phil never addressed, they obviously have eating and exercise issues as well. They eat and sit in front of the TV and the computer. How come Dr. Phil never addressed these issues.

SOLUTION:  Make the kids do their own laundry! That would solve it very quickly. ALSO, using Dr. Phil's own advice, find out what their currency is - video games and TV, and cut them out. NO MORE until they stop. I would also refuse to get them any new clothes, let them where the crap!

COME ONE, Dr. Phil, why didn't you take a hard line with this one???

 
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July 12, 2007, 6:11 am PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: dbmom6

Thank you for your candidness.  I have been dealing with this problem with my son for his entire life.  He has never controlled his bowels.  I have successfully potty trained 5 other children, one of which was a boy.  The show today gave me encouragement for myself and my son.  He does not like what is going on with his bowels but is trying to correct this with our help of course.  It is very difficult to understand what it is like to help a child that has this condition unless you have dealt with it yourself.  We are definitely not abusive or neglectful toward our son.  I have not treated him any differently than my others when he was going through the potty training years.  I am anxious about trying what the doctor shared on the show today.  Yes my son does get teased at school because other children do not understand what is the real issue behind this condition.  However, his true friends support him and overlook "the smell".  We try to give him as much responsibility for his clean up as possible but strongly encourage him to releave himself in the appropriate manner.  It is a work in progress.  Would that all would have the same concern and reaction to my son's condition as his true friends. 
I agree with the statements about understanding the problem and we should all put ourselves in this family's shoes. No one knows what it's like to have this issue unless you do. HOWEVER, make the children responsible. We are living in a society where the parents quickly jump in and take the blame - when the children do anything that is abnormal or wrong. WHY won't anyone put any of the responsibility of these children for this terrible issue. It's not a syndrome, it's a problem that can be resolved, but not by the parents. They know how to use a toilet. The kids must want to do it and should be made a part of the solution. Like I said before, make them do their laundry and I bet it comes to a screeching halt!
 
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July 12, 2007, 6:40 am PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: angelsea0720

In (slight) defense of the author of the message you quoted, they posted it before this particular show ever aired.  Let us hope that they subsequently watched that segment of the program and now have a newly awakened knowledge that a condition such as encopresis exists and some empathy for those who suffer from it and their caregivers.
yes i do smell myself before anyone else smells me, if your funky your funky and you know it before anyone else does, if your underarms smell like onions and you take a wiff you smell it before anyone else does, if in between your legs smells like fish and you sit down to use the toilet you smell it before anyone else does, so if you go to the bathroom on yourself not only do you feel it first but you smell it first too
 
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July 12, 2007, 6:54 am PDT

Blessing from Above

Quote From: momsemi

Please tell the couple who are trying so hard to have a baby they need to relax, quit thinking about getting pregnant, and enjoy themselves.

 

When we were first married 48 years ago, we wanted to have children right away and since it didn't happen immediately, we began to stress about it and do whatever the medical community knew to do back in those days.  It did indeed sort of become a job.  We lived on a farm.  One of the ewes had twin lambs and wouldn't "own" one.  I began feeding it with a bottle, which had to be done on a regular schedule day and night.  Getting pregnant kind of went to the bottom of the list, as this sweet fluffy little orphan was depending on me for it's life.     The lamb gradually began to thrive and one morning as I was bending over to feed it, I noticed I was very nauseated.   This continued to get worse and lo and behold I found out I was pregnant.  My husband thinks feeding the lamb brought  out my maternal instinct.  I think just forgetting about trying so hard was what did the trick.  PS  The lamb lived on to have lambs of it's own.

 

 

Although I was unable to watch the Dr. Phil show, I just want you to know I was at a point where I thought I would never be able to have children, so keep the faith!!!
 
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July 12, 2007, 7:26 am PDT

Thank You Sooo Much

Quote From: capigirl30

I am a mother of a 10 year old who also suffers from encompresis. For years, I thought it was me, that I didn't potty train him right. I have even yelled at him for having "accidents", punished him even grounded him. Let me explain it as best as I can to those who have rushed to judgement and made comments on here about this without even knowing what it is or why it happens.

 

When you have a "normal" bowel movement your sphincters in your anal area are what help keep the Stool in until you feel the urge to go to the bathroom. When children who suffer from encompresis have accidents it is because they, most likely for years have been constipated to where their stool stretches out their anal opening, sphincters and nerves therefore making it impossible for them to feel the need to go, and being able to hold their stool in.

