Topic : Pagan Friends

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Created on : Saturday, July 14, 2007, 07:12:22 pm
Author : Earthymama
Ok well the other pagan board got zapped so I thought that I would make this one....

....Well first off pagan is such a broad term so I am going to use my definition which is all those religions or faith that are non chrisitian, jewish and islam.


We are not people that worship the devil....we just believe differently than others.  I open this board to all those that want to enter.  It is not a place to convert pagans to other faith but a place to come together and learn and talk.


It you would like to ask something than feel free too. 

Thank you and my the mother and father keep you safe.



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February 9, 2008, 7:59 am PST

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Here is some info on ostara

Ostara (Eostre) circa March 21, also known as the Spring or Vernal Equinox, is one of two dates where day and night are equal; a point of balance, after which the forces of light gain power and preeminence over the powers of darkness until it reaches its ultimate at Midsummer.

Deities honored during this festival are those of the maiden goddess and the youthful, warrior god. The sabbat takes its name from Eostra (Ostara), the Goddess of the Dawn, the Saxon Goddess who heralds the triumphant rebirth of the Sun and the return of the greening season. Hellenic traditions celebrate the return of Persephone, Demeter's daughter, from Hades. Some sects see this as the time of courtship between the God and the Goddess, whose relationship will then be consummated at the following sabbat of Beltaine. 


 

When the Catholic Church preempted this rite, as with so many others, it kept the essence of the sabbat, but appropriated its essential properties for Christ. Ostara has always been a rite celebrating the resurrection and restoration of the Sun. The Holy Roman Church simply ascribed the resurrection to Christ, also known as the Son, who is also described in biblical terms as "the Light." Even the way in which "Easter" is arrived at is Pagan in origin, calculated from the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Equinox. That is, of course, unless a full moon falls on that date; at which time, the Easter sabbath falls on the following Sunday. While they were forced by an unchangeable astronomical event into keeping the essential date of the original Pagan Sabbat, it seems that having the Holy Easter Sabbath on a full moon was simply too much for the Church to abide! 


 

Ostara is the beginning of the fertility festivals. Buds begin to push their way through the earth to reach the strengthening sun's light; animals in the wild feel the ancient instinct to breed; the energies of Nature shift subtly from the torpor of Winter to the exuberant activity of Spring. It is a time of new beginnings, of action, of saying goodbye to the old and making room for the new. We can see this urge reflected in our lives even today. We talk of "Spring cleaning" and "In Spring, a young man's fancy turns to..."; the desire to run the greening fields (or, in our world, walk the parks, fish, and other outdoor activities) vies urgently with the obligation of our workday routines, often resulting in "sick leave days" and spur-of-the-moment "personal days" where the real excuse is "Spring Fever." 


 

Symbols of this holiday include eggs, rabbits, and flowers of all kinds. Modern secular activities such as the dying of Easter Eggs are remnants of ancient Pagan traditions. The Anglo-Saxons painted eggs with their hopes and dreams and presented them as a gift to Eostre. These eggs were then buried in the Earth, so that the Earth-Mother would know dreams of her children, in hopes that She would see fit to help them realize their desires. This practice predates Christianity by approximately 1000 years.  


 

Rabbits (hares) were the companions of Eostre, and she is still often pictured with a hare by Her side. Because of their well-acknowledged reproductive ability, they are the perfect compliments to the start of a fertility-based season. 


 

In many cultures, the Goddess was known not only as the Goddess of Fertility, but also as the Goddess of Grain. Therefore, special cakes and breads were baked and given to Her in offering. This tradition remained, long after the original reasons were lost, and we still see people baking special Easter breads and cakes today. 


 

Other foods traditional to this season include those made of seeds, as well as pine nuts. Also, green leafy vegetables and sprouts are equally appropiate. Some groups create special dishes made of flowers, such as stuffed nasturtiums or carnation cupcakes.  


 

Activities appropriate to celebrate the day include those listed above, as well as randomly collecting wildflowers on a walk through the woods, or buying a mixed bouquet from a florist. The flowers you choose will often reveal your inner thoughts and emotions, and their meanings to you can be divined through books, pendulum, and your intuition. 


 

Some groups set the seeds they'll soon be planting within the sacred Circle of their Ostara rituals. In this way, either a special charging ritual can be done for the seeds, or the seeds can simply absorb the energy of the Circle. They can then be planted safely after the next full moon. 


