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Have you ever wanted to talk to your doctor about pressing medical concerns, but were too afraid to speak up? Today, four physicians with four different specialties return to bust medical myths and teach you things you never knew about your body. First up, 45-year-old Pamela has a paralyzing fear of physicians. She was diagnosed with a terminal lung disease six years ago and hasn't set foot in a doctor's office since. Find out what happens when Dr. Phil creates a makeshift exam room backstage! Then, Denise and her husband, Steve, have been trying to get pregnant for three years. Steve says he’s tired of sex being a business deal, but Denise desperately wants a baby. Should she keep trying to conceive or just move on with her life? And, having four kids wreaked havoc on Casey's body, and now she wants cosmetic surgery. Her husband, Jonathan, says a tummy tuck is too expensive, and thinks Casey can get in shape by doing more sit-ups. See Dr. Phil’s surprise for her! Plus, a couple who say their 9- and 15-year-old sons are still not potty trained! Tell us what you think!

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July 12, 2007, 2:50 pm PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

 "in the taping one of the boy's said that he doesn't like using the public bathrooms in school so while he is in school he holds it."

Will everyone read this like please? The child has the ability to hold his BM. this is not an issue.
If he can hold it so he doesnt have to use the public bathroom, then it is not  a difficult thing to understand that he caan hold it at home, or wherever he is. Obviously, he DOES have some sense of when a BM is on its way.
maybe this is a medical problem but I do not belive this kid has it. Sorry.

commeents saying "do you think they LIKE pooping their pants"?? I have to reply with some frank adult talk....
Perhaps they do, there are people who not only enjoy the feeling smell and sensation but also find it erotic and pleasurable.
Yup, these folks need help, but the help is needed upstairs not downstairs.

My opinion is to represent this disorder, the wrong chidre were chosen.

they can hold it when they dont like the public toilet, logic say "you can learn to control it anywhere".

what this piece had perhaps done is to cast a poor light on people who really do have a real condition.

If you sit in your own filth, till you are raw and bloody, and someone has to force you to go clean yourself, I am sorry this is a mental disorder.

For these boys, perhaps not for many others. These boys do not grasp the concept of "ssocial acceptability" when it comes to personal hygene.

By their own admission, they can hold it. If you can hold it, you can feel it. if you can feel it, you can train your body and mind to go to the toilet normally.

The wrong kids were chosen to represent this medical problem.  No sane person doesnt react when they have a load in their pants or notice they are soiled..... a normal reacttion is to clean oneself, and quickly.

The idea, that they do not make these boys wear adult diapers but rather allow then to spread feces all over their clothes and the house is unacceptable behavior.

They admit the can hold it..... game over. if you can choose when to hold it and not to hold it, and you choose to selectivly cut loose where "you are comfortable" congratualtions you just qualified for a mental disorder lable.

If they were homeless street kids, would they hold it in till they popped like a ripe tick because there was no other choice but a public bathroom?

Apply some logic to this one, and it screams BS, not BM.

I do believe there is a validd medical condition that makes one not able to control their bowels.... I really do. These 2 boys dont have it.

why?

they chose to hold it in lieu of using a public batthroom, and then cut loose in their pants at home, or other comfort zones.

game over kids.



 
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July 12, 2007, 3:15 pm PDT

Toilet Training Problem

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Yuck!  We always assumed those really stinky kids (in high school special education classes) - fewer than one every five years - were just dirty or had poor hygiene.  We never guessed this could be the cause.  If those kids don't have a documented physical problem and past help, those parents are among the most abusive I've ever heard of.
You should not talk about something you know nothing about!  I have 3 girls and my middle one has the same problem.  She is 6 now and we have been dealing with this for over 3 years.  How dare you call the parents abusive!  You do not know what emotional and physical problems the whole family goes through.  It took 3 years to get a diagnosis on her problem.  Well now that we have it we have to undo what those 3 years have done to her colon.  How can you say that we need a documented physical problem when the doctors take that long to diagnosis the problem.  I would also like to say that the only reason it was ultimately diagnosed was that I was feeling at a dead end and begged my doctor for something, some hope.  He then sent me to a colon specialist.  He finally gave me the diagnosis.  I feel like it will never end.  I am very thankful that we have friends that are very understanding and supportive and not people like you that are so judgmental surrounding our family.
 
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July 12, 2007, 3:17 pm PDT

It's not a potty training problem

 This is a medical problem like the Dr. said. These kids do not feel the urge to have bowel movements. Their intestines stretch after chronic constipation and they don't feel anything. Then they leak, the liquid feces just seeps out around the hard stool that is present. This is not easy for the kids and they most certainly do not do this by choice. A little compassion is what they need.
Before anyone judges the parents, get educated, ignorance is a huge disservice to we as people.
 
