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Topic : 07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

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Created on : Thursday, July 05, 2007, 02:34:20 pm
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Have you ever wanted to talk to your doctor about pressing medical concerns, but were too afraid to speak up? Today, four physicians with four different specialties return to bust medical myths and teach you things you never knew about your body. First up, 45-year-old Pamela has a paralyzing fear of physicians. She was diagnosed with a terminal lung disease six years ago and hasn't set foot in a doctor's office since. Find out what happens when Dr. Phil creates a makeshift exam room backstage! Then, Denise and her husband, Steve, have been trying to get pregnant for three years. Steve says he’s tired of sex being a business deal, but Denise desperately wants a baby. Should she keep trying to conceive or just move on with her life? And, having four kids wreaked havoc on Casey's body, and now she wants cosmetic surgery. Her husband, Jonathan, says a tummy tuck is too expensive, and thinks Casey can get in shape by doing more sit-ups. See Dr. Phil’s surprise for her! Plus, a couple who say their 9- and 15-year-old sons are still not potty trained! Tell us what you think!

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July 13, 2007, 10:17 am PDT

encopresis

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Yuck!  We always assumed those really stinky kids (in high school special education classes) - fewer than one every five years - were just dirty or had poor hygiene.  We never guessed this could be the cause.  If those kids don't have a documented physical problem and past help, those parents are among the most abusive I've ever heard of.

This is a real condition that many kids have but it can be overcome.  People cannot just assume the kids arent "potty trained" , it is different than that.  It is easy to judge if you do not have personal experience with this.  Become educated before making judgement.  I do agree that the parents need to do more to help those boys overcome this.  I only know of younger children (6 and under) who develop this and are afraid to sit on the toilet for some reason that needs to be figured out.  These parents have let this go on way too long and I think maybe a bit of laziness on their part has allowed this to go on. 

 
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July 13, 2007, 10:23 am PDT

encopresis

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It really is frustrating to see the messages that trash my wife and I because we sought out help for our boys.  To be accused of abusing our kids really is way out of line especially since the ones doing the accusing are usually making comments like we need "...a good A** whoopin'" or we "need to have or butts kicked." 

 

After spending countless hours with Dr.'s and counselors , not to mention thousands of dollars for appointments, we get the joy of being trashed by people who have NO CLUE what we have gone through. 

 

Do you honestly think that we went on the show to embarass ourselves and the kids? 

 

When I emailed Dr. Phil about this, the 3rd pediatrician that we had seen told us that they would outgrow the problem.  To my wife and I, that was completely unacceptable.  I figured maybe that someone from the show would email back some links and info to point us in a different direction.  Laxatives and pills, enemas and ignoring the problem (the suggestion of one Dr.) did nothing to help. 

 

When one of shows producers came to our house to interview us for the show, he told us that he thought that the boys were polite and well-adjusted young boys that had a problem that hopefully Dr. Phil could help us with. 

 

I know that I can sleep at night knowing that my wife and I have tried to help the kids get through this.

 

I have a 6 year old with this problem and when your wife was talking I could relate in so many ways.  Buying all the wipes, trying to do anything to get them to sit on the toilet, the dirty laundry, hoping it wouldnt happen at school.  It brought tears to my eyes,  I always think I am not doing enough to help him but I feel helpless.  I am so glad you've brought this condition to the forefront. 
 
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July 13, 2007, 10:47 am PDT

My son

I am appauled to read some of the messages concerning this very delicate subject.  How ignorant can some people be?  Until you have walked in this couple's shoes, who are you to judge?  My son is 9 and is still wearing a pull-up.  He refuses to use the toliet and sometimes doesn't realize he's gone poop.  This has been going on for so long that I can't tell you exactly when it started.  I have taken him to Chidren's Hospital where they performed a go-litely which is basically a 24 hr enima to clean him out.  He got so "backed up" that he wasnt even having regular bowel movements rather just leakage.  After that the Dr.'s put him on laxities and Gycolax to keep his bowels clear.  That lasted for about 3 months and we were back to the same old problem.  I then took him back to Children 's and requested a, and I am going to spell this wrong, barrium enima because I thought may be something was just misfiring.  That test came back negative.  So now that I had gottent the medical questions out of the way, I thought it may be psychological.  He was being treated by 2 different doctors for that.  He has a tendency to shut down and then have these outburst.  He was never diagnosed with this particular problem, but it can only make me wonder if this is not the case. 

 

My sympathy goes out to all the parents struggling with this disorder.  I know too well the emotional drain it can put on someone.  And how frustrating it can be.  Before taking him to the doctors I felt so embarrassed.  He will be in the 4th grade and I am hoping that this is something that will just "go away".  It's a constant struggle to make him sit on the toliet after dinner.  I am a single mother so to have him do it after every meal doesn't happen. 