 

Ritual cleaning is often done, though usually in the secular vein today. It seems people are driven by the need to throw open the windows to our homes and force out all the stale, winter air. Many of us clean the house from top to bottom; sweeping every nook and cranny from ceiling to floor; cleaning out cabinets and drawers, and scrubbing them, too. Often, many choose this time of year to change the liners in drawers, or to put away the winter bedding in favor of the lighter-weight summer linen. Heavy winter clothes are washed, folded, and put away and the lighter weight spring and summer clothes find their way into our closets.  


 

This same mundane ritual of household cleaning can be applied to our inner selves, as well. Use Ostara to clean out all the mental cobwebs and to throw away all the old, negative modes of thought. Throw open the doors to your mind, heart, and soul and let the gentle breezes of Ostara breathe new hope and the vigor of youth into your newly awakening life.  


 
I forgot to say I got this from pathofthepagan.com

Thank you guys for great info.
 
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April 24, 2008, 10:05 am PDT

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April 30th -- Beltane
Also known as Roodmas or May Day



Beltane has long been celebrated with feasts and rituals. Beltane means fire of Bel; Belinos being one name for the Sun God, whose coronation feast we now celebrate. As summer begins, weather becomes warmer, and the plant world blossoms, an exuberant mood prevails. In old Celtic traditions it was a time of unabashed sexuality and promiscuity where marriages of a year and a day could be undertaken but it is rarely observed in that manner in modern times.

In the old Celtic times, young people would spend the entire night in the woods "A-Maying," and then dance around the phallic Maypole the next morning. Older married couples were allowed to remove their wedding rings (and the restrictions they imply) for this one night. May morning is a magickal time for wild water (dew, flowing streams, and springs) which is collected and used to bathe in for beauty, or to drink for health.

The Christian religion had only a poor substitute for the life-affirming Maypole -- namely, the death-affirming cross. Hence, in the Christian calendar, this was celebrated as 'Roodmas'. In Germany, it was the feast of Saint Walpurga, or 'Walpurgisnacht'. An alternative date around May 5 (Old Beltane), when the sun reaches 15 degrees Taurus, is sometimes employed by Covens. (Both 'Lady Day' and 'Ostara' are names incorrectly assigned to this holiday by some modern traditions of Wicca.)

Think of the May pole as a focal point of the old English village rituals. Many people would rise at the first light of dawn to go outdoors and gather flowers and branches to decorate their homes. Women traditionally would braid flowers into their hair. Men and women alike would decorate their bodies. Beltane marks the return of vitality, of passion. Ancient Pagan traditions say that Beltane marks the emergence of the young God into manhood. Stirred by the energies at work in nature, he desires the Goddess. They fall in love, lie among the grasses and blossoms, and unite. The Goddess becomes pregnant of the God. To celebrate, a wedding feast, for the God and Goddess must be prepared. Let Them guide you! Breads and cereals are popular. Try oatmeal cakes or cookies sweetened with a dab of honey. Dairy foods are again appropriate...just make a lovely wedding feast and you are sure to enjoy yourself! An early morning walk through a local park or forest could be fun for everyone. Gather up some plants or flowers to display in your home. Mom and daughter could braid their hair, and weave in a few tender blossoms.

Blessed Be!
 
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April 26, 2008, 9:11 am PDT

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Pagan? Witch! She's A Witch!!

Author: Lea [a WitchVox Sponsor]
Posted: April 20th. 2008
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Why is it when you mention the word 'pagan' people freak out? It is something I simply don't understand considering that all current religions stem from that one word. Of course, many will simply not believe that this is true and believe any person who would announce himself or herself as such, well, evil.

Devil worshippers? I think not, pagans as a whole do not even believe in such a deity, they believe that evil comes from the human heart, you either accept it in or you don't. And most pagans... don't.

Must we hide? Yes. Simply put we fear for our lives and those of our families. Especially our children, many choose to follow in our footsteps; however, many do not. We do not drag our children to meditations or rituals; they go if they so choose. We would never force their will and make them participate.

They are allowed to find their own path through life accepting whatever form of spirituality calls to their souls. If it is Christianity, then so be it, that is how we live, work and love. We are happy, normal people with families, careers and the same daily strife that all people experience.