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July 12, 2007, 3:23 pm PDT

Medical Insurance

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Most of my doctors are in their 40's and 50's - presumably they've got a handle on those student loan payments by now.  We're not paying all that money out for co-pays and deductables (after the insurance premiums of HUNDREDS of dollars a month PER employee - add that one up,) we're paying all of that money to prop up a for-profit healthcare system that - it turns out - seems more devoted to the bottom line than to the well-being of a nation.  My son has a rare genetic disorder and let me tell you - here's a dose of reality - I've been told by doctors over and over again that they won't prescribe needed physical therapy for him because they can't "justify it to the insurance company."  They either didn't bother to research his condtion (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome type III) or they are really, actively attempting to keep costs down by denying needed care. No kidding, no lie. Healthcare in America has changed - taken a dark turn that puts shareholders and profits above the needs of human beings and so far the medical community has done nothing but aid and abet the situation for their own personal gain.

I also want to say this - I found the way the woman with the doctor phobia was treated was really shabby - big deal the doctor looked like a lifesize Ken Doll  - how demeaning to this woman and her very real fears. I just couldn't even finish. I have to say - I understood her very well. It's not that she doesn't trust doctors - she doesn't trust the industry - and she's absolutely correct not to trust the current medical establishment . Not as far as she could throw 'em, soaking wet.

I could be all washed up on this, but then again maybe it's something to take a look at.  First of all, I really feel for those who have absolutely NO medical insurance -- I've been there and ended up going to the ER if I got something like an ear infection because I figured that was my only option, that there was no way I could afford to have a regular physician.  And so for many years I did not get checkups because all of my money went for the other expenses, like rent, heating, clothing, food, transportation to work, etc.  But I was fortunate enough (well, if you want to call having a sick child "fortunate") to have my daughter with leukemia determined to have what they called a "presumptive disability" (note that she is now no longer considered disabled because her leukemia has been in remission for 13 years).  She received SSI (of course, this is also dependent upon the level of the household income), but more importantly, she received Medical Assistance, and this was in addition to insurance she had through her father's employment.  I was extremely fortunate that the MA covered everything that the "regular" insurance did not.  This is even more of a Godsend for those who have no other insurance coverage.

 

I believe things may be a little different these days (and am sure they vary some from state to state), but my 10 year old son is now considered disabled (Asperger's Syndrome -- and I'm not sure at what point, if any, he might no longer be considered disabled) and eligible for medical assistance and SSI.  I've heard about many parents of children with Autism Spectrum Disorders (of which Asperger's is one) how angry they are that their own insurance will not cover any treatment for their children's disorders and that they are forced to have the MA in order to have it covered (unless they pay out of their own pockets).  There may have been passed recently (in PA, anyway, where I am) something that would require premium payments toward this coverage if income levels exceeded a certain amount, but it is probably still better than having no coverage at all (if so, it hasn't affected my family yet, but I suppose if we are still low enough income to receive SSI, then we are still eligible to not pay any premiums).

 

If you child is classified as having a disabilty, maybe you could check into his eligibility for medical assistance through your state and whether it would cover services that your own insurance company won't pay for.  I know it's very far from an ideal system, but it's what we have to work with "for now."  No child should have to go without necessary treatment.  This is the ONLY coverage our son has (can't afford the extra it would cost to add him onto husband's insurance through work) but we've been able to get things like physical therapy for him (issues with gross motor skills and fine motor skills), though it was only for a few months.

 
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July 12, 2007, 3:30 pm PDT

Dr. Stork and the viewers are misinformed

 

 

   Hello, I was really upset for Pamela because she was told by Dr. Stork, on national T.V. along with other viewers ,that sarcoidosis goes into remission. That is a total misconception. I have the disease in my lungs and in my central and peripheral nervous systems.

 

The NIH did a two year access study a few years ago, and the report said that it does NOT go into remission. Please see http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/access-2yr.htm

Maybe her lungs are OK now, but the disease will attack somewhere else later. The disease is caused from cwd bacteria that evade the immune system.

 

Pam and every other sarcoidosis sufferer deserves to know about the science behind their disease. Please look at www.marshallprotocol.com. It has saved my life.

 

LeAnne  from Augusta, Ga.

 
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July 12, 2007, 3:52 pm PDT

You gotta be kidding me!!!

I can't believe how insensitive a lot of you people are in regards to those two boys and their bathroom problem.  I in no way feel that they are abusive or lazy.  My son is 7 and has always had this problem.  I was to find that it's not uncommon at all, but something many children deal with.  Granted my son's problem isn't as extreme as these other boys, but it's still a problem.  You try everything to fix it and nothing seems to work.  Even the child is confused, but they don't want to do it either.  I just wish people would step back and be a bit more empathetic when it comes to these types of issues.   
 

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July 12, 2007, 4:05 pm PDT

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It really is frustrating to see the messages that trash my wife and I because we sought out help for our boys.  To be accused of abusing our kids really is way out of line especially since the ones doing the accusing are usually making comments like we need "...a good A** whoopin'" or we "need to have or butts kicked." 