 

I just wanted to share my story with you. 

 
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July 13, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

pull ups

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I am appauled to read some of the messages concerning this very delicate subject.  How ignorant can some people be?  Until you have walked in this couple's shoes, who are you to judge?  My son is 9 and is still wearing a pull-up.  He refuses to use the toliet and sometimes doesn't realize he's gone poop.  This has been going on for so long that I can't tell you exactly when it started.  I have taken him to Chidren's Hospital where they performed a go-litely which is basically a 24 hr enima to clean him out.  He got so "backed up" that he wasnt even having regular bowel movements rather just leakage.  After that the Dr.'s put him on laxities and Gycolax to keep his bowels clear.  That lasted for about 3 months and we were back to the same old problem.  I then took him back to Children 's and requested a, and I am going to spell this wrong, barrium enima because I thought may be something was just misfiring.  That test came back negative.  So now that I had gottent the medical questions out of the way, I thought it may be psychological.  He was being treated by 2 different doctors for that.  He has a tendency to shut down and then have these outburst.  He was never diagnosed with this particular problem, but it can only make me wonder if this is not the case. 

 

My sympathy goes out to all the parents struggling with this disorder.  I know too well the emotional drain it can put on someone.  And how frustrating it can be.  Before taking him to the doctors I felt so embarrassed.  He will be in the 4th grade and I am hoping that this is something that will just "go away".  It's a constant struggle to make him sit on the toliet after dinner.  I am a single mother so to have him do it after every meal doesn't happen. 

 

I just wanted to share my story with you. 

 

     why dont you but the ones wear it changes tempurature when he pees or poops?

 
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July 13, 2007, 1:41 pm PDT

Just a ??

OK, here are my questions. How come the kids do not clean up the poop on the floor? Why should the mom have to do it? Why can't the oldest boy wash his own clothing? My son is 10 and he has been able to do his own laundry for about a year. Why don't the boys feel the poop stuck on them? How come they can hold it at school, but not at home? Why don' t both boys wear diapers? If they did, who would change them?  How come I feel like my son not cleaning his room is no longer a big deal? OK, answers please.........

 

 
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July 13, 2007, 2:06 pm PDT

THANKS for your story!

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I am appauled to read some of the messages concerning this very delicate subject.  How ignorant can some people be?  Until you have walked in this couple's shoes, who are you to judge?  My son is 9 and is still wearing a pull-up.  He refuses to use the toliet and sometimes doesn't realize he's gone poop.  This has been going on for so long that I can't tell you exactly when it started.  I have taken him to Chidren's Hospital where they performed a go-litely which is basically a 24 hr enima to clean him out.  He got so "backed up" that he wasnt even having regular bowel movements rather just leakage.  After that the Dr.'s put him on laxities and Gycolax to keep his bowels clear.  That lasted for about 3 months and we were back to the same old problem.  I then took him back to Children 's and requested a, and I am going to spell this wrong, barrium enima because I thought may be something was just misfiring.  That test came back negative.  So now that I had gottent the medical questions out of the way, I thought it may be psychological.  He was being treated by 2 different doctors for that.  He has a tendency to shut down and then have these outburst.  He was never diagnosed with this particular problem, but it can only make me wonder if this is not the case. 

 

My sympathy goes out to all the parents struggling with this disorder.  I know too well the emotional drain it can put on someone.  And how frustrating it can be.  Before taking him to the doctors I felt so embarrassed.  He will be in the 4th grade and I am hoping that this is something that will just "go away".  It's a constant struggle to make him sit on the toliet after dinner.  I am a single mother so to have him do it after every meal doesn't happen. 

 

I just wanted to share my story with you. 

I too am so surprised that people can be so cruel to these parents and their children. It's people like those that raise their children to be bullies and make fun of children who are different or experiencing problems. I am so glad these parents decided to share their story.......my best friend has a daughter (6 yrs.) that is having this problems and it has been going on for a year, maybe a little longer. I was so excited to call her and tell her about the show and give her a name for this disorder!! She had never heard of it either and she has seen her pediatrician several times with her concerns. Her pediatrician did say that the problem was with the child becoming constipated and then numb to the feeling of needing to go to the bathroom. To put her on a laxitive and not to shame or make a big deal about it. However, we could never understand how she did not feel or smell the poop in her underwear?? I was still baffled that she has been on this "medicine" for a year with not much of a change. The "medicine" seems to keep her regular but she still has "accidents".  My friend trys to keep her regular but she does have "accidents" still, especially when she spends the night with us or maybe on vacation, etc. I sure wish Dr. Phil and the pediatrician would have given us MORE info. or steps to help with this, like how much fiber, what type of foods are best, etc. AND for all you people out there that think these children were not potty trained because the parents were lazy.....that is NOT true. My friend's daughter was potty trained for 2 years before experiencing the constipation that led to this problem. She has two older children with no "bathroom" problems AT ALL!! We are not lazy or abusive parents--if anything we are very loving and committed moms married to our children's very loving and involved Dads for over 13 years!! And because we are loving parents I hope all of these children improve and get the help they need so they will be spared from the ridicule and cruelty that other children with put upon them!!!
 