So how is it that people look at me as if I am different?

I am not any different from them. I simply want to live my life the way I see fit without having to adhere to something I simply do not believe in. I believe in life around me, in attempting to live without hurting and judging others regardless of their beliefs. Never would I tell someone they should not be Christian and yet, many tell me that I need saving.

It astounds me that so many have the gall to do so and will not give me the time of day otherwise. They won't even take a minute to get to know me, speak with me about my choices and try to understand why I have chosen so. Why is this? Can they not think for themselves? Are they so trapped in one way of life they cannot even consider there may be many other ways to find joy in their own spiritual beings? And that brings me to this:

WITCH! SHE'S A WITCH!!

Okay, so maybe I am a witch. What is so wrong with that? Wise Woman, I believe is a wonderful thing to be. In tune with yourself, your world and your thoughts and ideas. How evil is that? Amazingly enough it seems perfect to me.

I have suffered, suffer not a witch to live... well, I am beginning to think that maybe that is exactly what many in this world are going for.

Many months ago my husband and I were attacked after an evening out. Protecting me he suffered permanent damage to his right eye and I had a severe concussion. I didn't understand, I wondered why the diamond engagement and wedding bands were still on my hand, why my husband still had his wallet. Recently things began seeping back, dreams that woke me screaming in a cold sweat, flashes and still the headaches plague me. I remember a group of young men following us, I remember them making sneering and nasty comments about my pentacle and myself, devil worshipper, witch, whore; I remember simply saying Blessed Be and then for so long, until recently, I remember nothing.

To remember nothing is a horrible feeling and now I wish I had never remembered. I realize now that they were willing to go through my well-sized very fit husband to get to me; they wanted me seriously hurt or simply dead. And they do it at night, on a dark, lonely downtown street and when they are finished they run like the cowards they are.

There were at least six of them against the two of us, really one of us, my husband. And he was angry with me, blamed me, why did I have to be the person I am, why couldn't I just keep it to myself? Why did I always have to be who I was, could I not just pretend to be someone and something else? That hurt as much or even more than my head did and does to this day. To know that the person you love with all your heart and soul wishes even for one moment that you were someone else.

After being beaten for wearing my pentacle in the open so that others know my spirituality, I am almost certain I should move as far away from civilization as I can and never poke my head back into it again. Living in the middle of a wood with only the trees, sky and creatures as my friends I would never be judged, hated, scoffed at or beaten to the point of a severe concussion.

Telling your children to hate anyone for any reason is not an option. It's no option of mine anyhow, I hope that I am teaching my children to love everyone for the simple fact that they too are here on this planet trying to live in such a harsh world but I want them to see the beauty around them.

To see the love that is there, from the tiniest flower hidden in the beautiful weeds to the grandeur of the sky above them filled with millions of stars and the moon at night. To see every person as basically good even if they don't act as if they are at all times. To remember that their words and actions have a multitude of rippling reactions creating sometimes good and/or bad consequences.

Not being able to get a job because I won't lie about who I am or hide it from the world is simply wrong. Working alongside others who may wear a symbol of their faith without being judged while you may not when you can get that job is sad, unfair and simply wrong.

And yet, again, I begin to believe I simply do not belong in this world. That maybe my family would be better off without me, that they would have the chance to just fit in and be a part of this world without me holding them back because I can not believe what others do. Because I know better, I know that any God or Goddess looking down upon this planet and it's people today is crying, just as I am now, knowing that this is not the way it was meant to be.

Today I am not in tune with myself or anything, I simply do not want to be in this world with those who will not use the mind and free will given them to make a decision based on anything other that fiction.

 

from witchvox.com

 
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April 26, 2008, 7:40 pm PDT

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What is it with people these days and wanting to tell me what I believe and that I don't know what I believe.  ugh.

 

OK i know no one comes here much anymore but I can hope that things pick up.

 
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April 29, 2008, 7:32 am PDT

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What is it with people these days and wanting to tell me what I believe and that I don't know what I believe.  ugh.

 

OK i know no one comes here much anymore but I can hope that things pick up.

Ask and it shall be given.

 

Hi, Charise!

 

I saw this article in my hometown newspaper recently (thanks for the online link) & thought that you & your group might find it interesting -- it deals with Quakers who also practice Pagan rituals.