 

After spending countless hours with Dr.'s and counselors , not to mention thousands of dollars for appointments, we get the joy of being trashed by people who have NO CLUE what we have gone through. 

 

Do you honestly think that we went on the show to embarass ourselves and the kids? 

 

When I emailed Dr. Phil about this, the 3rd pediatrician that we had seen told us that they would outgrow the problem.  To my wife and I, that was completely unacceptable.  I figured maybe that someone from the show would email back some links and info to point us in a different direction.  Laxatives and pills, enemas and ignoring the problem (the suggestion of one Dr.) did nothing to help. 

 

When one of shows producers came to our house to interview us for the show, he told us that he thought that the boys were polite and well-adjusted young boys that had a problem that hopefully Dr. Phil could help us with. 

 

I know that I can sleep at night knowing that my wife and I have tried to help the kids get through this.

 

 
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July 12, 2007, 4:33 pm PDT

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I also have Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and am confused.  I have read all that I find on the Internet and in books and I'm still not really any better off.  I think most doctors don't know much about it either.  I'm not sure what surgical procedure you had that the doctor "drilled a hole."  It does sound scary. 

 

I am also still looking for the right treatment.  I hope I won't have to have surgery.  I'm going to see about seeing an endocrinologist...a hormone doctor.  Maybe you can do the same. 

 

And don't be afraid of doctors, they are just people too.  Some would like you to believe that they are better, but they are not.  They are businessmen, looking to make a living.  Having a degree and a license does not make them wise.  If you have not found a doctor you like, keep looking.  It is no different than choosing a restaurant or dry cleaners you like.  Find one that provides excellent customer service to you. 

thank you for repling to my post. and thank you for explaning down to my level.  the Doctors that i have mentioned in my post the Gynecology.  Dr. Sozen. and Dr. El-Mallawany. i like these 2 Doctors. i feel comfertable with them. but the one that i liked the most he went back to turkey. i like the other one too. there's also a Doctor who i like real well here in maine is Dr. Doug Rhoda. he works at the hospital now. he doesn't work at the Dr.'s office anymore. i have a Dr. who i don't care for.  1. when he's talking to me he doesn't look me in the eye when he's talking. he's either looking at the computer screen or he's talking in his recorder. i need a Dr. who will look me in the eye when he's talking. that's the only way that i'll understand what he's saying. when i did have Dr. Doug Rhoda he was the only Dr. except my Gynecology looks me in the eye and talks to me that way. i guess when i go to my Dr. when i have to go i'll have to ask him why that they had to drill a hole. in my  Ovary. well you know what that was near a hip bone. and that hurts. (ouch) i maybe right or wrong but i have over working male homones. go figure
 
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July 12, 2007, 5:06 pm PDT

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Quote From: salabras

I also have Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and am confused.  I have read all that I find on the Internet and in books and I'm still not really any better off.  I think most doctors don't know much about it either.  I'm not sure what surgical procedure you had that the doctor "drilled a hole."  It does sound scary. 

 

I am also still looking for the right treatment.  I hope I won't have to have surgery.  I'm going to see about seeing an endocrinologist...a hormone doctor.  Maybe you can do the same. 

 

And don't be afraid of doctors, they are just people too.  Some would like you to believe that they are better, but they are not.  They are businessmen, looking to make a living.  Having a degree and a license does not make them wise.  If you have not found a doctor you like, keep looking.  It is no different than choosing a restaurant or dry cleaners you like.  Find one that provides excellent customer service to you. 

I was DX with PCOS back in 2000.  I have found that regular OB/GYN's don't know what they should about this syndrome.  If you want the proper care and someone who knows about the syndrome, see an Endo!  I have tried everything medically possible to conceive.  Clomid, FSH hormone treatments, IUI's, and IVF without success, now we are adopting.

Some really good sites for PCOS are: www.soulcysters.com & http://www.pcosupport.org/.

Good luck!

Melissa

San Diego, CA

 
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July 12, 2007, 5:46 pm PDT

What’s Up, Doc?

  Hello Everyone

 

   The Medical Profession is full of Doctors who like to rip people off. It dont matter what the problem is whether your sick, have pains, or whatever. Most Doctors I been to with my problems have not properly diagnosed the problem. Then the doctor gives you some pill or medicine that doesnt work. You go home then take all these pills, and they either dont work or they leave you sick to your stomach...........

   What I hate even more is when your in the doctors office, and he gives you some pill you have a feeling will not work, and then the doctor tells you to come see him again after all the meds are gone. I dont know about other people but I dont have the money, time nor patience to deal with doctors who just want you to keep coming back, so they can prescribe crap that doesn't work. You gotta keep going back pay for office visits and medicine so the doctor can make his money and you cant get well...........

 
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