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July 13, 2007, 2:26 pm PDT

free tummy tuck

when casey's husband wants that new boat in two months, will we get the pleasure of listening to these two whiners again.  dr phil did not teach them how to handle this conflict, he just gave her what she wanted. 
 
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July 13, 2007, 2:40 pm PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

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I completely agree with you.  My son has been on those same hormone injections just so he would be in the 'normal range'.  Doctors are advocates for that sort of thing but go the other way and you better watch out!  I think Dr. Phil and the producers need to seriously re-think this Dr. Masterson or whatever her name is.  There are numerous other caring and compassionate OB's out there willing to assist and not to apt to judge.

 

Just out of curiosity, is there any hope of future improvement for your child or is this permanent?  I know any good parent would agree with me when I say I would do anything for my child.  And, as hard as it has been, I wouldn't trade one single second to be with my son.  I have devoted my life to his well being and I couldn't be more proud of how he has handled his difficulties.  But, no parent deserves this and shame on anyone who wants to point the finger and judge them for their decisions.  My heart goes out to you! 

Thanks - unfortunately her chromosome abnormality is a birth defect and a life long prognosis.   It has taken me a long time to accept that we cannot fix her problem and need to love her for the beautiful, happy child that she is.  She will hopefully continue to make small gains.  With countless hours of physical therapy and maximum assistance from her physical therapist, my daughter is able to take a few steps.  With her low muscle tone, it is difficult for her to hold herself up properly in order to walk.  That is another reason I'm looking into slowing down her growth - hopefully she can catch up with development like walking.  I agree Dr. Phil needs a new OB for advice.  I didn't like her advise to the infertile couple either.
 
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July 13, 2007, 3:02 pm PDT

ENCOPESIS NOT LACK OF POTTY TRAINING FOLKS!!!

URGH!!!!

  Dr. Phil as I was reading these posts on the board these outsiders do not have a clue!!! My son suffers from the same trauma it is not lack of potty training or lack of being a parent so to speak. It is a condition they have a hard time controlling, because their colon is so small or their body is small.Granted I am so gratefull that my son has not gottten that out of control with it. We are still having issues mind you, but we are not washing clothes three to four times a day. There are times during the school year where I get called in to assist my child in hygiene. I am also grateful that we live in a small town and not the suburbs. I have had my son x-rayed there was nothing out of the ordinary I have taken him to specialists and nothing was wrong except that my son was underweight when he was born. My doctor or our family doctor did suggest though that if it does not get better by next year we are going to have his thyroid checked also. I have hypothyroid.BUT--My son is getting better there are times when he wants to go and sit on the toilet all on his own and I praise him for it. I just hope that after reading some of these posts that these parents are not going through the same thing with their children and are shaming them for it. Shaming and degrading is horrible during potty training. My doctor also said that it is now a common thing with boys more so than girls.I am checking out your links for possible further information.PLEASE DON'T KNOCK THESE PARENTS DOWN ANYMORE IT IS A DISORDER NOT POTTY TRAINING!!!

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July 13, 2007, 3:40 pm PDT

Thank you so much !!

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   Hello, I was really upset for Pamela because she was told by Dr. Stork, on national T.V. along with other viewers ,that sarcoidosis goes into remission. That is a total misconception. I have the disease in my lungs and in my central and peripheral nervous systems.

 

The NIH did a two year access study a few years ago, and the report said that it does NOT go into remission. Please see http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/access-2yr.htm

Maybe her lungs are OK now, but the disease will attack somewhere else later. The disease is caused from cwd bacteria that evade the immune system.

 

Pam and every other sarcoidosis sufferer deserves to know about the science behind their disease. Please look at www.marshallprotocol.com. It has saved my life.

 

LeAnne  from Augusta, Ga.

Thank you LeAnne, I was so upset during and after the show, it means a lot that you understood. I am Pamela, and I couldn't beleive a doctor with nothing more than a stetiscope was telling me my sarcoidosis was in remission. I went on the show to not only get past my fear, but to find out how I REALLY am. I have no idea. In six years I don't know what condition my lungs are in. I did not get the benefit of a specialist, and since I am considered un-insurable due to a pre-existing condition I don't expect I ever will. This show was taped in January and I am no closer to seeing a doctor. I will however check out the website you mentioned, again thank you.
 
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