 

Prof

 

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/aprilweb-only/118-11.0.html

 

 

 
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May 20, 2008, 5:27 pm PDT

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Ok so I don't know how many of you guys are still around.  But I wanted to open up a topic.

How many of you had to deal with a crazy person that attacked you or your family based on your faith?

How many of you have been told you kill people and babies, and that your faith was behind abortions and all the evils in the world?

Have you been asked to prove your faith is just as real as others while yet the person asking is like they don't have to prove it because well they are right?  And asked to prove that the devil isn't behind your faith?

Or to talk about pan and how evil he is because they only know what the christian veiw of him is...or other gods like him?  Have you ever been asked to talk about how evil your Book of Shadows is, been told it holds no power?

And I know many of you probably have been damned to hell for not converting as well I am sorry.

How many of you are still in the broom closet in real life because of people like this?

I hope that there is still a lurker for this board out there and we can get a good and meaningful convo going.

Blessed Be,
Charise
 
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May 21, 2008, 8:17 am PDT

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Quote From: charise820

Ok so I don't know how many of you guys are still around.  But I wanted to open up a topic.

How many of you had to deal with a crazy person that attacked you or your family based on your faith?

How many of you have been told you kill people and babies, and that your faith was behind abortions and all the evils in the world?

Have you been asked to prove your faith is just as real as others while yet the person asking is like they don't have to prove it because well they are right?  And asked to prove that the devil isn't behind your faith?

Or to talk about pan and how evil he is because they only know what the christian veiw of him is...or other gods like him?  Have you ever been asked to talk about how evil your Book of Shadows is, been told it holds no power?

And I know many of you probably have been damned to hell for not converting as well I am sorry.

How many of you are still in the broom closet in real life because of people like this?

I hope that there is still a lurker for this board out there and we can get a good and meaningful convo going.

Blessed Be,
Charise

Hey, Charise.   =)

 

It sounds like you're going through a rough time.  I just wanted to let you know that I have had times when others did not understand my views.  At first, it did bother me....and then I let it keep bothering me.  I have some relatives that still do not understand, including an aunt that used to be a fundamentalist Christian and is now into the Jewish faith.   

 

What I have finally realized is that I cannot make everyone understand, and really, it was too time consuming and I was missing out on the other important things trying to get them to listen.  I finally realized and accepted that some would never understand me.  And that's okay.

 

Take care, Charise and if you want to further discuss this I'll be popping in through out the day.

 

Elf

 

 

 
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May 21, 2008, 8:21 am PDT

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Hey, Charise.   =)

 

It sounds like you're going through a rough time.  I just wanted to let you know that I have had times when others did not understand my views.  At first, it did bother me....and then I let it keep bothering me.  I have some relatives that still do not understand, including an aunt that used to be a fundamentalist Christian and is now into the Jewish faith.   

 

What I have finally realized is that I cannot make everyone understand, and really, it was too time consuming and I was missing out on the other important things trying to get them to listen.  I finally realized and accepted that some would never understand me.  And that's okay.

 

Take care, Charise and if you want to further discuss this I'll be popping in through out the day.

 

Elf

 

 

Thank Elfie I have been through a lot since march with some of this stuff and well I am not letting it get to me.  BUt I would like to share news with you.  we are having another baby in nov. 

And I was thinking about you a lot lately and I am glad to see that you are back.

THanks you words have helped me.
 
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May 21, 2008, 8:24 am PDT

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Thank Elfie I have been through a lot since march with some of this stuff and well I am not letting it get to me.  BUt I would like to share news with you.  we are having another baby in nov. 

And I was thinking about you a lot lately and I am glad to see that you are back.

THanks you words have helped me.

Wow!   Congratulations on the new baby!  I've been thining about babies a lot lately, not that we can have anymore, but I want one of my family members to have one so I have hold one again!

 

 

 
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May 21, 2008, 8:26 am PDT

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Wow!   Congratulations on the new baby!  I've been thining about babies a lot lately, not that we can have anymore, but I want one of my family members to have one so I have hold one again!

 

 

I can understand that.  sadly no family is going to be near me this time.  and it's hard to think about.  also jon will be deploying again before this baby.  But I am hopeing for a girl...I want to name her autumn lily or autumn rose
 

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