 

They aren't lazy!!!!!!!!! They aren't nasty kids!!!!!!!! There is nothing wrong with them!!!!!!!

 

I have just recently after years and years of my child having "accidents" received some great advice from his new doctor.

 

2x a day, I have to have my son go do his "excercises" (this is what we call them). He has to go to the bathroom and sit on the toilet (for at least 10 min) and PUSH! Where everyone is taught NOT to strain when having a bowel movement Kids with encompresis have to strain so that they can clean themselves out and utimately reduce the size of their anal opening. Eventually their sphincters and nerves will reduce in size. It's amazing too! The size of the stool of one who suffers from encompresis is unbelievable. After only a week of excercises the size of my childs stool reduced also.

 

Now, the rule in our home before he can do ANYTHING is that he has to do his "excercises"

 

I hope this can help someone who has loved ones that suffer from this! Try it! Start doing the "excercises" that I mention above and Trust that you will start to see differences.

 

Best of luck!

 

 

I am working with my son now on this problem but I did not know about the exercise. I will start this today. Any advice is welcomed.
 
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July 12, 2007, 7:31 am PDT

Getting pregnant

Listening to that couples story made me cry because I remember the pain. My husband and I have been there and it looks like we might be going down that road once again. Let me explain:

 

It took dh and I a total of 6 years to have out daughter who is now 18 months old. We went through a lot, including the loss of 1 baby in 2003.

 

The only factor that was against us was dh had low sperm count due to an infection. He had a small surgery to prevent future prostate infections and was on antibiotics. He also did testostrone shots and clomid.

 

I had a total of 4 laprascopies to remove scar tissues (I have endometriosis)

 

I stressed over having a baby, almost like the lady in the show...It was horrible. It's like you don't want to stress over it but you can't help it.

 

I have a 14 year old son from a previous marriage BTW.

 

Anyway it is very heartbreaking trying to get pregnant and you can't. You can't understand it. You see others get pregnant when not even trying, you see others getting pregnant that maybe should not be because of their situation in life, and so on. It's so hard and frustrating

 

I found out that my 19 year old sister was pregnant again and it was very heartbreaking. She didn't want to be pregnant, she was not trying, etc. A week later I found out that I was pregnant too. When I was late I didn't think I'd be pregnant, what were the odds that I'd be pregnant the same time my sister was? Well I was.

 

I now have a beautiful, healthy baby girl. So I hope that the couple reads this and knows there IS hope. I totally agree in calmind down and taking it easy to get pregnant. People ask my dh and I what we did differently, and the answer to that is: nothing. We sort of forgot about the chore of having sex to get pregnant and just had "fun" one night (lol) DH was not on any testostrone shots anymore, nor was he on clomid. During this period of trying to get pregnant my dh lost his job and health insurance, so we thought we were doomed. We would never be able to get pregnant. One of the most disturbing things was being told "If you get pregnant we can give you medical coverage" from our State's Assistance office when I applied for medical assistance since my husband lost his job and health insurance. I was crying and said "But I need medical help to GET pregnant" It was very upsetting especially with the fact that dh and I both have worked all of our lives and now we had no help. So yes, basically we thought we were doomed and never would have a baby together.

 

So there's always hope and there's always room for miracles.

 
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July 12, 2007, 7:34 am PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: sissybobo

I went through this with my daughter, with the constipation from birth to age 6, and she saw a doctor regularly since birth, it took my daughter at least twice as long as normal to potty train, she wore pull-ups up to age 5, she was on the laxative until age 6, i sympathize with these people, it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO frustrating, and you feel SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad as a parent every time they get a sore bottom, but you take care of it, and make sure that they are clean so that that they don't get sore and don't get smelly. You make sure they take the laxative every single day, because if you don't and they have a hard bowel it will be painful and will set them back. But i must "judge" as you say.  YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL AGES 9 AND 15 BEFORE SEEING A DOCTOR FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!!!!!!!!

FYI - I have taken my oldest son too many times to count to the doctor for this issue since age three!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Many times I have have simply been blown off by the doctors-they say oh just give him a laxative-just wait-whatever!  If you really have experienced this you would understand that there is not always a quick fix!!!!!

 
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